4 gen. bosses are so easy...

PONIES · 08-19-2009, 06:22 AM

i was playing emerald to kill some time, and i completely forgot how easy the 4th gen. is compared to the rest of them, i hope HG SS are somewhat challenging. thats what i want, a challenge

***The Doctor*** · 08-19-2009, 06:33 AM

Surely Emerald is 3rd gen?

R/B/G/Y First Gen
G/S/C Second Gen
Ru/Sa/Em Third Gen
D/P/P Fourth Gen

also HG/SS are remakes of Second Gen, so logically the bosses should be the same on that.

Vgfian · 08-19-2009, 11:39 AM

The challenge really seems to decline through every generation.
I hope that they fix that in the next gen.

**Marchie** · 08-19-2009, 12:09 PM

Really? 4th gen was the hardest, IMO. At least D/P, especially the leet four

**Deku Trii** · 08-19-2009, 12:41 PM

Pearl was harder than Red or Blue, but that's the extent of my experience.

PONIES · 08-19-2009, 02:23 PM

... 2 hours after i post this i get anialated by wake... idk, but diamond and perl seem easierto me, i havent played any other gens for awhile, maybe thats it.

Vgfian · 08-24-2009, 10:43 AM

Eh, the entire game seems to get easier altogether for me, not just the E4. :/

Jailbreaker · 08-24-2009, 01:08 PM

It's because you will have more and more experience fighting in general.

It's not the game, it's you.

Sim Kid · 08-24-2009, 05:53 PM

Wait, you think the 4th generation bosses are the easiest?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

The easiest would be if I could just get one pokemon and then steamroll every boss. Period. In Generation 4, I actually had to use more than one pokemon because gym leaders and the l33t four would mix up their types and secondaries.

Meanwhile Generation 2....you can literally pick a totodile and just steamroll through the entire game. Hell, you can even steamroll through the game with a typhlosion even if you'll hit a few bumps along the way. The l33t four in G/S/C was easily farmable since they were only 40-50, and all you needed was a Feraligatr with ice punch to one-shot Lance. Meanwhile in FR/LG, you get the advanced l33t four after awhile and I hear the l33t four in D/P/Pt become stronger when you farm them.

PONIES · 08-26-2009, 03:27 PM

in platinum, the E4 was even weaker than D/P (lvl wise at least)... and i know about feraligator, that's what i did a lot on G/S/C

jailbreaker might be right, it might just be me...

EDIT: and the E4 in D/P/Pt only get stronger after the national dex

Robotazy · 08-26-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sim Kid

Meanwhile Generation 2....you can literally pick a totodile and just steamroll through the entire game. Hell, you can even steamroll through the game with a typhlosion even if you'll hit a few bumps along the way. The l33t four in G/S/C was easily farmable since they were only 40-50, and all you needed was a Feraligatr with ice punch to one-shot Lance.

I did this with Typlosion.

The actual challenge was Red anyway.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-26-2009, 04:07 PM

All of the games are easy, but G/S/C held the greatest in-game challenge. Red actually beat me down when I first challenged him. Also a very cool battle, my favorite.

But the best way to get a challenge is to play people. If you do things right, the games are just impossibly easy, what with Items, Legendaries and all.

Vgfian · 08-26-2009, 04:33 PM

I remember back when playing Crystal, I got my first Pokemon up to Level 100.
It was Typhlosion.
I remember using nothing but him, and then, nothing but Fire based attacks to power through Brock.

Sim Kid · 08-26-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Waste of Bandwidth

I remember back when playing Crystal, I got my first Pokemon up to Level 100.
It was Typhlosion.
I remember using nothing but him, and then, nothing but Fire based attacks to power through Brock.

And despite getting "It's not very effective", still one-shotting all his pokemon.

Glux · 08-26-2009, 06:37 PM

Gone are the days where you actually had to switch out Pokemon to beat the Gym Leader.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 08-26-2009, 06:45 PM

^ Those days existed? I played through Yellow and always souped up Pikachu to murder Brock with ease. By time he was strong enough to do that, he would just walk right through the game, mostly.

Sim Kid · 08-27-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BoJanglz

Gone are the days where you actually had to switch out Pokemon to beat the Gym Leader.

Errrr I actually had to do that more in generation 4. Maybe once or twice in Generation 3 when they knew to send out the flying-pokemon when you're going through with a Blaziken, or when I didn't know that Sapphire ahd Team Aqua and I so happened to pick Torchic....

Crasher Wake sends out Gyarados!
Sim Kid sends out Luxray.
Luxray uses spark.
Gyarados: X_X
Crasher Wake is about to use Whishcash! Will Sim Kid change pokemon?
Yes. *Sends out Torterra*

Even in R/B/Y, which people consider the most difficult ones (partly cause nobody knew what to expect the first time through anyways), I steamrolled through with only one pokemon.

Vgfian · 08-27-2009, 05:06 PM

Eh, I'm playing through Platinum, and I've had to switch out plenty of times in Game.

Sim Kid's is a prime example of why.

As far as the first games' E4 being harder, I guess they just seem harder because of Level. :/.

Anyway, I haven't played the games in a while...

Metal Man · 08-27-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by espE iz peskE

i was playing emerald to kill some time, and i completely forgot how easy the 4th gen. is compared to the rest of them, i hope HG SS are somewhat challenging. thats what i want, a challenge

Did you, by any chance, start with Infernape?

PONIES · 08-27-2009, 06:42 PM

not on the file, all the fire types are really easy to win with... i like using the grass pokemon, its a lot harder

08-19-2009, 06:22 AM	#1
PONIES Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Griffon village Gender: Posts: 2,508 Thanks: 680 Thanked 54 Times in 45 Posts Blog Entries: 9	4 gen. is so easy... i was playing emerald to kill some time, and i completely forgot how easy the 4th gen. is compared to the rest of them, i hope HG SS are somewhat challenging. thats what i want, a challenge

08-19-2009, 06:33 AM	#2
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Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	The challenge really seems to decline through every generation. I hope that they fix that in the next gen.

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Marchie Pokeman Master since 1999 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wiscaaaaaaaaaaansin/Michigan Gender: Posts: 16,647 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 680 Times in 477 Posts	Really? 4th gen was the hardest, IMO. At least D/P, especially the leet four

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PONIES Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Griffon village Gender: Posts: 2,508 Thanks: 680 Thanked 54 Times in 45 Posts Blog Entries: 9	... 2 hours after i post this i get anialated by wake... idk, but diamond and perl seem easierto me, i havent played any other gens for awhile, maybe thats it.

08-24-2009, 10:43 AM	#7
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	Eh, the entire game seems to get easier altogether for me, not just the E4. :/

08-24-2009, 01:08 PM	#8
Jailbreaker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Not in jail anymore, yay! Gender: Posts: 3,482 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 185 Times in 118 Posts	It's because you will have more and more experience fighting in general. It's not the game, it's you.

08-24-2009, 05:53 PM	#9
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Wait, you think the 4th generation bosses are the easiest? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! The easiest would be if I could just get one pokemon and then steamroll every boss. Period. In Generation 4, I actually had to use more than one pokemon because gym leaders and the l33t four would mix up their types and secondaries. Meanwhile Generation 2....you can literally pick a totodile and just steamroll through the entire game. Hell, you can even steamroll through the game with a typhlosion even if you'll hit a few bumps along the way. The l33t four in G/S/C was easily farmable since they were only 40-50, and all you needed was a Feraligatr with ice punch to one-shot Lance. Meanwhile in FR/LG, you get the advanced l33t four after awhile and I hear the l33t four in D/P/Pt become stronger when you farm them.

08-26-2009, 03:27 PM	#10
PONIES Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Griffon village Gender: Posts: 2,508 Thanks: 680 Thanked 54 Times in 45 Posts Blog Entries: 9	in platinum, the E4 was even weaker than D/P (lvl wise at least)... and i know about feraligator, that's what i did a lot on G/S/C jailbreaker might be right, it might just be me... EDIT: and the E4 in D/P/Pt only get stronger after the national dex

08-26-2009, 04:07 PM	#12
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	All of the games are easy, but G/S/C held the greatest in-game challenge. Red actually beat me down when I first challenged him. Also a very cool battle, my favorite. But the best way to get a challenge is to play people. If you do things right, the games are just impossibly easy, what with Items, Legendaries and all.

08-26-2009, 04:33 PM	#13
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	I remember back when playing Crystal, I got my first Pokemon up to Level 100. It was Typhlosion. I remember using nothing but him, and then, nothing but Fire based attacks to power through Brock.

08-26-2009, 06:37 PM	#15
Glux Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 7,121 Thanks: 647 Thanked 360 Times in 236 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Gone are the days where you actually had to switch out Pokemon to beat the Gym Leader.

08-26-2009, 06:45 PM	#16
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ Those days existed? I played through Yellow and always souped up Pikachu to murder Brock with ease. By time he was strong enough to do that, he would just walk right through the game, mostly.

08-27-2009, 05:06 PM	#18
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	Eh, I'm playing through Platinum, and I've had to switch out plenty of times in Game. Sim Kid's is a prime example of why. As far as the first games' E4 being harder, I guess they just seem harder because of Level. :/. Anyway, I haven't played the games in a while...

08-27-2009, 06:42 PM	#20
PONIES Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Griffon village Gender: Posts: 2,508 Thanks: 680 Thanked 54 Times in 45 Posts Blog Entries: 9	not on the file, all the fire types are really easy to win with... i like using the grass pokemon, its a lot harder