So..

Brandon2390 · 03-15-2007, 10:03 PM

With all this talk about Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton winning the Democratic vote for this upcoming year, the question is, after all of this, how are they going to be able to get the candidate they choose to be a white male like we all know he will be in the future without a huge media-wide debate?

Demonicus Prime · 03-15-2007, 10:22 PM

Hillary Clinton is a white male.

jk, I guess

What do you mean, "a white male like we all know he will be "?

Bomby · 03-15-2007, 10:24 PM

He means they'll end up choosing a white male over Obama or Clinton.

Demonicus Prime · 03-15-2007, 11:18 PM

Wait, that makes no sense. Gulianni(sp?) is the only other one I can think of.

**Prince Toad** · 03-16-2007, 11:25 AM

^Giuliani's a Republican, they're Democrats. And anyway he'd also be almost as bad a president as Bush.

Obama seems awesome, although that's mostly on hearsay rather than actually knowing what he stands for. He does have a lot of charisma, though, and we could use a charismatic Democrat president. I'd rather not have Clinton-- among other reasons, because that means we'll have had either a Bush or a Clinton be president for 24 years (1989-2013). A little too dynastic for my tastes.

t3hDarkness · 03-16-2007, 10:54 PM

Do you mean to say that Clinton was not a good president?

I mean other than hiring a talkative secretary, he had a good run.

**Prince Toad** · 03-17-2007, 11:40 AM

Clinton was a great president. It's just that having only two names in office for 24 years... well. Like I said.

Bomby · 03-19-2007, 12:29 AM

I personally took offense to Hillary's "Senator Tomato" remarks about Charles Schumer. I really can't see myself voting for someone who made a joke out of my ethnicity. That doesn't fly with me.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-21-2007, 09:39 PM

I'd sooner take Giuliani in office over Romney, Brownback, or even McCain. But even Giuliani is stopping looking good now.

God help us if we get Hillary as the nominee. Nothing wrong with her except she's unelectable. Obama, on the other hand will make the Republicans look like a laughingstock, as they will try to run a smear campaign about how is name rhymes with Osama.

Bill Bradley needs to come out of retirement and be president. -CSM

**Prince Toad** · 03-22-2007, 02:32 PM

^I forget why, but Giuliani is terrible. His only credential is having been mayor of NYC during 9/11, which he certainly was. Aside from that, he's pretty awful.

DELICIOUS POISON · 03-28-2007, 12:55 AM

John Edwards is in third, that's how. I don't think there's too many people out there in love with the idea of Hillary Clinton being president. I also know for certain that the US is not going to elect a black president. I wish I didn't feel such certainty over that, but let's be realistic.

Acradius · 03-30-2007, 08:30 AM

Two words: Al Gore.

Brandon2390 · 03-30-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIGILANTE KEVORKIAN

John Edwards is in third, that's how. I don't think there's too many people out there in love with the idea of Hillary Clinton being president. I also know for certain that the US is not going to elect a black president. I wish I didn't feel such certainty over that, but let's be realistic.

At least you're honest with it. We all know it's not going to happen, even a woman being president probably still wont happen.

[sage] · 03-31-2007, 01:54 AM

I think it has more to do with whether they're qualified or not than what sex or race they are.

Btw, Obama has the most liberal voting record of all candidates, Clinton the least, although still extremely liberal.

Mirror, Mirror on the Wall - Who's the Most Liberal of Them All? - The Fix

Bomby · 03-31-2007, 10:21 PM

You say liberal like it's a bad thing.

Liberal is an amazingly good thing.

Lurch1982 · 04-01-2007, 05:29 PM

Two years.

That's how long Obama's been in the senate. Considering that he's been extremely consistent with his votes and hasn't backed down his opposition to, well, most of the Bush agenda or opposition to the war, it isn't that shocking.

Clinton's overall record puts her above 70% on most issues.

When you get down to it, I'd rather have someone consistent that can answer his standings on the spot than someone who has to consult polls or handlers to get the "right" answer (looking at McCain and Clinton for this one).

Again, like its a bad thing? How dare someone not back down from their beliefs. It isn't like Obama's advocating the glorious worker's revolution (go to Wisconsin for people who advocate that) either.

This is one of those bull**** numbers that lardmouths like Bill "use the falaffel--ERR--loofa" O'Reilly or lardass pillheads like Rush throw around to their drones. Why don't people go nuts that Hagel (R-Neb) and Brownback (R-Kan) are the most Conservative people running. Bible-thumping zealots that want to ban evolution and return the country to god (as if it was really a Christian nation to begin with considering it was founded by intellectual deists) are intrinsically more dangerous than someone who advocates pulling out of that quagmire in Iraq and providing living wages and generally improving society for all.

Everybody Nose · 04-01-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIGILANTE KEVORKIAN

John Edwards is in third, that's how. I don't think there's too many people out there in love with the idea of Hillary Clinton being president. I also know for certain that the US is not going to elect a black president. I wish I didn't feel such certainty over that, but let's be realistic.

The first one will be shot.

Bomby · 04-01-2007, 09:04 PM

^ not if he picks a really scary vice-president. Why do you think nobody shot Bush? Cheney.

...

Either that or I've just seen Head of State too many times.

Lurch1982 · 04-01-2007, 10:03 PM

^Because the Gun-nuts and people statistically more likely to gun down someone support Bush?

Bomby · 04-01-2007, 10:18 PM

^ Could be part of it. But don't underestimate those crazy left-wing radicals.

03-15-2007, 10:03 PM	#1
Brandon2390 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 10,404 Thanks: 6 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts Points: 40,287.42 Bank: 1,126.10 Total Points: 41,413.52 Donate	So.. With all this talk about Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton winning the Democratic vote for this upcoming year, the question is, after all of this, how are they going to be able to get the candidate they choose to be a white male like we all know he will be in the future without a huge media-wide debate?

03-31-2007, 01:54 AM	#14
[sage] Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Florida Gender: Posts: 18,022 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Points: 31,843.64 Bank: 552.04 Total Points: 32,395.68 Donate	I think it has more to do with whether they're qualified or not than what sex or race they are. Btw, Obama has the most liberal voting record of all candidates, Clinton the least, although still extremely liberal. Mirror, Mirror on the Wall - Who's the Most Liberal of Them All? - The Fix Last edited by [sage]; 03-31-2007 at 03:09 AM.

03-15-2007, 10:22 PM	#2
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 572 Thanked 96 Times in 70 Posts Points: 14,348.84 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 14,348.84 Donate	Hillary Clinton is a white male. jk, I guess What do you mean, "a white male like we all know he will be "?

03-15-2007, 10:24 PM	#3
Bomby The Man Who Sold the World Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere Gender: Posts: 15,263 Thanks: 215 Thanked 629 Times in 409 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 12,882.45 Bank: 2,822,947.69 Total Points: 2,835,830.14 Donate	He means they'll end up choosing a white male over Obama or Clinton.

03-15-2007, 11:18 PM	#4
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,937 Thanks: 572 Thanked 96 Times in 70 Posts Points: 14,348.84 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 14,348.84 Donate	Wait, that makes no sense. Gulianni(sp?) is the only other one I can think of.

03-16-2007, 11:25 AM	#5
Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,420 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 44,885.04 Bank: 23,214.76 Total Points: 68,099.80 Donate	^Giuliani's a Republican, they're Democrats. And anyway he'd also be almost as bad a president as Bush. Obama seems awesome, although that's mostly on hearsay rather than actually knowing what he stands for. He does have a lot of charisma, though, and we could use a charismatic Democrat president. I'd rather not have Clinton-- among other reasons, because that means we'll have had either a Bush or a Clinton be president for 24 years (1989-2013). A little too dynastic for my tastes.

03-16-2007, 10:54 PM	#6
t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I've been lost here before Gender: Posts: 4,197 Thanks: 44 Thanked 111 Times in 89 Posts Points: 13,628.40 Bank: 89,809.26 Total Points: 103,437.65 Donate	Do you mean to say that Clinton was not a good president? I mean other than hiring a talkative secretary, he had a good run.

03-17-2007, 11:40 AM	#7
Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,420 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 44,885.04 Bank: 23,214.76 Total Points: 68,099.80 Donate	Clinton was a great president. It's just that having only two names in office for 24 years... well. Like I said.

03-19-2007, 12:29 AM	#8
Bomby The Man Who Sold the World Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere Gender: Posts: 15,263 Thanks: 215 Thanked 629 Times in 409 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 12,882.45 Bank: 2,822,947.69 Total Points: 2,835,830.14 Donate	I personally took offense to Hillary's "Senator Tomato" remarks about Charles Schumer. I really can't see myself voting for someone who made a joke out of my ethnicity. That doesn't fly with me.

03-21-2007, 09:39 PM	#9
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,164 Thanks: 560 Thanked 403 Times in 272 Posts Points: 141,027.71 Bank: 39,667.72 Total Points: 180,695.42 Donate	I'd sooner take Giuliani in office over Romney, Brownback, or even McCain. But even Giuliani is stopping looking good now. God help us if we get Hillary as the nominee. Nothing wrong with her except she's unelectable. Obama, on the other hand will make the Republicans look like a laughingstock, as they will try to run a smear campaign about how is name rhymes with Osama. Bill Bradley needs to come out of retirement and be president. -CSM

03-22-2007, 02:32 PM	#10
Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,420 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 44,885.04 Bank: 23,214.76 Total Points: 68,099.80 Donate	^I forget why, but Giuliani is terrible. His only credential is having been mayor of NYC during 9/11, which he certainly was. Aside from that, he's pretty awful.

03-28-2007, 12:55 AM	#11
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,306 Thanks: 525 Thanked 1,436 Times in 721 Posts Points: 8,903.62 Bank: 2,667,479.76 Total Points: 2,676,383.38 Donate	John Edwards is in third, that's how. I don't think there's too many people out there in love with the idea of Hillary Clinton being president. I also know for certain that the US is not going to elect a black president. I wish I didn't feel such certainty over that, but let's be realistic.

03-30-2007, 08:30 AM	#12
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03-31-2007, 10:21 PM	#15
Bomby The Man Who Sold the World Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere Gender: Posts: 15,263 Thanks: 215 Thanked 629 Times in 409 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 12,882.45 Bank: 2,822,947.69 Total Points: 2,835,830.14 Donate	You say liberal like it's a bad thing. Liberal is an amazingly good thing.

04-01-2007, 05:29 PM	#16
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,156 Thanks: 119 Thanked 213 Times in 128 Posts Points: 27,986.64 Bank: 179,738.82 Total Points: 207,725.46 Donate	Two years. That's how long Obama's been in the senate. Considering that he's been extremely consistent with his votes and hasn't backed down his opposition to, well, most of the Bush agenda or opposition to the war, it isn't that shocking. Clinton's overall record puts her above 70% on most issues. When you get down to it, I'd rather have someone consistent that can answer his standings on the spot than someone who has to consult polls or handlers to get the "right" answer (looking at McCain and Clinton for this one). Again, like its a bad thing? How dare someone not back down from their beliefs. It isn't like Obama's advocating the glorious worker's revolution (go to Wisconsin for people who advocate that) either. This is one of those bull**** numbers that lardmouths like Bill "use the falaffel--ERR--loofa" O'Reilly or lardass pillheads like Rush throw around to their drones. Why don't people go nuts that Hagel (R-Neb) and Brownback (R-Kan) are the most Conservative people running. Bible-thumping zealots that want to ban evolution and return the country to god (as if it was really a Christian nation to begin with considering it was founded by intellectual deists) are intrinsically more dangerous than someone who advocates pulling out of that quagmire in Iraq and providing living wages and generally improving society for all.

04-01-2007, 09:04 PM	#18
Bomby The Man Who Sold the World Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere Gender: Posts: 15,263 Thanks: 215 Thanked 629 Times in 409 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 12,882.45 Bank: 2,822,947.69 Total Points: 2,835,830.14 Donate	^ not if he picks a really scary vice-president. Why do you think nobody shot Bush? Cheney. ... Either that or I've just seen Head of State too many times.

04-01-2007, 10:03 PM	#19
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,156 Thanks: 119 Thanked 213 Times in 128 Posts Points: 27,986.64 Bank: 179,738.82 Total Points: 207,725.46 Donate	^Because the Gun-nuts and people statistically more likely to gun down someone support Bush?

04-01-2007, 10:18 PM	#20
Bomby The Man Who Sold the World Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Off the coast and I'm headed nowhere Gender: Posts: 15,263 Thanks: 215 Thanked 629 Times in 409 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 12,882.45 Bank: 2,822,947.69 Total Points: 2,835,830.14 Donate	^ Could be part of it. But don't underestimate those crazy left-wing radicals.