windows vista - VGF

BLUEDASH2 · 03-24-2007, 03:57 PM

what is your opinion on windows vista better than xp worse

**NintendoNut** · 03-25-2007, 05:37 AM

Don't have it yet. Not sure I plan to get it in the near future if it has as many problems as my friends say it does.

Lurch1982 · 03-25-2007, 04:06 PM

Better than XP by far.

Easier to network, easier to control, better security, better features.

Haven't had any problems with it so far, but I also built my system around it.

MasaFACE · 03-25-2007, 04:38 PM

Runs great, microsoft did something right for once.

Metal Man · 03-26-2007, 03:07 AM

Bloated waste of space. Windows XP x64 can run most of the programs it will and outspeed it. Also, with my innate knowledge of XP, I can probably outmaneuver Vista for quite some time.

Also, I hate the EULA.

Lurch1982 · 03-26-2007, 10:16 AM

Yes, because how dare they make sure that people aren't using cracked versions of Vista and Office, right?

pzirm_wuz_here · 03-26-2007, 05:35 PM

I'll wait a couple years.

Metal Man · 03-28-2007, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch1982

Yes, because how dare they make sure that people aren't using cracked versions of Vista and Office, right?

Nah, I like the part where they can probably shut down your operating system any time, for any reason, or no reason, whatsoever.

I'm all for stopping pirates, on the other hand. Just that I feel it's a bit blunt. They should make it more targeted, in my opinion.

Lurch1982 · 03-28-2007, 02:10 PM

Except they need a reason in order to do so (usually an invalid key or something along those lines).

Granted, if you read EULA, you have massive problems. All of them have provisions screwing the consumer (my personal favorite was Gateway Computers requiring that you have to seek arbitration in PARIS FRANCE for any dispute).

GRENTLEMEN · 03-28-2007, 03:44 PM

My favorite part of any EULA is when I press the "bend-over and take it" button, and it's out of my face.

Windows Vista has some nice concepts, but I couldnt possibly justify a changeover when I need stability more than I need a flashy interface. That, and I need my resources free. Computer hardware hit a big wall, and the improvement in technology has been going so slow since XP came out. I think they should try doing more with less, OS-wise. I don't want it to go to the same places that Macs have gone, with form coming before function, but I don't think the bulky Vista is the answer to anyone's needs. They just needed a new product to sell, as far as I can see.

And does anyone remember Windows 2000? It was XP before XP worked right, basically, but better than Windows ME. The Vista launch reminds me of it, somehow.

Lurch1982 · 03-28-2007, 11:36 PM

Win2000 wass the update to NT, and it wasn't that great for anyone who didn't need the functions of NT (home users basically). ME was total crap and I feel bad for anyone who got slapped with it. 98 Second Edition was vastly superior.

Vista's a huge upgrade. This is on par with comparing 3.1 to 95, or 98 to XP. It basically takes some of the cooler features of XP Media Center, upped them, made the interface better, improved security and networking (and god, is the networking easier to deal with).

Problem is to get any of the cool features (Aero specifically) you need a better than average computer. Generally, anything under a gig of RAM is unusable. I'm using 2 gigs and I'm having no problems with speed.

I don't see any point to rushing out and upgrading though. Office 2007 (specifically Word) is an amazing step up, though the default save setting isn't backwards compatible (you have to save-as and use the Office 97-2003 setting). If you're building a new rig right now (and even then, I'd wait till later on in the summer when Quad-core chips are expected to start dropping in price), you'd be foolish to not build it for Vista.

***Ace Mercury*** · 03-29-2007, 08:18 AM

Yeah, at this point in the computer sales climate, you can get a Vista-capable computer simply because new parts have advanced far enough. I stopped keeping track of hardware for a while, and when I look at it now, it's like you can get an awesomesauce computer for a pittance.

I don't see the huge improvement of Vista over XP, but I haven't used Vista yet. It has been in development for, what, a million years?, so maybe. I don't know why Media Centre is part of an OS, anyways; it should be treated as a free-standing application. I hear security is annoying (we've all heard the "cancel or allow?" jokes). Networking, I have to concede, though. What I really hate is that a non-significant amount of CPU cycles are used to check DRM stuff, how Microsoft has removed value that already existed.

I think Microsoft is beyond stability issues, though. Maybe they've learned their lesson from Windows ME. 98 (of which ME was basically a shell) used a ridiculous shared memory pool, so programs could go off the trolley and seg fault to their heart's content. Interestingly enough, I have legacy software which relies on 98 pointer faults; Final Fantasy VII PC.

Botfly · 04-08-2007, 07:44 PM

Don't plan on upgrading ftr, even if Gate's himself came over to my house and shat out a Vista OS for me to upgrade my PC with.

PadresFN619 · 04-08-2007, 10:36 PM

windows vista sucks
and Xp pro is still the best

keep Xp till vista gets better

**NintendoNut** · 04-19-2007, 05:14 PM

I think I'll wait until we get a new computer in 2-3 years.

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03-24-2007, 03:57 PM	#1
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03-25-2007, 05:37 AM	#2
NintendoNut NinNut Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hold on, I know this..... Gender: Posts: 8,237 Thanks: 63 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts Points: 44,444.02 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 44,444.02 Donate	Don't have it yet. Not sure I plan to get it in the near future if it has as many problems as my friends say it does.

03-25-2007, 04:06 PM	#3
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,117 Thanks: 119 Thanked 187 Times in 121 Posts Points: 25,405.61 Bank: 136,219.57 Total Points: 161,625.18 Donate	Better than XP by far. Easier to network, easier to control, better security, better features. Haven't had any problems with it so far, but I also built my system around it.

03-25-2007, 04:38 PM	#4
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03-26-2007, 03:07 AM	#5
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 6,711 Thanks: 74 Thanked 191 Times in 131 Posts Points: 8,313.01 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,313.01 Donate	Bloated waste of space. Windows XP x64 can run most of the programs it will and outspeed it. Also, with my innate knowledge of XP, I can probably outmaneuver Vista for quite some time. Also, I hate the EULA.

03-26-2007, 10:16 AM	#6
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,117 Thanks: 119 Thanked 187 Times in 121 Posts Points: 25,405.61 Bank: 136,219.57 Total Points: 161,625.18 Donate	Yes, because how dare they make sure that people aren't using cracked versions of Vista and Office, right?

03-26-2007, 05:35 PM	#7
pzirm_wuz_here Senior Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: None of your business. Gender: Posts: 6,740 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 15,900.52 Bank: 1,117.69 Total Points: 17,018.21 Donate	I'll wait a couple years.

03-28-2007, 02:10 PM	#9
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,117 Thanks: 119 Thanked 187 Times in 121 Posts Points: 25,405.61 Bank: 136,219.57 Total Points: 161,625.18 Donate	Except they need a reason in order to do so (usually an invalid key or something along those lines). Granted, if you read EULA, you have massive problems. All of them have provisions screwing the consumer (my personal favorite was Gateway Computers requiring that you have to seek arbitration in PARIS FRANCE for any dispute).

03-28-2007, 11:36 PM	#11
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,117 Thanks: 119 Thanked 187 Times in 121 Posts Points: 25,405.61 Bank: 136,219.57 Total Points: 161,625.18 Donate	Win2000 wass the update to NT, and it wasn't that great for anyone who didn't need the functions of NT (home users basically). ME was total crap and I feel bad for anyone who got slapped with it. 98 Second Edition was vastly superior. Vista's a huge upgrade. This is on par with comparing 3.1 to 95, or 98 to XP. It basically takes some of the cooler features of XP Media Center, upped them, made the interface better, improved security and networking (and god, is the networking easier to deal with). Problem is to get any of the cool features (Aero specifically) you need a better than average computer. Generally, anything under a gig of RAM is unusable. I'm using 2 gigs and I'm having no problems with speed. I don't see any point to rushing out and upgrading though. Office 2007 (specifically Word) is an amazing step up, though the default save setting isn't backwards compatible (you have to save-as and use the Office 97-2003 setting). If you're building a new rig right now (and even then, I'd wait till later on in the summer when Quad-core chips are expected to start dropping in price), you'd be foolish to not build it for Vista.

03-29-2007, 08:18 AM	#12
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 18,950 Thanks: 360 Thanked 1,505 Times in 784 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 98,465.30 Bank: 12,446,091.72 Total Points: 12,544,557.02 Donate	Yeah, at this point in the computer sales climate, you can get a Vista-capable computer simply because new parts have advanced far enough. I stopped keeping track of hardware for a while, and when I look at it now, it's like you can get an awesomesauce computer for a pittance. I don't see the huge improvement of Vista over XP, but I haven't used Vista yet. It has been in development for, what, a million years?, so maybe. I don't know why Media Centre is part of an OS, anyways; it should be treated as a free-standing application. I hear security is annoying (we've all heard the "cancel or allow?" jokes). Networking, I have to concede, though. What I really hate is that a non-significant amount of CPU cycles are used to check DRM stuff, how Microsoft has removed value that already existed. I think Microsoft is beyond stability issues, though. Maybe they've learned their lesson from Windows ME. 98 (of which ME was basically a shell) used a ridiculous shared memory pool, so programs could go off the trolley and seg fault to their heart's content. Interestingly enough, I have legacy software which relies on 98 pointer faults; Final Fantasy VII PC.

04-08-2007, 07:44 PM	#13
Botfly Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Gender: Posts: 102 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 2,458.35 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 2,458.35 Donate	Don't plan on upgrading ftr, even if Gate's himself came over to my house and shat out a Vista OS for me to upgrade my PC with.

04-08-2007, 10:36 PM	#14
PadresFN619 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ESD JR Gender: Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 1,005.25 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,005.25 Donate	windows vista sucks and Xp pro is still the best keep Xp till vista gets better

04-19-2007, 05:14 PM	#15
NintendoNut NinNut Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hold on, I know this..... Gender: Posts: 8,237 Thanks: 63 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts Points: 44,444.02 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 44,444.02 Donate	I think I'll wait until we get a new computer in 2-3 years.