Is there any such thing as an unbiased souce of information? - VGF

Sampson1986 · 12-19-2005, 01:20 PM

Discuss. Debate.

***CaptHayfever*** · 12-19-2005, 04:49 PM

Yes. Direct observation.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Shane Sacobie · 12-19-2005, 06:59 PM

No. People see/hear/believe what they want. Everything we experience is influenced by some degree of bias.

Princess Zelda of Hyrule · 12-19-2005, 07:36 PM

Even the human five senses are a bias.

***Ace Mercury*** · 12-19-2005, 08:18 PM

I believe that at the very heart, information is not biased; information, in the quantum mechanical sense. However, any interpretation of said information is skewed somewhat, by virtue of being observed. As such, it's not so much a problem with the source, but a problem with the observer.

***CaptHayfever*** · 12-20-2005, 02:57 AM

^Precisely.
I didn't say first-hand accounts, I said direct observation. By the time I relate my first-hand account to someone else, it has been biased by my skewed interpretation, but that skewed interpretation does not change the fact that the events I observed are what they are.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Sampson1986 · 12-20-2005, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ace Mercury:
I believe that at the very heart, information is not biased; information, in the quantum mechanical sense. However, any interpretation of said information is skewed somewhat, by virtue of being observed. As such, it's not so much a problem with the source, but a problem with the observer.

Right on.

Princess Zelda of Hyrule · 01-08-2006, 02:32 PM

Ditto.

***Ace Mercury*** · 01-08-2006, 11:51 PM

^, ^^, ^^^ Irony.

Life is hilarious.

12-19-2005, 01:20 PM	#1
Sampson1986 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Glacier County, Montana Gender: Posts: 319 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Points: 11,149.49 Bank: 563.08 Total Points: 11,712.57 Donate	Discuss. Debate.

12-19-2005, 04:49 PM	#2
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12-19-2005, 06:59 PM	#3
Shane Sacobie Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 10,961.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 11,461.00 Donate	No. People see/hear/believe what they want. Everything we experience is influenced by some degree of bias.

12-19-2005, 07:36 PM	#4
Princess Zelda of Hyrule Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Hyrule Castle Gender: Posts: 6,128 Thanks: 35 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Points: 6,484.36 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 6,984.36 Donate	Even the human five senses are a bias.

12-19-2005, 08:18 PM	#5
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 18,943 Thanks: 360 Thanked 1,493 Times in 783 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 97,977.84 Bank: 12,202,050.71 Total Points: 12,300,028.55 Donate	I believe that at the very heart, information is not biased; information, in the quantum mechanical sense. However, any interpretation of said information is skewed somewhat, by virtue of being observed. As such, it's not so much a problem with the source, but a problem with the observer.

12-20-2005, 02:57 AM	#6
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 19,273 Thanks: 160 Thanked 733 Times in 474 Posts Points: 105,385.73 Bank: 923.79 Total Points: 106,309.52 Donate	^Precisely. I didn't say first-hand accounts, I said direct observation. By the time I relate my first-hand account to someone else, it has been biased by my skewed interpretation, but that skewed interpretation does not change the fact that the events I observed are what they are. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

01-08-2006, 02:32 PM	#8
Princess Zelda of Hyrule Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Hyrule Castle Gender: Posts: 6,128 Thanks: 35 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Points: 6,484.36 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 6,984.36 Donate	Ditto.

01-08-2006, 11:51 PM	#9
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 18,943 Thanks: 360 Thanked 1,493 Times in 783 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 97,977.84 Bank: 12,202,050.71 Total Points: 12,300,028.55 Donate	^, ^^, ^^^ Irony. Life is hilarious.