New Nintendo hardware on the way?

**Valigarmander** · 02-08-2010, 08:13 PM

Shigeru Miyamoto Discusses New Nintendo Hardware

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After ages of speculation and rumors, Nintendo has finally confirmed that they're developing a new gaming system... sort of. During this year's Annual Japan Media Arts Festival, beloved game designer Shigeru Miyamoto talked up the projects he's currently working on: the next Legend of Zelda for the Wii, some kind of Motion-Plus-enabled game, and Nintendo's next hardware release (via Andriasang).

The Mario creator didn't get down to specifics on the device, but this is still the first real acknowledgement of new hardware by one of the higher-ups at Nintendo. We'll have to wait and see whether he's referring to the rumored Wii HD, a successor to the DS, or something totally unexpected.

Hmmm, interesting. Aside from a successor to the Wii or the DS, I don't really know what it could be. Any thoughts?

Glux · 02-08-2010, 09:48 PM

I've been hearing rumors about this for weeks.

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Originally Posted by Valigarmander

Aside from a successor to the Wii

Oh! Never mind then.

It would be nice to see something other than a Wii2 or DS5.
I'm interested in what they come up with.

Rainbow Dash · 02-08-2010, 09:55 PM

DS5? Haven't there only been 3?

Metal Man · 02-08-2010, 09:56 PM

I think a Wii HD would probably be the best idea at this point, as 1080P is one of the major things lacking. That, and a slightly beefier processor.

They could perhaps also launch it with a non-motion controller as a main option (using Gamecube ports).

Then they could start making inroads on the whole 'mainstream' area while maintaining dominance in 'casual.'

Glux · 02-08-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

DS5? Haven't there only been 3?

DS
DS Lite
DSi
DSiXL (which we already know is coming)

**Valigarmander** · 02-08-2010, 10:06 PM

^ The DSi XL has already been released in Japan, actually.

Rainbow Dash · 02-08-2010, 10:32 PM

Huh, didn't realize they were calling it that. Also it's hardly anything exciting, just a bigger screen and a (supposedly) longer battery life.

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-09-2010, 10:45 AM

Am I the only person who thinks motion controls are harder to use than pushing buttons? I mean, they're cool for a few things here and there and they make my FPS games seriously amazing, but they're not for everything. Relegating extra commands to crap like swinging the nunchuck is functional, but not easy to remember. The Wii is literally the first system where I have a hard time remembering the primary controls for some games. I really hope they resolve this with future releases somehow.

If I were making a Wii game, and I wanted to make it actually user friendly without being really effing obnoxious and jamming an hour of tutorials into the beginning of every game, I would have a quick-reference screen to review controls on-screen live during a game. And another thing the Wii can't do well, is custom control settings. I'm certain I could come up with better control schemes than many devs have bothered to, honestly.

***CaptHayfever*** · 02-09-2010, 01:54 PM

^I don't know about the customization part; I finally took a few minutes to learn the nunchuck-style controls for Brawl, & once I messed with the customization it became really fluid. Admittedly, Brawl has no motion controls.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Panfan · 02-09-2010, 03:18 PM

Yeah the motion control stuff I dig in stuff like The Conduit, CoD, Metroid Prime and sports games, but for RPGs and fighting games i just prefer the GC controller. Though stuff like WarioLand: Shake It! and NSMBWii are good with the sideways control scheme with a little bit of function.

If this is actually new hardware and not just another DS upgrade I'll start saving my money. Maybe Wii Hard Drive Add-On now possible? I ****ing hate saving extra stuff to SD cards.

**Valigarmander** · 02-09-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Out-of-Control Inflatable Gorilla Fire

Am I the only person who thinks motion controls are harder to use than pushing buttons? I mean, they're cool for a few things here and there and they make my FPS games seriously amazing, but they're not for everything. Relegating extra commands to crap like swinging the nunchuck is functional, but not easy to remember. The Wii is literally the first system where I have a hard time remembering the primary controls for some games. I really hope they resolve this with future releases somehow.

Maybe you're just getting old.

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-11-2010, 01:00 AM

What's the matter now? Did your mom forget to pack your lunch?

**Valigarmander** · 02-11-2010, 01:05 AM

Careful when you type, you don't want the arthritis in your aging joints to act up.

ZeldaGirl · 02-11-2010, 01:47 AM

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-11-2010, 07:54 AM

The little ones are so cute when they're sassy.

Hey ZG, did you hear that Val's even in pull-ups, now? He's a big boy.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 02-11-2010, 01:58 PM

I don't think controls should be forced into being Motion Controls or Stylus Controls. Or anything other than what works best. Otherwise, it is just a dead gimmick, which is not something I want to happen, since they both have their uses.

I adapted pretty well to Stylus Controls but there's something of about Motion Controls. I think it might be the controllers themselves, and/or the lack of accurate responses. Mostly the lack of accuracy though. The damn things need more than a Motion Plus or whatever, I'm sure. I need pin-point accuracy.

**Valigarmander** · 02-11-2010, 02:46 PM

^^ And I hear you're going back into them pretty soon.

chibimod3 · 02-11-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

The damn things need more than a Motion Plus or whatever, I'm sure. I need pin-point accuracy.

I have not had a single problem with accuracy on my wii plus motion. It has helped my fps and regular games as well. The reason you don't have pinpoint accuracy is that your hand is twitching and the sensor senses that. It's all about finding that perfect balance with you and your wii mote.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 02-11-2010, 07:58 PM

I haven't actually even tried the Plus, but from what I played with the regular Wii, ther's virtually no accuracy, to the point where it made TP a chore to play.

I'm guessing the Plus can't help much, but I may be surprised.

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-11-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

I haven't actually even tried the Plus, but from what I played with the regular Wii, ther's virtually no accuracy, to the point where it made TP a chore to play.

I'm guessing the Plus can't help much, but I may be surprised.

TP doesn't make intense use of the cursor. I've got no problem playing games like House of the Dead, Umbrella Chronicles, or Red Steel with the Wii remote. It's likely you're having problems because you haven't recalibrated it for your distance or angle from the screen. For games with precision controls, that's very important.

02-11-2010, 01:58 PM	#16
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Children, children... I don't think controls should be forced into being Motion Controls or Stylus Controls. Or anything other than what works best. Otherwise, it is just a dead gimmick, which is not something I want to happen, since they both have their uses. I adapted pretty well to Stylus Controls but there's something of about Motion Controls. I think it might be the controllers themselves, and/or the lack of accurate responses. Mostly the lack of accuracy though. The damn things need more than a Motion Plus or whatever, I'm sure. I need pin-point accuracy.

02-08-2010, 09:55 PM	#3
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,401 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	DS5? Haven't there only been 3?

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Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	I think a Wii HD would probably be the best idea at this point, as 1080P is one of the major things lacking. That, and a slightly beefier processor. They could perhaps also launch it with a non-motion controller as a main option (using Gamecube ports). Then they could start making inroads on the whole 'mainstream' area while maintaining dominance in 'casual.'

02-08-2010, 10:06 PM	#6
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^ The DSi XL has already been released in Japan, actually.

02-08-2010, 10:32 PM	#7
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,401 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	Huh, didn't realize they were calling it that. Also it's hardly anything exciting, just a bigger screen and a (supposedly) longer battery life.

02-09-2010, 10:45 AM	#8
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Am I the only person who thinks motion controls are harder to use than pushing buttons? I mean, they're cool for a few things here and there and they make my FPS games seriously amazing, but they're not for everything. Relegating extra commands to crap like swinging the nunchuck is functional, but not easy to remember. The Wii is literally the first system where I have a hard time remembering the primary controls for some games. I really hope they resolve this with future releases somehow. If I were making a Wii game, and I wanted to make it actually user friendly without being really effing obnoxious and jamming an hour of tutorials into the beginning of every game, I would have a quick-reference screen to review controls on-screen live during a game. And another thing the Wii can't do well, is custom control settings. I'm certain I could come up with better control schemes than many devs have bothered to, honestly.

02-09-2010, 01:54 PM	#9
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^I don't know about the customization part; I finally took a few minutes to learn the nunchuck-style controls for Brawl, & once I messed with the customization it became really fluid. Admittedly, Brawl has no motion controls. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-09-2010, 03:18 PM	#10
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,337 Posts Blog Entries: 15	Yeah the motion control stuff I dig in stuff like The Conduit, CoD, Metroid Prime and sports games, but for RPGs and fighting games i just prefer the GC controller. Though stuff like WarioLand: Shake It! and NSMBWii are good with the sideways control scheme with a little bit of function. If this is actually new hardware and not just another DS upgrade I'll start saving my money. Maybe Wii Hard Drive Add-On now possible? I ****ing hate saving extra stuff to SD cards.

02-11-2010, 01:00 AM	#12
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	What's the matter now? Did your mom forget to pack your lunch?

02-11-2010, 01:05 AM	#13
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Careful when you type, you don't want the arthritis in your aging joints to act up.

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02-11-2010, 07:54 AM	#15
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	The little ones are so cute when they're sassy. Hey ZG, did you hear that Val's even in pull-ups, now? He's a big boy.

02-11-2010, 02:46 PM	#17
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^^ And I hear you're going back into them pretty soon.

02-11-2010, 07:58 PM	#19
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I haven't actually even tried the Plus, but from what I played with the regular Wii, ther's virtually no accuracy, to the point where it made TP a chore to play. I'm guessing the Plus can't help much, but I may be surprised.