Buying an SNES or an N64

The Spark · 08-20-2010, 05:24 PM

I'm completely redoing my room, and I want to make a sort of gaming station. That won't exactly work if you only have a Wii and ps2 to put there, so I'm planning on buying an SNES- rather cheap, with awesome games.
The only problem is: I've never owned one before, and I have no idea of what games I should get for it. What are top ten best games for this system?

Rainbow Dash · 08-20-2010, 05:29 PM

http://www.vgf.com/forums/retro-nint...76-sweeet.html

any of the games in this thread

**Valigarmander** · 08-20-2010, 05:30 PM

http://www.vgf.com/forums/retro-nint...76-sweeet.html

Edit: DAMN IT CHUNKY

The Spark · 08-20-2010, 05:32 PM

Okay, nevermind. You can delete this thread. Wait... SNES or N64?

Rainbow Dash · 08-20-2010, 05:32 PM

e: that thread is for SNES

Redshirt · 08-20-2010, 11:00 PM

Super Mario AllStars

The Spark · 08-21-2010, 12:03 AM

^^I know the thread is. I was asking whether I should get an SNES or N64.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-21-2010, 12:08 AM

SNES for singleplayer. N64 if you want to do a lot of multiplayer. I'd go with the SNES, though, because it's very difficult to get good controllers for the N64. I'm stuck with some very awkward 3rd party ones, because the analog sticks on second-hand controllers can't be trusted.

What kind of games do you like to play the most?

And do you have your own computer? If you do, I would highly suggest trying out an N64 emulator. They're not usually a beginner's level as far as emulators go (the SNES and NES emulators are easily the best), but you can get a brand-new analog controller for the PC and remap the buttons - and since it's a 3D system, you can run games in higher resolution than they were originally made to run, giving you a better experience than the original system can deliver. You also wouldn't have to buy a RAM-expansion pack to play the best later games, which actually tends to cost more than the N64 itself nowadays. On top of that, N64 games aren't as widely traded as SNES games.

Kargath · 08-21-2010, 12:21 AM

Try the Virtual Console on the Wii.

The Spark · 08-21-2010, 12:22 AM

^^I'm planning on playing some multiplayer, but only to a certain extent. I'll also probably be buying everything online because this town doesn't have anything cool anywhere..
The types of games that I enjoy are usually action/adventure games, where you beat the crap out of guys as you progress along a well thought out story. And bad-ass Mario games. Either way.
I'll probably only have about $100 to spend solely on the games.

In response to the emulator- does the processor of your computer have anything to do with the quality in terms of lagginess? All I have a laptop, and I doubt that the games could run smoothly on it if it does.

^I don't have wi-fi, and probably won't for a looooong while. I don't want to wait that long, otherwise I would do that.

Kargath · 08-21-2010, 01:10 AM

I'm pretty sure the Wii has an ethernet port.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-21-2010, 01:18 AM

If your laptop was made in the past 6 years, you should be set. I'd suggest downloading an emulator and a test ROM to see if you can get it running, you don't have to have a controller to run it. If you have problems with a stuttering framerate, try decreasing the resolution to a lower one through the video options. The N64 runs natively lower than 640x480, so you'll still get a crisper image than the N64 even on your laptop's lowest resolution. Setting it to Fullscreen display if it isn't should help your video speed up, as well. The forum at the project64 site should have plenty of info on it if you need a hand.

Check out the emu project64 at Nintendo 64 Emulator - Play N64 games on your Windows PC and once it's installed, make sure video is set to use the DIRECT 3D drivers for best compatibility. I can help you with any questions you have about setting it up if you can't figure it out yourself and don't want to read help docs.

And don't think you're somehow stealing money from Nintendo or something ridiculous by doing this. They don't make money from guys reselling their games on Ebay or through second hand shops, either. If you try it out and don't like it, there's always the resellers like you were thinking of.

If you'd rather play on your TV screen and don't have screen-out jacks like I do on my laptops, you can always try getting your N64 and using a flash cartridge like the one here: the NEO N64 Myth cart SPEC v2 ,in stock now!

Might be hard to find, but it could save you tons of cash.

Metal Man · 08-21-2010, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargath

I'm pretty sure the Wii has an ethernet port.

It doesn't.

Which sucks.

Vgfian · 08-21-2010, 02:04 AM

SNES is great, and so is N64.

Personally I'd suggest SNES, it has great Super Mario All Stars, and Super Mario World, and Yoshi's Island, and Street Fighter II, and Super Mario RPG and X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse, and...

While N64 has Super Mario 64, and The Legend of Zelda OOT, And tLoZ: Majora's Mask, and Conker's Bad Fur Day, Star Fox 64, F-Zero X, and Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 and...

Dang I'm split...

Pretty much I'd suggest looking at some top 100 or so lists for both systems, and choose based on what you think you'll like.

Here are some lists. (Not in any sort of trust order or anything, just the order I found them in)

Top 100 Nintendo 64 Games of All Time - Nintendo 64 Message Board for Nintendo 64 - GameFAQs

top snes games - SNES Message Board for SNES - GameFAQs

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Top SNES Games - Best SNES Video Games - Best SNES Games - Top SNES Video Games

Top Nintendo 64 Games - Best Nintendo 64 Video Games - Best Nintendo 64 Games - Top Nintendo 64 Video Games

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SydLexia.com - The 100 Best SNES Games Ever

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IGN - The Top 25 N64 Games of All Time

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Also, AI, wouldn't they be losing money on games they've released on VC? Though I suppose they don't make a whole lot of money off of those though...

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-21-2010, 02:04 AM

It can do USB networks.

She didn't say she wants those games on the Wii, though. Besides, you don't get a hardcopy. If you're not going to get a hardcopy, just download the software. And Nintendo can't lose money if you weren't going to give it to them in the first place. Selling the software to run on an emulator as the VC does requires very little cost. They've even made back the production costs of those games with their original production runs. Your money is not automatically theirs just because they made a game. They can make additional sales if they can convince people it's worth it to have on their platform. If they wanted to, they could've made the entire Nintendo library available for download, cost included in the initial price of the Wii. They won't, though, because they want to make something for nothing.

The Spark · 08-21-2010, 02:50 AM

I'm still unsure about the whole emulator thing. It'd be cool and I'd be saving money, but then I couldn't go up to my friends and say "Hey, I own a SNES/N64". I'd rather just own the genuine system.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-21-2010, 02:56 AM

So see if you can obtain a flash cart. That way you can play games on it that weren't even released here.

The Spark · 08-21-2010, 02:57 AM

How much would all of this cost me?

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-21-2010, 02:59 AM

Good luck getting controllers that work right, though.

Emulation, free. Only cost is whatever controller you get and your spare time getting it to run and getting ROMs. If you wanted to save more money, you can just get a PS2 controller to USB adapter for use with your PC: Dual PS/PS2 Controller to USB 2.0 PC Joystick Adapter - US$ 5.90
They're $5.90, plus shipping.

N64, usually 20 dollars or more, plus shipping if it's online. Plus 30ish dollars for the memory expansion. Doesn't necessarily include controllers, those are price ranging dependent on the controller and the manufacturer. This site has new ones for $10 each, plus shipping: Nintendo Repair Shop - New N64 Controller (Gray) for Nintendo 64

Games, whatever you win them at in auction plus the usual 5-10 dollars shipping each.

Found the retailer for the Flash cart, probably have to nix the whole "this will be cheaper for you idea" since they're selling it at $199. Unless you want every N64 game ever accessible to you, wouldn't suggest it as a cost saver.

100 dollars is enough to start you up with a system collection, but it will potentially cost more to get original carts in the long run, if you intend on collecting many. You could also try finding the NEO N64 Myth flash cart on Ebay for cheaper, but that might not come with the flash memory it stores games on.

The PC solution would just cost you 5.90 plus shipping for any controller adapters you get, or maybe around 20 to 30 per made-for-PC controllers you get. I've got a wireless 360 controller that's compatible with my PC, which cost a lot for the receiver, but I've also got some controllers that ran about 25ish at Walmart and do everything the 360 controller does (minus analog shoulder axis, and they're on a cord). If your Laptop has an s-video or HDMI jack, or whatever, you could always get an adapter to convert it to whatever your TV takes. I'd suggest having a look at it. Besides, then you can play other emulators etc on your setup on the TV, no additional cost.

Fairlight Excalibur · 08-21-2010, 02:54 PM

If you are intent on showing your system off or having friends over to play multi, you could meet somewhere in the middle. Buy the system of your choice (or both) and find hard copies of good multiplayer games. Then use the emulators for excellent single player games.

I think I can track down my physical n64 and send you a good condition controller on the house, if you decide to get n64 hardware. I would send you the system and the other three controllers, but all that technically belongs to my brother, who would definitely flip out.

The n64 route could get kinda pricey. After buying the system, ram expansion, and three controllers, you will not have much money left to buy the actual games if you are on a $100 budget.

I personally have both systems, plus games and controllers, and they are all in the garage because I use the emulator instead. The same controllers will work for both emulators, although you may need to buy a usb splitter so you can plug in all four controllers.

I have played many games, for both systems, on both the emulators and the physical systems, and I can tell you there is not much difference.

08-20-2010, 05:24 PM	#1
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	Buying an SNES or an N64 I'm completely redoing my room, and I want to make a sort of gaming station. That won't exactly work if you only have a Wii and ps2 to put there, so I'm planning on buying an SNES- rather cheap, with awesome games. The only problem is: I've never owned one before, and I have no idea of what games I should get for it. What are top ten best games for this system? Last edited by Cosmonautical; 08-21-2010 at 12:16 AM.

08-21-2010, 12:08 AM	#8
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	SNES for singleplayer. N64 if you want to do a lot of multiplayer. I'd go with the SNES, though, because it's very difficult to get good controllers for the N64. I'm stuck with some very awkward 3rd party ones, because the analog sticks on second-hand controllers can't be trusted. What kind of games do you like to play the most? And do you have your own computer? If you do, I would highly suggest trying out an N64 emulator. They're not usually a beginner's level as far as emulators go (the SNES and NES emulators are easily the best), but you can get a brand-new analog controller for the PC and remap the buttons - and since it's a 3D system, you can run games in higher resolution than they were originally made to run, giving you a better experience than the original system can deliver. You also wouldn't have to buy a RAM-expansion pack to play the best later games, which actually tends to cost more than the N64 itself nowadays. On top of that, N64 games aren't as widely traded as SNES games. Last edited by Cosmonautical; 08-21-2010 at 12:14 AM.

08-21-2010, 12:22 AM	#10
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	^^I'm planning on playing some multiplayer, but only to a certain extent. I'll also probably be buying everything online because this town doesn't have anything cool anywhere.. The types of games that I enjoy are usually action/adventure games, where you beat the crap out of guys as you progress along a well thought out story. And bad-ass Mario games. Either way. I'll probably only have about $100 to spend solely on the games. In response to the emulator- does the processor of your computer have anything to do with the quality in terms of lagginess? All I have a laptop, and I doubt that the games could run smoothly on it if it does. ^I don't have wi-fi, and probably won't for a looooong while. I don't want to wait that long, otherwise I would do that. Last edited by The Spark; 08-21-2010 at 12:29 AM.

08-21-2010, 02:04 AM	#14
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	SNES is great, and so is N64. Personally I'd suggest SNES, it has great Super Mario All Stars, and Super Mario World, and Yoshi's Island, and Street Fighter II, and Super Mario RPG and X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse, and... While N64 has Super Mario 64, and The Legend of Zelda OOT, And tLoZ: Majora's Mask, and Conker's Bad Fur Day, Star Fox 64, F-Zero X, and Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2 and... Dang I'm split... Pretty much I'd suggest looking at some top 100 or so lists for both systems, and choose based on what you think you'll like. Here are some lists. (Not in any sort of trust order or anything, just the order I found them in) Top 100 Nintendo 64 Games of All Time - Nintendo 64 Message Board for Nintendo 64 - GameFAQs top snes games - SNES Message Board for SNES - GameFAQs -- Top SNES Games - Best SNES Video Games - Best SNES Games - Top SNES Video Games Top Nintendo 64 Games - Best Nintendo 64 Video Games - Best Nintendo 64 Games - Top Nintendo 64 Video Games -- SydLexia.com - The 100 Best SNES Games Ever -- IGN - The Top 25 N64 Games of All Time -- Also, AI, wouldn't they be losing money on games they've released on VC? Though I suppose they don't make a whole lot of money off of those though... Last edited by Vgfian; 08-21-2010 at 02:18 AM.

08-21-2010, 02:04 AM	#15
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	It can do USB networks. She didn't say she wants those games on the Wii, though. Besides, you don't get a hardcopy. If you're not going to get a hardcopy, just download the software. And Nintendo can't lose money if you weren't going to give it to them in the first place. Selling the software to run on an emulator as the VC does requires very little cost. They've even made back the production costs of those games with their original production runs. Your money is not automatically theirs just because they made a game. They can make additional sales if they can convince people it's worth it to have on their platform. If they wanted to, they could've made the entire Nintendo library available for download, cost included in the initial price of the Wii. They won't, though, because they want to make something for nothing. Last edited by Cosmonautical; 08-21-2010 at 02:12 AM.

08-20-2010, 05:29 PM	#2
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08-20-2010, 05:32 PM	#4
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	Okay, nevermind. You can delete this thread. Wait... SNES or N64?

08-20-2010, 11:00 PM	#6
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08-21-2010, 12:03 AM	#7
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	^^I know the thread is. I was asking whether I should get an SNES or N64.

08-21-2010, 12:21 AM	#9
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	Try the Virtual Console on the Wii.

08-21-2010, 01:10 AM	#11
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	I'm pretty sure the Wii has an ethernet port.

08-21-2010, 01:18 AM	#12
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	If your laptop was made in the past 6 years, you should be set. I'd suggest downloading an emulator and a test ROM to see if you can get it running, you don't have to have a controller to run it. If you have problems with a stuttering framerate, try decreasing the resolution to a lower one through the video options. The N64 runs natively lower than 640x480, so you'll still get a crisper image than the N64 even on your laptop's lowest resolution. Setting it to Fullscreen display if it isn't should help your video speed up, as well. The forum at the project64 site should have plenty of info on it if you need a hand. Check out the emu project64 at Nintendo 64 Emulator - Play N64 games on your Windows PC and once it's installed, make sure video is set to use the DIRECT 3D drivers for best compatibility. I can help you with any questions you have about setting it up if you can't figure it out yourself and don't want to read help docs. And don't think you're somehow stealing money from Nintendo or something ridiculous by doing this. They don't make money from guys reselling their games on Ebay or through second hand shops, either. If you try it out and don't like it, there's always the resellers like you were thinking of. If you'd rather play on your TV screen and don't have screen-out jacks like I do on my laptops, you can always try getting your N64 and using a flash cartridge like the one here: the NEO N64 Myth cart SPEC v2 ,in stock now! Might be hard to find, but it could save you tons of cash.

08-21-2010, 02:50 AM	#16
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	I'm still unsure about the whole emulator thing. It'd be cool and I'd be saving money, but then I couldn't go up to my friends and say "Hey, I own a SNES/N64". I'd rather just own the genuine system.

08-21-2010, 02:56 AM	#17
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	So see if you can obtain a flash cart. That way you can play games on it that weren't even released here.

08-21-2010, 02:57 AM	#18
The Spark Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: At the bottom of the shipping address list Gender: Posts: 1,743 Thanks: 156 Thanked 74 Times in 54 Posts	How much would all of this cost me?

08-21-2010, 02:59 AM	#19
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Good luck getting controllers that work right, though. Emulation, free. Only cost is whatever controller you get and your spare time getting it to run and getting ROMs. If you wanted to save more money, you can just get a PS2 controller to USB adapter for use with your PC: Dual PS/PS2 Controller to USB 2.0 PC Joystick Adapter - US$ 5.90 They're $5.90, plus shipping. N64, usually 20 dollars or more, plus shipping if it's online. Plus 30ish dollars for the memory expansion. Doesn't necessarily include controllers, those are price ranging dependent on the controller and the manufacturer. This site has new ones for $10 each, plus shipping: Nintendo Repair Shop - New N64 Controller (Gray) for Nintendo 64 Games, whatever you win them at in auction plus the usual 5-10 dollars shipping each. Found the retailer for the Flash cart, probably have to nix the whole "this will be cheaper for you idea" since they're selling it at $199. Unless you want every N64 game ever accessible to you, wouldn't suggest it as a cost saver. 100 dollars is enough to start you up with a system collection, but it will potentially cost more to get original carts in the long run, if you intend on collecting many. You could also try finding the NEO N64 Myth flash cart on Ebay for cheaper, but that might not come with the flash memory it stores games on. The PC solution would just cost you 5.90 plus shipping for any controller adapters you get, or maybe around 20 to 30 per made-for-PC controllers you get. I've got a wireless 360 controller that's compatible with my PC, which cost a lot for the receiver, but I've also got some controllers that ran about 25ish at Walmart and do everything the 360 controller does (minus analog shoulder axis, and they're on a cord). If your Laptop has an s-video or HDMI jack, or whatever, you could always get an adapter to convert it to whatever your TV takes. I'd suggest having a look at it. Besides, then you can play other emulators etc on your setup on the TV, no additional cost. Last edited by Cosmonautical; 08-21-2010 at 03:18 AM.

08-21-2010, 02:54 PM	#20
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	If you are intent on showing your system off or having friends over to play multi, you could meet somewhere in the middle. Buy the system of your choice (or both) and find hard copies of good multiplayer games. Then use the emulators for excellent single player games. I think I can track down my physical n64 and send you a good condition controller on the house, if you decide to get n64 hardware. I would send you the system and the other three controllers, but all that technically belongs to my brother, who would definitely flip out. The n64 route could get kinda pricey. After buying the system, ram expansion, and three controllers, you will not have much money left to buy the actual games if you are on a $100 budget. I personally have both systems, plus games and controllers, and they are all in the garage because I use the emulator instead. The same controllers will work for both emulators, although you may need to buy a usb splitter so you can plug in all four controllers. I have played many games, for both systems, on both the emulators and the physical systems, and I can tell you there is not much difference.