There Is No God - Page 2 - VGF

**NintendoNut** · 06-20-2005, 02:28 PM

Ok, two things.

1) Living in Britain, as Legion would know, drives your tolerance towards the Crazy Frog down highway 0. Rest assured a crusade will be held against him to stop this game from ever being released

2) Stop going all PP&R on us.

GRENTLEMEN · 06-20-2005, 04:59 PM

Yeah, religious discussion is best left to the debate forums. I'm not in for it to try to explain why the literary logic of the average 13 year old Nintendo fan isn't going to challenge the structure of one to zero. Then again, here's likely the only situation you're going to find me behaving myself in the face of similar matters... The PP&R is really just a playground for the worldly disenfrachised.

I'd just like to remind Koga that it's impossible to have less than nothing. The loss of good provides the image of evil. But once there is nothing left to lose, you have simply that. Nothing.

Of course, from an objective standpoint, it would be possible to have an evil being by relative means. But once there is nothing left to oppose, you are without a means to tell that it was ever against anything. This just leaves you with the notion that it is for itself, not in spite of the will of another.

[ June 20, 2005, 05:10 PM: Message edited by: YOU MUST SUCCUMB TO A.I. ]

Koga · 06-20-2005, 06:29 PM

Just because it's an interesting discussion, and since AI directly adressed me: some people believe there is a god, but no devil. That doesn't mean there's no evil. So I think there could be a devil without a god. Purely theoretical of course, since I don't believ either exist.

Anyway, I don't think something 'evil' must have a devil behind it, and I don't think a devil needs a good counterpart per se.

Good and evil is really in the eye of the beholder; I don't think any terrorist thinks he is doing something evil.

[ June 21, 2005, 04:57 AM: Message edited by: Koga ]

Koga · 06-20-2005, 06:29 PM

What the funk: I'm moving this to PP&R. This is hardly related to Nintendo anyway.

ADVENTURE BUS · 06-20-2005, 07:37 PM

Wow, you guys'd be screwed if I were one of those types of Christains who sufficate you in there beliefs.

OcarinaMan · 06-20-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sarcasm's watch is off by 2 minutes:
^God wouldn't do that...

He'd kick BUTT. No swearing. He's God.

You've never read Penny Arcade, have you? [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img]

**Wyborn** · 06-20-2005, 09:19 PM

Winnie the Pooh is an absolute good before you understand what evil is.

Argument over.

GRENTLEMEN · 06-20-2005, 10:24 PM

OMG BIBLE FIGHT!

imported_ · 06-21-2005, 11:44 AM

Nick · 06-21-2005, 03:13 PM

Attention British people:

Please stop supporting CrazyFrog before it gets over here. We already have enough obnoxious cellphone ringer scam commercials that come on every other commercial break and we don't need that obnoxious thing.

Thanks,
A concerned Yank

The Yoshimaster · 06-21-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Koga:
Anyway, we were not talking about God or Satan, but about a god and a devil. Basically what you're saying is, if evil exists, God must exist (skipping a few steps of course). Nice logic, right there.

According to pretty much every RPG out there, the world is always in danger of having only evil and no good.

About the move to the PP+R forum... I personally think this topic is too humorous to be put into this forum, but we'll see how it goes.

Legion · 06-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Honestly, I leave you lot alone for five minutes, and you've already managed to get this into the debate forums? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I have to say, for a topic about Crazy Frog on GBA, you've done pretty well.

Koga · 06-21-2005, 06:34 PM

Lurch, I'm sorry that I have to say that Crazy Frog is outselling the new Coldplay single 4 to 1.

Shine Dude · 06-21-2005, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElfLad:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sarcasm's watch is off by 2 minutes:
Devil and God are extreme opposites. One is holy(God, duh), one is pure sin(Devil, even more duh). In other words, the Devil is the Anti Christ. We can't have an anti something without something...erm...regular.

Besides, if there were a devil, and there weren't any God, we'd have died out a LONG time ago.

Incorrect. God and Satan are NOT extreme opposites. God created Satan and gave him the choice of evil or good. Since God created him, He's more powerful. Basically, according to Christian theology, God is just giving Satan a (relatively) short time for him and his demons to tempt humanity before He shows up at Armageddon and starts kicking *** and taking names. </font>[/quote]Unless you're chinese and belive in buddahs.

Codiekitty · 06-22-2005, 06:24 AM

Going a little bit off topic here.

Remember when we were talking about the AYB fad?

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-22-2005, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The March Of The Black Queen:
Lurch, I'm sorry that I have to say that Crazy Frog is outselling the new Coldplay single 4 to 1.

Why are you sorry? It's not your fault Coldplay stinks.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Koga · 06-22-2005, 06:51 PM

I think Coldplay are one of the few bands of the moment. Also it's the number 2, which would've been number one if it weren't for that bleeding Crazy Frog. And I think any artist deserves to beat a ringtone to the number one spot.

[ June 23, 2005, 09:52 AM: Message edited by: The March Of The Black Queen ]

GRENTLEMEN · 06-22-2005, 08:53 PM

Sounds like the taste over there is pretty frightening. Ring tone songs and Coldplay on the top? Ech.

Dusty · 06-28-2005, 03:34 PM

Coldplay ain't bad, they're just too preachy and trying too hard to be Radiohead.

Erdawn Il Deus · 06-29-2005, 11:35 AM

Yeah, next thing you know they'll have stop-animation music videos. Still, not too bad at all. :0

06-20-2005, 02:28 PM	#21
NintendoNut NinNut Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hold on, I know this..... Gender: Posts: 8,236 Thanks: 63 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts Points: 44,256.46 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 44,256.46 Donate	Ok, two things. 1) Living in Britain, as Legion would know, drives your tolerance towards the Crazy Frog down highway 0. Rest assured a crusade will be held against him to stop this game from ever being released 2) Stop going all PP&R on us.

06-20-2005, 04:59 PM	#22
GRENTLEMEN Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 15,881 Thanks: 456 Thanked 1,151 Times in 628 Posts Points: 6,364.57 Bank: 1,830,360.28 Total Points: 1,836,724.85 Donate	Yeah, religious discussion is best left to the debate forums. I'm not in for it to try to explain why the literary logic of the average 13 year old Nintendo fan isn't going to challenge the structure of one to zero. Then again, here's likely the only situation you're going to find me behaving myself in the face of similar matters... The PP&R is really just a playground for the worldly disenfrachised. I'd just like to remind Koga that it's impossible to have less than nothing. The loss of good provides the image of evil. But once there is nothing left to lose, you have simply that. Nothing. Of course, from an objective standpoint, it would be possible to have an evil being by relative means. But once there is nothing left to oppose, you are without a means to tell that it was ever against anything. This just leaves you with the notion that it is for itself, not in spite of the will of another. [ June 20, 2005, 05:10 PM: Message edited by: YOU MUST SUCCUMB TO A.I. ]

06-20-2005, 06:29 PM	#23
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 176 Times in 118 Posts Points: 104,306.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 122,058.82 Donate	Just because it's an interesting discussion, and since AI directly adressed me: some people believe there is a god, but no devil. That doesn't mean there's no evil. So I think there could be a devil without a god. Purely theoretical of course, since I don't believ either exist. Anyway, I don't think something 'evil' must have a devil behind it, and I don't think a devil needs a good counterpart per se. Good and evil is really in the eye of the beholder; I don't think any terrorist thinks he is doing something evil. [ June 21, 2005, 04:57 AM: Message edited by: Koga ]

06-20-2005, 07:37 PM	#25
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Nick Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 10,313.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 10,813.00 Donate	Attention British people: Please stop supporting CrazyFrog before it gets over here. We already have enough obnoxious cellphone ringer scam commercials that come on every other commercial break and we don't need that obnoxious thing. Thanks, A concerned Yank

06-21-2005, 05:05 PM	#32
Legion Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Greater Mancester, UK Gender: Posts: 1,860 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Points: 7,800.29 Bank: 6,647.77 Total Points: 14,448.06 Donate	Honestly, I leave you lot alone for five minutes, and you've already managed to get this into the debate forums? [img]tongue.gif[/img] I have to say, for a topic about Crazy Frog on GBA, you've done pretty well.

06-21-2005, 06:34 PM	#33
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 176 Times in 118 Posts Points: 104,306.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 122,058.82 Donate	Lurch, I'm sorry that I have to say that Crazy Frog is outselling the new Coldplay single 4 to 1.

06-22-2005, 06:24 AM	#35
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06-22-2005, 06:51 PM	#37
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 176 Times in 118 Posts Points: 104,306.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 122,058.82 Donate	I think Coldplay are one of the few bands of the moment. Also it's the number 2, which would've been number one if it weren't for that bleeding Crazy Frog. And I think any artist deserves to beat a ringtone to the number one spot. [ June 23, 2005, 09:52 AM: Message edited by: The March Of The Black Queen ]

06-22-2005, 08:53 PM	#38
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06-28-2005, 03:34 PM	#39
Dusty Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Under your bed Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 2,800.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 3,300.00 Donate	Coldplay ain't bad, they're just too preachy and trying too hard to be Radiohead.

06-29-2005, 11:35 AM	#40
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