Palin leaves open option of war with Russia

**Valigarmander** · 09-11-2008, 06:25 PM

Palin leaves open option of war with Russia - Yahoo! News

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Palin told Charles Gibson of ABC News that she'd favor including Georgia and Ukraine, both former Soviet republics, in NATO despite opposition by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. Asked whether the United States would have to go to war with Russia if it invaded Georgia, and the country was part of NATO, Palin said: "Perhaps so."

I take it there's no longer any option for our government to solve problems abroad other than to send in tanks and soldiers.

heh · 09-11-2008, 06:31 PM

gooooooo mccain wooooo more war more oil wooooooo

***Cosmonautical*** · 09-13-2008, 05:50 AM

NUCLEAR WAR WOOT

Maximum Spider · 09-13-2008, 06:35 AM

MAYBE WE SHOULD LOB ONE INTO THE MEN'S ROOM OF THE KREMLIN.

Minukelsus · 09-13-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DELICIOUS POISON

NUCLEAR WAR WOOT

I shall be ready, I will get involved, and I eagerly await the inevitable!

And my battle experience shall ensure that I survive Armageddon - for to lurk in the shadows, whilst my fellow brethren get massacred would be dishonorable, and that is certainly not my forte.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-13-2008, 10:51 AM

War with Russia = end of the United States of America. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 09-13-2008, 10:59 PM

I'd leave war with Russia open as an option as well. NATO has absolutely no point if a potential aggressor isn't facing massive retaliation from the rest of NATO.

Kil'jaeden · 09-15-2008, 03:41 AM

It sounds ridiculous. Iraq and Afghanistan are enough right now as it is, and those are already a srain on resources and manpower. Russia is enough to actually be a threat, and the US has never actually went to war with a country that could threaten the US itself since WWII.

Speed · 09-15-2008, 09:58 AM

WORLD WAR THREE FOR THE WIN.

Robotazy · 09-15-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Winston Payne

I take it there's no longer any option for our government to solve problems abroad other than to send in tanks and soldiers.

We've had/used any other option?

Lurch1982 · 09-15-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kil'jaeden

It sounds ridiculous. Iraq and Afghanistan are enough right now as it is, and those are already a srain on resources and manpower. Russia is enough to actually be a threat, and the US has never actually went to war with a country that could threaten the US itself since WWII.

Read the question again. If Georgia and the Ukraine were hypothetically part of NATO, would she favor retaliation if Russia invaded a NATO member. If the answer isn't automatically yes, disband NATO because there's absolutely no point to it existing. The entire point of the NATO pact is so member states are less likely to get invaded due to the massive retaliation from the rest of the organization. There are valid points to criticize Palin, but this isn't one of them.

Kil'jaeden · 09-15-2008, 09:50 PM

If we retaliate, we get a war between nuclear powers, which we have managed to avoid so far and had better avoid. If we didn't retaliate, then there is no point of the organization. Either way is bad. And, we could not even manage a war with Russia right now if we did retaliate.

Lurch1982 · 09-15-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kil'jaeden

If we retaliate, we get a war between nuclear powers, which we have managed to avoid so far and had better avoid. If we didn't retaliate, then there is no point of the organization. Either way is bad. And, we could not even manage a war with Russia right now if we did retaliate.

There's also the other question: would Russia have invaded in the first place if Georgia were part of NATO? That's the problem with the hypothetical. Somehow, I don't see Russia striking a NATO member.

LinkManDX · 09-16-2008, 05:25 PM

Leaving an option open =/= aggression

I agree with Lurch (lolwut) that the whole point of NATO as a defensive pact dies if you don't defend the other people in the pact.

09-13-2008, 06:35 AM	#4
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heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	gooooooo mccain wooooo more war more oil wooooooo

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Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: DenCo Gender: Posts: 9,850 Thanks: 127 Thanked 365 Times in 192 Posts	I'd leave war with Russia open as an option as well. NATO has absolutely no point if a potential aggressor isn't facing massive retaliation from the rest of NATO.

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Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	It sounds ridiculous. Iraq and Afghanistan are enough right now as it is, and those are already a srain on resources and manpower. Russia is enough to actually be a threat, and the US has never actually went to war with a country that could threaten the US itself since WWII.

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Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	If we retaliate, we get a war between nuclear powers, which we have managed to avoid so far and had better avoid. If we didn't retaliate, then there is no point of the organization. Either way is bad. And, we could not even manage a war with Russia right now if we did retaliate.

09-16-2008, 05:25 PM	#14
LinkManDX Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Because political usernames ftw Gender: Posts: 3,582 Thanks: 297 Thanked 266 Times in 156 Posts	Leaving an option open =/= aggression I agree with Lurch (lolwut) that the whole point of NATO as a defensive pact dies if you don't defend the other people in the pact.