New World of Warcraft Expansion announced - VGF

**NintendoNut** · 08-05-2007, 12:02 PM

World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Looks like the main features are that Blizzard are introducing a Hero class, level cap is increased to 80 and Arthas will be the new end-game boss, equivalent to Illidan in TBC trailer.

Sim Kid · 08-05-2007, 01:04 PM

So how are you going to get to be a Hero Class? 50+ hours of grinding, gold costs in the Vegeta Level for a quest chain that will require a group meaning no one will want to do it after awhile?

MasaFACE · 08-05-2007, 01:16 PM

^ By getting to 80, and doing a chain quest that is about the same difficulty as the Warlock Epic mount quest.

Sim Kid · 08-05-2007, 01:20 PM

(I was kidding -_- )

So in other words, we can expect to see hero classes within a few weeks of launch? Well, so long as it's not exclusive to the lower-percentage by how much crap is required.

It should be soloable IMO, or at least contain a solo-able option that's a longer quest chain than some group option. (Because after awhile, no one will want to run the group-portion like what happened to Dire Maul West and Scholomance)

**NintendoNut** · 08-06-2007, 10:01 AM

It should be made so that people feel truly rewarded after they get it, not every 11 year old should be able to achieve hero class.

Sim Kid · 08-06-2007, 01:59 PM

It's going to be rather hard to balance it so that it's not just accessible to the minority but also not that Hero Classes wind up like Hunters and Paladins, which are at least 65% idiots or people who aren't very good at the class. (I'm certainly not the best paladin, but you really have to be trying to be playing a hunter badly...)

**NintendoNut** · 08-08-2007, 03:17 AM

I would have thought playing Pala can be hard, particularly as a Tankadin. My friend was always harping on about how if he went OOM, that was it.

I play as a hunter, I agree they're easy whilst soloing as it's easy to get the hang of, but it's a tough class to master.

Sim Kid · 08-08-2007, 11:11 AM

That's because most people are used to hunters being the class where you spec Marksmanship, turn Autoshot on, and then go afk.

Lurch1982 · 08-11-2007, 12:28 PM

Death Knights are going to wind up like Night Elf Hunters.

I mean, if they put it on the same level as the epic Warlock mount quest (and that IS a pain in the ass), it'll be rough to get unless you can get a steady group.

Kicker is, if they don't do this right there's going to be servers where most of the active high-levels are death knights.

At least they're going to start you off at a high level so you don't have to grind the useless content, right?

Sim Kid · 08-11-2007, 05:27 PM

^

And there are going to be servers in which there's only one or two groups of Death Knights, and if you want to be a Death Knight after awhile, then your'e out of luck because no one runs the quest anymore, thus not giving any new players a chance. You know what I'm talking about...the 100 or so Wasteland PvP EST servers out there.

**NintendoNut** · 08-19-2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sim Kid

That's because most people are used to hunters being the class where you spec Marksmanship, turn Autoshot on, and then go afk.

Most high level hunters go Beast Mastery now, seeing as they believe it's the best raiding spec. Although I'm yet to see proof of that, as I'm MM and commonly go with another BM hunter to Karazhan (who happens to be my Class Leader) and I ALWAYS out-dps him.

Sim Kid · 08-19-2007, 11:54 AM

You mean "Easy Mode". Beast Mastery really is grinding on Easy Mode. You barely have to hit any buttons while in combat, just move around and tell your pet to attack something or activate Beast Within or whatever it is. (You know, it's actually kind of like playing Final Fantasy XII)

wariovswario · 08-28-2007, 05:39 PM

It is really hard to solo as a hunter without a pet in my opinion. My Tauren Hunter always dies unless I have the support of a pet. I don't think it's fair to put the paladins down as something that everyone can easily use. I have a level 40 blood elf paladin and it's really hard to master it in dungeons.

Going back to the expansion, I'm sure Blizzard will pull off Hero Classes successfully. They wouldn't put in something that is really overpowered and if it does look overpowered they will nerf it down.

08-05-2007, 12:02 PM	#1
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08-05-2007, 01:04 PM	#2
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 32,737.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,237.04 Donate	So how are you going to get to be a Hero Class? 50+ hours of grinding, gold costs in the Vegeta Level for a quest chain that will require a group meaning no one will want to do it after awhile?

08-05-2007, 01:16 PM	#3
MasaFACE Anime & Cartoon Mod Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 1,830 Thanks: 601 Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts Points: 14,680.97 Bank: 6,479.52 Total Points: 21,160.49 Donate	^ By getting to 80, and doing a chain quest that is about the same difficulty as the Warlock Epic mount quest.

08-05-2007, 01:20 PM	#4
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 32,737.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,237.04 Donate	(I was kidding -_- ) So in other words, we can expect to see hero classes within a few weeks of launch? Well, so long as it's not exclusive to the lower-percentage by how much crap is required. It should be soloable IMO, or at least contain a solo-able option that's a longer quest chain than some group option. (Because after awhile, no one will want to run the group-portion like what happened to Dire Maul West and Scholomance)

08-06-2007, 10:01 AM	#5
NintendoNut NinNut Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hold on, I know this..... Gender: Posts: 8,236 Thanks: 63 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts Points: 44,136.46 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 44,136.46 Donate	It should be made so that people feel truly rewarded after they get it, not every 11 year old should be able to achieve hero class.

08-06-2007, 01:59 PM	#6
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 32,737.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,237.04 Donate	It's going to be rather hard to balance it so that it's not just accessible to the minority but also not that Hero Classes wind up like Hunters and Paladins, which are at least 65% idiots or people who aren't very good at the class. (I'm certainly not the best paladin, but you really have to be trying to be playing a hunter badly...)

08-08-2007, 03:17 AM	#7
NintendoNut NinNut Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hold on, I know this..... Gender: Posts: 8,236 Thanks: 63 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts Points: 44,136.46 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 44,136.46 Donate	I would have thought playing Pala can be hard, particularly as a Tankadin. My friend was always harping on about how if he went OOM, that was it. I play as a hunter, I agree they're easy whilst soloing as it's easy to get the hang of, but it's a tough class to master.

08-08-2007, 11:11 AM	#8
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 32,737.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,237.04 Donate	That's because most people are used to hunters being the class where you spec Marksmanship, turn Autoshot on, and then go afk.

08-11-2007, 12:28 PM	#9
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,112 Thanks: 119 Thanked 185 Times in 120 Posts Points: 25,099.72 Bank: 133,548.59 Total Points: 158,648.31 Donate	Death Knights are going to wind up like Night Elf Hunters. I mean, if they put it on the same level as the epic Warlock mount quest (and that IS a pain in the ass), it'll be rough to get unless you can get a steady group. Kicker is, if they don't do this right there's going to be servers where most of the active high-levels are death knights. At least they're going to start you off at a high level so you don't have to grind the useless content, right?

08-11-2007, 05:27 PM	#10
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 32,737.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,237.04 Donate	^ And there are going to be servers in which there's only one or two groups of Death Knights, and if you want to be a Death Knight after awhile, then your'e out of luck because no one runs the quest anymore, thus not giving any new players a chance. You know what I'm talking about...the 100 or so Wasteland PvP EST servers out there.

08-19-2007, 11:54 AM	#12
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 32,737.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 33,237.04 Donate	You mean "Easy Mode". Beast Mastery really is grinding on Easy Mode. You barely have to hit any buttons while in combat, just move around and tell your pet to attack something or activate Beast Within or whatever it is. (You know, it's actually kind of like playing Final Fantasy XII)

08-28-2007, 05:39 PM	#13
wariovswario Don't ban me please. :( Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 4,011 Thanks: 82 Thanked 54 Times in 37 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 391.09 Bank: 416,267.21 Total Points: 416,658.30 Donate	It is really hard to solo as a hunter without a pet in my opinion. My Tauren Hunter always dies unless I have the support of a pet. I don't think it's fair to put the paladins down as something that everyone can easily use. I have a level 40 blood elf paladin and it's really hard to master it in dungeons. Going back to the expansion, I'm sure Blizzard will pull off Hero Classes successfully. They wouldn't put in something that is really overpowered and if it does look overpowered they will nerf it down.