Hillary and McCain win the New Hampshire primary

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-09-2008, 08:50 AM

This is going to be long and tiring. -CSM

**Prince Toad** · 01-09-2008, 02:54 PM

Apparently some number of women were influenced to vote for Hillary by her "emotional moment." Like that makes her more qualified to be president somehow. Bull****.

**Perrin Aybara** · 01-09-2008, 03:40 PM

I really don't understand how people could see anything positive out of Hill's "moment". I saw one clip of it, and all I heard was "I'm sad because I wish I was president so I can help this country the way I want."

I mean...she sounds so egotistical. Crying because she wants to be president?

Gah. Hill just irrirates me to no end. It's so obvious that she's been calculating trying to become president for decades (I mean come on, Senator of New York? Obvious setup for a presidential run.) To me, she comes off as too much of a phoney. That's all it comes down to.

I really hope BO can pull this off... I really don't want to see President Hill for 4+ years.

(And no, it's not a woman thing. It's a HC thing. If *any* other woman was running for president...)

-jay

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-09-2008, 04:46 PM

Hillary actually has some of the best credentials. I won't vote for her, though, because she's Hillary and she'll never win the general election. Obama better do well. And the worst part is Michigan is next, and the Democrats aren't counting the results of the primary there because Michigan moved it up. -CSM

***ZeldaGirl*** · 01-09-2008, 05:07 PM

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I really hope BO can pull this off

The nickname made me laugh...

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(And no, it's not a woman thing. It's a HC thing. If *any* other woman was running for president...)

I for one am the same way, and I know plenty of other women who are too...

Bomby · 01-09-2008, 07:06 PM

Is there going to be a new topic every time someone wins a primary?

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-09-2008, 07:07 PM

^Nope, just Iowa, New Hampshire, and after Super Tuesday. -CSM

Demonicus Prime · 01-09-2008, 07:22 PM

"You Committed Suicide" /Halo2

Wow, if she wins anything outside of this, I may actually leave the country. I can't have 12 straight years of dumbassery.

**Prince Toad** · 01-09-2008, 08:30 PM

What might disturb me most is that, if Hillary wins, we'll have a 24-year period (1989-2013) in which only two last names held the office. I thought we weren't supposed to have a freaking monarchy.

I'm with you, Jay. She seems by far the slimiest of the serious Democrats. She insults and manipulates while Edwards and Obama stay above that behavior for the most part. I'll grant her the experience thing, but I'd rather have a candid, inspirational leader in the Oval Office than another regular politician, no matter how many bills she's signed.

**Perrin Aybara** · 01-09-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PT

What might disturb me most is that, if Hillary wins, we'll have a 24-year period (1989-2013) in which only two last names held the office. I thought we weren't supposed to have a freaking monarchy.

Seriously, that may be the thing that sickens me the most. It's just so completely lame. It makes us (aka America) look like a bunch of moronic sheep. "Duuuh. We're too stupid to use our brains and vote for someone else."

Every time I hear BO speak, he just sounds so refreshing. A new face. Someone who hasn't been around politics forever. Someone who seems simply genuine.

It's a shame I can't vote in the MD primary since I'm independent...

(Not that it ever really matters, since the MD primary is always months after it's already over.)

But honestly, I have no idea what possesses people to vote for someone like the Big Hill. It's just sickening.

God dammit... I hate politics.

-jay

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-09-2008, 09:25 PM

I'm in favor of open primaries. Iowa and NH both had them and the Democrats doubled the Republicans both times. -CSM

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-10-2008, 01:46 AM

^^You don't have to be registered to take a primary ballot, at least not in Missouri. I'm independent, but I always take Democratic primary ballots.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Perrin Aybara** · 01-10-2008, 09:37 AM

^ It depends on the state. MD doesn't let you do that.-jay

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-10-2008, 09:49 AM

Missouri has an open primary? Wow, I should probably register there instead of NJ. I'd still vote for Obama, but I want to up the Democratic vote in an important state. -CSM

Sir Bolt the Dragoon · 01-10-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

^ It depends on the state. MD doesn't let you do that.-jay

Neither does NY. I'm pissed.

Whatever. Obama still leads in the committed delegate count, and that's all that really matters anyway. Plus, he just got John Kerry's endorsement (which may mean a lot more than it seems).

Besides, how long can Hillary pop out tears? Her supply can't be that big.

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-10-2008, 02:00 PM

It especially helps in a blue-strangled city like St. Louis, 'cause a lot of the local races don't even have Republican or Libertarian candidates, so the primary basically IS the election for those offices.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Kargath** · 01-23-2008, 06:02 AM

Now there's apparently been weird stuff happening in the recount.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...ount-unco.html

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Prince Toad PC Mod Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rookery Gender: Posts: 11,420 Thanks: 43 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts Points: 44,885.04 Bank: 23,214.76 Total Points: 68,099.80 Donate	What might disturb me most is that, if Hillary wins, we'll have a 24-year period (1989-2013) in which only two last names held the office. I thought we weren't supposed to have a freaking monarchy. I'm with you, Jay. She seems by far the slimiest of the serious Democrats. She insults and manipulates while Edwards and Obama stay above that behavior for the most part. I'll grant her the experience thing, but I'd rather have a candid, inspirational leader in the Oval Office than another regular politician, no matter how many bills she's signed.

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