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Bomby · 11-09-2008, 11:16 PM

1. How do you know God isn't lying to you?

2. How come we never get to hear Satan's side of the story?

Thankyou.

**Valigarmander** · 11-09-2008, 11:19 PM

1. Because that would be wrong, and God is without sin.

2. Because he'd lie to you.

t3hDarkness · 11-10-2008, 01:02 AM

1. I don't remember there being a "Thou shall not protect people from them selves or propogate half truths."
He is, for the same reason we lie to children.

2. I suggest Niel Giaman's "Lucifer" graphic novels. They were a pretty good read.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 11-10-2008, 06:41 AM

1. Does God himself actually speak to anyone here? Because from what I knew, we were just getting a second-hand story from people who claim God told them a bunch of things. People sure are liars. Is God capable of lying? What would God lie about?

2. God wouldn't want that... Besides, "Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself." Maybe we already do hear Satan's version of events? Who knows. You'll actually need to find someone who believes in God and Satan (in the usual religious sense) to give you a straight answer. Sorry.

(also, if there's a Satan, the one in Tarot by Piers Anthony would be it

)

***Cosmonautical*** · 11-10-2008, 06:46 AM

The whole Lucifer story really makes no bloody sense. It paints God as totally naïve.

Robotazy · 11-10-2008, 08:50 AM

1. Because he can instantly make it true.

"Oh, did you know Pigs fly?" *Zap* "There, see? There's one flying right now."

2. He's too busy toturing Hitler, and Stock Brokers from 1929.

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-10-2008, 11:46 AM

Re: #2

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

I am nobody · 11-10-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomby

1. How do you know God isn't lying to you?

2. How come we never get to hear Satan's side of the story?

Thankyou.

1. Which God? I haven't had too many problems with Shiva, but Hades is another story.

2. Blame his publisher.

heh · 11-11-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds

1. Does God himself actually speak to anyone here? Because from what I knew, we were just getting a second-hand story from people who claim God told them a bunch of things. People sure are liars. Is God capable of lying? What would God lie about?

was going to say this.

2. i dunno satan might be a p. cool guy but i wouldn't want to go over to his house and talk to him about it its really hot there.

Metal Man · 11-11-2008, 01:47 PM

1. Loaded question. What God? How? Where? I don't see one.
2. It's hard to get the other side of a story from somebody who doesn't exist.

Bomby · 11-11-2008, 09:10 PM

(This wasn't really meant for Athiests)

heh · 11-11-2008, 09:57 PM

what about bears

t3hDarkness · 11-18-2008, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Jeffries

Fire and Brimstone, eternal agony, that's what's written in the bible. That's gods book. As far as I know, the devil hasn't brought out a book.
We don't know his side of the argument, right?

If you ask me the Devil and God are having an argument and the devil's being the bigger man because God is just writing **** about him and the devil is going, "I'm not even gonna ****ing comment."

Luigiman7 · 11-18-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Chop Master Onion

1. Because that would be wrong, and God is without sin.

2. Because he'd lie to you.

**Deku Trii** · 11-18-2008, 05:58 PM

If he was, I imagine he'd be the type of being who could actually fool all of the people all of the time. I can't even always tell when a mortal is lying.

***Cosmonautical*** · 11-18-2008, 09:07 PM

Well, you know, omnipotence is supposed to be omnipotent. I mean, if God were truly all-powerful he could make everything horrible he does good, anyway. But good and bad are just words. Good for me isn't necessarily good for you.

LinkManDX · 11-19-2008, 05:19 PM

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Godot · 12-16-2008, 08:18 PM

If God wanted all of us to be perfect--how come after Adam and Eve sinned he didn't just killed them and made a new pair of people?

heh · 12-16-2008, 09:08 PM

2. paradise lost

Swordmaster Link · 12-17-2008, 12:53 AM

1. You don't "know" anything. That's why it's called faith.

2. The answer to #1 implies that I don't need to hear the other side.

Either way, I think questions like these are silly. People concern themselves way too much with whether or not their religion is "right". They should worry more about what these beliefs mean on a personal level, so that they can have a (supplemental) foundation of morals. I'm Catholic, I believe in God. Why the hell should I care if someone else doesn't agree with me? Didn't Jesus preach loving others? If you don't believe in God, it's not like I'd wish for you to burn in hell or something ridiculous like that. Do your own thing, as long as you don't threaten me or others.

As far as I'm concerned, religion helps me be a better person. End of story.

11-09-2008, 11:16 PM	#1
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	?s 1. How do you know God isn't lying to you? 2. How come we never get to hear Satan's side of the story? Thankyou.

11-09-2008, 11:19 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	1. Because that would be wrong, and God is without sin. 2. Because he'd lie to you.

11-10-2008, 01:02 AM	#3
t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I weep oily black tears of joy. Gender: Posts: 7,590 Thanks: 119 Thanked 418 Times in 306 Posts Blog Entries: 5	1. I don't remember there being a "Thou shall not protect people from them selves or propogate half truths." He is, for the same reason we lie to children. 2. I suggest Niel Giaman's "Lucifer" graphic novels. They were a pretty good read.

11-10-2008, 06:41 AM	#4
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	1. Does God himself actually speak to anyone here? Because from what I knew, we were just getting a second-hand story from people who claim God told them a bunch of things. People sure are liars. Is God capable of lying? What would God lie about? 2. God wouldn't want that... Besides, "Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself." Maybe we already do hear Satan's version of events? Who knows. You'll actually need to find someone who believes in God and Satan (in the usual religious sense) to give you a straight answer. Sorry. (also, if there's a Satan, the one in Tarot by Piers Anthony would be it )

11-10-2008, 06:46 AM	#5
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	The whole Lucifer story really makes no bloody sense. It paints God as totally naïve.

11-10-2008, 08:50 AM	#6
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	1. Because he can instantly make it true. "Oh, did you know Pigs fly?" Zap "There, see? There's one flying right now." 2. He's too busy toturing Hitler, and Stock Brokers from 1929.

11-10-2008, 11:46 AM	#7
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Re: #2 And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

11-11-2008, 01:47 PM	#10
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	1. Loaded question. What God? How? Where? I don't see one. 2. It's hard to get the other side of a story from somebody who doesn't exist.

11-11-2008, 09:10 PM	#11
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	(This wasn't really meant for Athiests)

11-11-2008, 09:57 PM	#12
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	what about bears

11-18-2008, 05:58 PM	#15
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	If he was, I imagine he'd be the type of being who could actually fool all of the people all of the time. I can't even always tell when a mortal is lying.

11-18-2008, 09:07 PM	#16
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Well, you know, omnipotence is supposed to be omnipotent. I mean, if God were truly all-powerful he could make everything horrible he does good, anyway. But good and bad are just words. Good for me isn't necessarily good for you.

12-16-2008, 08:18 PM	#18
Godot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Coffee. Gender: Posts: 6,054 Thanks: 169 Thanked 161 Times in 102 Posts	If God wanted all of us to be perfect--how come after Adam and Eve sinned he didn't just killed them and made a new pair of people?

12-16-2008, 09:08 PM	#19
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	2. paradise lost

12-17-2008, 12:53 AM	#20
Swordmaster Link Super Bodyguard & King of the Arcade Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Wherever you want me to be Gender: Posts: 32,132 Thanks: 253 Thanked 951 Times in 640 Posts Blog Entries: 2	1. You don't "know" anything. That's why it's called faith. 2. The answer to #1 implies that I don't need to hear the other side. Either way, I think questions like these are silly. People concern themselves way too much with whether or not their religion is "right". They should worry more about what these beliefs mean on a personal level, so that they can have a (supplemental) foundation of morals. I'm Catholic, I believe in God. Why the hell should I care if someone else doesn't agree with me? Didn't Jesus preach loving others? If you don't believe in God, it's not like I'd wish for you to burn in hell or something ridiculous like that. Do your own thing, as long as you don't threaten me or others. As far as I'm concerned, religion helps me be a better person. End of story.