Wii's Virtual Console Slipping?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-10-2010, 04:35 AM

I don't really keep up on the releases on Nintendo's systems much anymore, but I didn't realize just how bad things were getting. Could Nintendo really abandon what appears to be easy money? How hard can it be to release at least one title from their giant list of systems available?

What do you guys think about this? Personally, I think Nintendo is complacent, and oddly unbusiness like quite often, especially with news like this. I'm waiting for games I really want and I don't think they'll deliver...

The Decline of the Virtual Console - Wii Feature at IGN

Rainbow Dash · 08-10-2010, 04:38 AM

inevitable
even big N can run out
games aren't infinite

**Valigarmander** · 08-10-2010, 04:38 AM

*shrug*

It takes time to acquire the rights and port the games to the VC. And there's only so many games.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-10-2010, 04:44 AM

What, are you guys serious? Every first-party release for every Nintendo system should be available by now since acquiring the rights to those is virtually non-existant, right? And porting a game shouldn't be this difficult.

They have plenty of games yet to be released and the Wii only has to about 2013 before Wii 2 according to analysts. Get on the ball, srsly.

But geez, looks like Nintendo's fans are as complacent as Nintendo themselves.

**Valigarmander** · 08-10-2010, 04:51 AM

Start a Petition for free at Online Petition Spot

If this is such a travesty, you can create a petition to have Satoru Iwata's fingers cut off.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-10-2010, 05:00 AM

Less a travesty and more a betrayal. It's a selling point of the Wii and they're abandoning it.

And if we take his fingers, how will he continue to pick his nose rather than make sure we get our games? We can't do that.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-10-2010, 05:55 AM

A lot of big title releases are basically a development hell scenario, since the companies that put them out went under and righs were auctioned.

Nintendo likely doesn't port a lot of games simply for merit of putting dev teams on new titles, anyway. Believe or not, the company doesn't have unlimited staff.

I'm not a fan of the VC, anyway. I own almost all of the older Nintendo titles I'm interested in, including ones that will never-in-your-dreams receive a port.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-10-2010, 06:44 AM

Sure, there are issues but nothing they should not be able to work around. How hard could it be to do something extra for the fans, like finish up Star Fox 2 and release that?

Kind of off topic but semi-related, I'm also highly disappointed in the complete and utter lack of GB/GBC/GBA ports on DSiWare as well.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-10-2010, 06:58 AM

Star Fox 2 was finished as Star Fox 64, and revisited in Star Fox Command.

Metal Man · 08-10-2010, 03:28 PM

Additionally, Nintendo's emulation of SEGA Games is based on a flawed, stolen port of one of the early emulators made for PC. The sound is off, something SEGA themselves also fudge up in their own.

In some cases, waiting for them to make it user-friendly is just silly. What they don't care to release you can emulate the old fashioned way anyway.

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-10-2010, 03:53 PM

What are the numbers? That is, how many Ninty-published games aren't on VC yet, & how many 3rd-party? Don't count Mother & Earthbound; we already know what the deal is there.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Valigarmander** · 08-10-2010, 04:26 PM

By my count, there were 74 Nintendo-published games for the NES with 35 currently on the VC in the NA region, 53 Nintendo-published games for the SNES with 17 currently on the VC in the NA region, and 53 Nintendo-published games for the N64 with 18 currently on the VC in the NA region. I don't feel like counting all the third party games.

There seems to be a lot more games currently on the VC in Japan right now, though. And most of the games not on the VC now are crap anyway. Except for Yoshi's Island. I want my Yoshi's Island, damn it.

PK FIRE! · 08-10-2010, 05:16 PM

I want the two that will never make the VC Earthbound and Chrono Trigger, though I have to admit that the VC gives me a chance at plenty of games I never had but wanted. The Castilvainia and Metriod games for example. Add in Wii Ware in geniral and I don't see too many problems with the libriay of availible VC games.

-You stupid dog.

Robotazy · 08-10-2010, 05:20 PM

I can go without VC really.

Complaining about it makes you sound like a 10 year old, since there are much better games coming out in every direction.

Why the hell would you want games from the past? That's going backwards.

Sim Kid · 08-10-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

What, are you guys serious? Every first-party release for every Nintendo system should be available by now since acquiring the rights to those is virtually non-existant, right? And porting a game shouldn't be this difficult.

Mother/Earthbound Zero would like to have a word with you.

Same with all of those companies that are either
a) Bankrupt and were auctioned off
b) Are second party for Microsoft or Sony. (Sony was a developer for Nintendo back in the day. :P)

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-10-2010, 11:20 PM

^^

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Dizzy · 08-10-2010, 11:38 PM

Daw, how cute. You thought Tazy was serious.

I just want SNES MM&B and, if they can aquire the rights, DuckTales.

**Loot** · 08-11-2010, 12:00 AM

I agree. You losers stick with your giant sunglasses and roller skates from the past, I'll be in the future with my 360 and jet pack.

*whoosh*

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-11-2010, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZero

DuckTales.

That's a licensing nightmare. For Capcom to publish, they'd have to get past the Disney juggernaut. For Disney to publish, they'd have to renew rights to Capcom.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-12-2010, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARIOTS OF IRON

Star Fox 2 was finished as Star Fox 64.

Well, although an English version isn't finished, a Japanese one is completed in full, aside from debugging tools. According to Miyamoto, 30% of Star Fox 64 was comprised from elements of Star Fox 2.

So, I'd be pretty pissed if I were a Japanese person.

And, Star Fox Command wasn't too good. It certainly drew from Star Fox 2, but it was also a fairly different game in its own right, especially in regards to controls and story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valigarmander

And most of the games not on the VC now are crap anyway.

I find that hard to believe. By your own numbers, less than half of Nintendo's NES games are released, a mere 17 out of 53 for the SNES, and 18 out of 53 for the N64.

You're telling me that the vast majority of Nintendo's games are crap? I find that difficult to believe. This isn't even counting the complete lack of GB/GBC/GBA games available which I mentioned earlier.

08-10-2010, 04:35 AM	#1
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Wii's Virtual Console Slipping? I don't really keep up on the releases on Nintendo's systems much anymore, but I didn't realize just how bad things were getting. Could Nintendo really abandon what appears to be easy money? How hard can it be to release at least one title from their giant list of systems available? What do you guys think about this? Personally, I think Nintendo is complacent, and oddly unbusiness like quite often, especially with news like this. I'm waiting for games I really want and I don't think they'll deliver... The Decline of the Virtual Console - Wii Feature at IGN

08-10-2010, 06:44 AM	#8
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Sure, there are issues but nothing they should not be able to work around. How hard could it be to do something extra for the fans, like finish up Star Fox 2 and release that? Kind of off topic but semi-related, I'm also highly disappointed in the complete and utter lack of GB/GBC/GBA ports on DSiWare as well. Last edited by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!; 08-11-2010 at 06:48 PM. Reason: Laziness

08-10-2010, 04:38 AM	#2
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,401 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	inevitable even big N can run out games aren't infinite

08-10-2010, 04:38 AM	#3
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	shrug It takes time to acquire the rights and port the games to the VC. And there's only so many games.

08-10-2010, 04:44 AM	#4
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	What, are you guys serious? Every first-party release for every Nintendo system should be available by now since acquiring the rights to those is virtually non-existant, right? And porting a game shouldn't be this difficult. They have plenty of games yet to be released and the Wii only has to about 2013 before Wii 2 according to analysts. Get on the ball, srsly. But geez, looks like Nintendo's fans are as complacent as Nintendo themselves.

08-10-2010, 04:51 AM	#5
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Start a Petition for free at Online Petition Spot If this is such a travesty, you can create a petition to have Satoru Iwata's fingers cut off.

08-10-2010, 05:00 AM	#6
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Less a travesty and more a betrayal. It's a selling point of the Wii and they're abandoning it. And if we take his fingers, how will he continue to pick his nose rather than make sure we get our games? We can't do that.

08-10-2010, 05:55 AM	#7
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	A lot of big title releases are basically a development hell scenario, since the companies that put them out went under and righs were auctioned. Nintendo likely doesn't port a lot of games simply for merit of putting dev teams on new titles, anyway. Believe or not, the company doesn't have unlimited staff. I'm not a fan of the VC, anyway. I own almost all of the older Nintendo titles I'm interested in, including ones that will never-in-your-dreams receive a port.

08-10-2010, 06:58 AM	#9
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Star Fox 2 was finished as Star Fox 64, and revisited in Star Fox Command.

08-10-2010, 03:28 PM	#10
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Additionally, Nintendo's emulation of SEGA Games is based on a flawed, stolen port of one of the early emulators made for PC. The sound is off, something SEGA themselves also fudge up in their own. In some cases, waiting for them to make it user-friendly is just silly. What they don't care to release you can emulate the old fashioned way anyway.

08-10-2010, 03:53 PM	#11
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	What are the numbers? That is, how many Ninty-published games aren't on VC yet, & how many 3rd-party? Don't count Mother & Earthbound; we already know what the deal is there. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

08-10-2010, 04:26 PM	#12
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	By my count, there were 74 Nintendo-published games for the NES with 35 currently on the VC in the NA region, 53 Nintendo-published games for the SNES with 17 currently on the VC in the NA region, and 53 Nintendo-published games for the N64 with 18 currently on the VC in the NA region. I don't feel like counting all the third party games. There seems to be a lot more games currently on the VC in Japan right now, though. And most of the games not on the VC now are crap anyway. Except for Yoshi's Island. I want my Yoshi's Island, damn it.

08-10-2010, 05:16 PM	#13
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	I want the two that will never make the VC Earthbound and Chrono Trigger, though I have to admit that the VC gives me a chance at plenty of games I never had but wanted. The Castilvainia and Metriod games for example. Add in Wii Ware in geniral and I don't see too many problems with the libriay of availible VC games. -You stupid dog.

08-10-2010, 05:20 PM	#14
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	I can go without VC really. Complaining about it makes you sound like a 10 year old, since there are much better games coming out in every direction. Why the hell would you want games from the past? That's going backwards.

08-10-2010, 11:20 PM	#16
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^^ And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

08-10-2010, 11:38 PM	#17
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Daw, how cute. You thought Tazy was serious. I just want SNES MM&B and, if they can aquire the rights, DuckTales.

08-11-2010, 12:00 AM	#18
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	I agree. You losers stick with your giant sunglasses and roller skates from the past, I'll be in the future with my 360 and jet pack. whoosh