Would you actually change your beliefs based on a debate here?

Vapor · 07-01-2008, 10:46 AM

Would you ever actually, in a debate here, admit that you're wrong and change your ideas?

I might, depending on how reasoned the other side is and what the issue is. but I don't really adhere to any one solid set of beliefs with conviction (i.e. religion, political party), so I'm different from some others here.

ZeldaGirl · 07-01-2008, 01:17 PM

Anything's possible... though not very likely.

Dizzy · 07-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Eh, maybe.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-01-2008, 01:24 PM

Bomby · 07-01-2008, 01:35 PM

I'm always right. Therefore it is inherent to that fact that one who was to disagree with me would be automatically and indisputably wrong.

Swordmaster Link · 07-01-2008, 01:47 PM

Depends on what is being debated. There are a few things I have a pretty firm stance on, but for the most part I'm open to really good rhetoric.

The real question is, why is it that people spend so much time trying to convince others that their way is the best? I don't get why certain things i.e. religion is like a proverbial tug of war all the time. If someone wants to be a Catholic, be a Catholic...and so on and so forth. It's like people want so desparately to be a part of the "right" answer that they try to convert as many people to their cause as they can to affirm their already unprovable beliefs. Here and there I've seen people accuse religious people of trying to impose their beliefs on the reality of others...but don't we all do that? I'm stopping cause I'm starting to sound like Nietzche.

Joker · 07-01-2008, 02:33 PM

^ ditto

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**Deku Trii** · 07-03-2008, 08:31 AM

I could probably be talked into changing an occasional political stance with the right arguments.

Robotazy · 07-03-2008, 08:39 AM

I'd need to be tortured first

Minukelsus · 07-03-2008, 01:27 PM

Highly unlikely. like Tazy; it would take tremendous amounts of pressure/torture to convert me from my beliefs.

Minukelsus · 07-03-2008, 10:31 PM

Perhaps. Perhaps not... Though, highly unlikely.

Kargath · 07-04-2008, 03:11 AM

If presented with appropriate evidence and logical inference that counters my position, certainly.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-04-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargath

If presented with appropriate evidence and logical inference that counters my position, certainly.

Basically this. Emphasis on logic. I only believe in things that are reasonably truthful; I do my best to remain unbiased by 'could be's.

I usually just pick the side of logic or absolutes. Hasn't failed me once.

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-04-2008, 11:31 AM

Depends. -CSM

John Galt · 07-05-2008, 12:17 PM

Probably not.

Jonnadiah · 07-06-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargath

If presented with appropriate evidence and logical inference that counters my position, certainly.

Pretty much this. I tend to be outstandingly conservative on things that I don't know all that much about, but with proper evidence and experience, I would change my opinion in a heartbeat.

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07-01-2008, 10:46 AM	#1
Vapor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WHERE IT'S AT Gender: Posts: 5,211 Thanks: 314 Thanked 413 Times in 249 Posts	Would you actually change your beliefs based on a debate here? Would you ever actually, in a debate here, admit that you're wrong and change your ideas? I might, depending on how reasoned the other side is and what the issue is. but I don't really adhere to any one solid set of beliefs with conviction (i.e. religion, political party), so I'm different from some others here.

07-01-2008, 01:24 PM	#4
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,659 Thanks: 31 Thanked 89 Times in 71 Posts	Yes.

07-01-2008, 01:17 PM	#2
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Anything's possible... though not very likely.

07-01-2008, 01:20 PM	#3
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Eh, maybe.

07-01-2008, 01:35 PM	#5
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I'm always right. Therefore it is inherent to that fact that one who was to disagree with me would be automatically and indisputably wrong.

07-01-2008, 01:47 PM	#6
Swordmaster Link Super Bodyguard & King of the Arcade Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Wherever you want me to be Gender: Posts: 32,132 Thanks: 253 Thanked 951 Times in 640 Posts Blog Entries: 2	Depends on what is being debated. There are a few things I have a pretty firm stance on, but for the most part I'm open to really good rhetoric. The real question is, why is it that people spend so much time trying to convince others that their way is the best? I don't get why certain things i.e. religion is like a proverbial tug of war all the time. If someone wants to be a Catholic, be a Catholic...and so on and so forth. It's like people want so desparately to be a part of the "right" answer that they try to convert as many people to their cause as they can to affirm their already unprovable beliefs. Here and there I've seen people accuse religious people of trying to impose their beliefs on the reality of others...but don't we all do that? I'm stopping cause I'm starting to sound like Nietzche.

07-01-2008, 02:33 PM	#7
Joker Lord of Vampires / God of Vengeance Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Planet of Eternal Darkness Gender: Posts: 11,117 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 580 Times in 364 Posts Blog Entries: 6	^ ditto See Sig v

07-03-2008, 08:31 AM	#8
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	I could probably be talked into changing an occasional political stance with the right arguments.

07-03-2008, 08:39 AM	#9
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	I'd need to be tortured first

07-03-2008, 01:27 PM	#10
Minukelsus Beautiful Radiant Flower Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain: (the Empire on which the sun never sets) Gender: Posts: 1,710 Thanks: 154 Thanked 98 Times in 88 Posts	Highly unlikely. like Tazy; it would take tremendous amounts of pressure/torture to convert me from my beliefs.

07-03-2008, 10:31 PM	#11
Minukelsus Beautiful Radiant Flower Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain: (the Empire on which the sun never sets) Gender: Posts: 1,710 Thanks: 154 Thanked 98 Times in 88 Posts	Perhaps. Perhaps not... Though, highly unlikely.

07-04-2008, 03:11 AM	#12
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	If presented with appropriate evidence and logical inference that counters my position, certainly.

07-04-2008, 11:31 AM	#14
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Depends. -CSM

07-05-2008, 12:17 PM	#15
John Galt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Little Ireland Gender: Posts: 490 Thanks: 20 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	Probably not.