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Old 01-12-2009, 04:44 PM   #1
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A Question for the Christians

1. We are all sons and daughters of 'God' right? then why does it say that god gave his 'one and only son' for our sins?

2. Who the **** cares if we have sins?

3. Where the h*ll is this 'Almighty' God supposed to have come from anyway?

4. If God created us, why the h*ll do we have proof of evolving?

5. If God is everything, then why am not the almighty awesome all powerful being?

6. If God is everything (part 2) then why dont i hear screams when i kick rocks or light things on fire.

7. If God is everything (part 3) then do i eat bits of God everyday?

8. How is God a guy? Woman, after all, are those whom create beings.

I hope all Christians review and think over these important 8 questions. And if you have anwsers, i would definitley LOVE to know, because i have no idea of what they might be.

Thank you for you're time.

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Old 01-12-2009, 09:36 PM   #2
 
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As a Jew, I believe some of these questions can apply to me.

1. Irrelevant.

2. We say that all sins against God are instantly forgiven, but all sins committed against other people or animals or the planet can only be forgiven if they accept your apology. Makes sense to me.

3. One of the many mysteries that can never be solved. God is just there, I believe. It doesn't really come from anywhere, and it isn't responsible for most of what happens, but is probably the foundation.

4. I believe in sort of a "theistic evolution." God is the answer to what we don't know....until we prove otherwise. In the case of evolution, we have.

5. I don't think God is a being. I think it's an essence of sorts.

6. See above.

7. See above.

8. First of all, you called God "him" earlier in your post. Second of all, God doesn't have a gender, I think. After all, it's not a being but an essence. -CSM
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:51 PM   #3
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1. You're taking this all wrong.

2. People who care that they do.

3. Nowhere, literally. He always has and always will exist.

4. Evolution can arguably go hand-in-hand with religion.

5/6/7. "Are you telling jokes? I love jokes." - Ol' Drippy

8. So this means what about God?

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1. You're not good with abstracts, are you?

2. God cares, apparently.

3. If Animorphs is to be believed, he was formed when a multi-bodied being found his parts existing in Zero-space, regular space, & a black hole all at once.

4. God created everything. Then, over 4.5 billion years, it changed a lot.

5. Because you won't free your mind. *leaps across rooftops effortlessly*

6. I dunno, maybe you should get your hearing checked.

7. Yes.

8. God being genderless has been explained several times before.

Pardon my flippant, irreverent responses, but given your tone, I doubt you came here looking for respectful, serious discussion.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:49 AM   #5
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^ I wuz gunna say that last part (in a less sophisticated manner). But I tend to piss people off (she already called me a douche).
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You're being far too negative to get anywhere with this, and this forum is kind of beyond this sort of simple debate, anyway.

To get an explanation, you have to want an explanation. You just want them to be wrong.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:13 AM   #7
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Yeah, to me, the OP is more of an argument against Christianity/veiled insult rather than an honest appeal for answers.

That being said, it raises a general point that doubt should be the cornerstone of any faith. The questions, though, are a bit meaningless and troll-like.

And now, for your entertainment, my answers:
1. Those parts of "it", wherever you read "it" from, were probably written by separate people.
2. Any conscionable person would care about the consequences of their ill actions. Transgressions against fellow men don't go over well in a society.
3. This is one of those questions that doesn't have an answer, much like asking where time and space come from.
4. If God is so powerful, I'm pretty sure he can fake some fossils and ****.
5-7. You seem to have taken the phrase "God is everything" or "God is in everything" and extended it to its most literal sense. It's easy enough to cartwheel around your implication that "God is not everything" though, e.g. that you and everything around you are manifestations of God's will.
8. I don't think there are any tenants that "God is a guy"; I agree that it is phallocentric, as in the past equality between sexes left much to be desired.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:40 AM   #8
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1. God created Jesus...and he also created Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve started to populate the Earth. If you believe in this, then Eve is your so many times Great Grandma.

2. It's one thing to be born with sins. It's acting on the sins. Do you really believe nobody will be hurt if someone killed another?

3. He came when a mommy goddess and a daddy god loved each other very much. (In a more serious tone: nobody knows.)

4. I agree with IRHP. People evolved in order to survive and get...comfortable around their environment. If we place a person from the 1400's into today's society, do you think he will suffer from a culture shock so severe that he doesn't know what the hell to think?

5. You have been watching too much Dragon Ball Z.

6. Why the hell would you kick a stone in the first place?

7. Dude, it's a figure of speech.

8. God is neither male nor female. We give a gender to things basically because we are so used to calling things a male or a female. It's a labeling that us humans do.

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Old 01-13-2009, 11:30 AM   #9
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Incidentally, I have an idea about the whole 'what made God' thing.

Okay. It's commonly accepted that, in the beginning, there was nothing but God. Then God spoke, and everything sprang into being. Sound good so far? Good.

Now, the rest of this is all conjecture, so your mileage may vary. Suppose that it wasn't just the matter that God willed into being--suppose it was the vacuum as well. Imagine that, when God spoke, the very spatial dimensions themselves unfurled. It sounds wonky, but it stands to reason--create the real estate before you build the house, you know?

Here's the leap--if God created the spatial dimensions as we recognise them, might it not follow that God created the temporal dimension as well? Might time as we reckon it not have begun at God's word?

Just an idea. I'm not saying it's what happened--it's all a mental exercise. But, like I say, it sounds possible. And it would answer the 'what made God/what came before God' deal--nothing came before God, because there was no 'before God' time period.
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Ooh, ooh, I wanna answer these questions too!

1. In that sense, all the angels would be God's children, making Satan his son. Damn rebellious son of his!

2. I killed your puppy. Don't you feel hurt? Too bad you shouldn't care about the evil I just did.

3. He divided by zero.

4. Y'know, as an atheist, I still don't see anywhere in the Bible about God saying evolution is a lie.

5. Probably the same reason you accidentally a Coca-Cola bottle.

6. Because you're too weak, obviously.

7. Om nom nom pass the God sauce.

8. It's easier to refer to God as male since he got it on with Mary.

OH SHI-

SIDING WITH THE RELIGIOUS ONES
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1. We are "created in his image", not directly "sons of god".


2. The church. I agree that the concept of original sin is stupid tho.

3. Why did the big bang happen? nobody can answer either of these questions and we never will.

4. Because the garden of eden is a old mythic explanation that has never been updated and alot of dumb people hang onto it for some reason. God set up the physics and laws of the universe that makes everything work, including evolution. so there.

5. hmm yase, i too enjoy assuming abstract concepts work exactly like real life

6. see number 5

7. see number 5

8. only stupid people actually demand that god be male. logic suggests that he would have no gender, but again abstract concepts

E: in retrospect i should probably just go 1-8: abstract concepts just because.

EE: metaphysical is probably the wrong word here too maybe. you get what i mean.

EEE: Abstract concepts. Replace metaphysical with abstract. brain fart there.

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Old 01-13-2009, 05:45 PM   #12
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I'm not Christian, but I'll take a shot at it.

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1. We are all sons and daughters of 'God' right? then why does it say that god gave his 'one and only son' for our sins?
We are not 'sons and daughters', we are children.

2. Who the **** cares if we have sins?
God does.

3. Where the h*ll is this 'Almighty' God supposed to have come from anyway?
The bowels of chaos.

4. If God created us, why the h*ll do we have proof of evolving?
He created monkeys first, then he slowly turned us into humans.

5. If God is everything, then why am not the almighty awesome all powerful being?
It says, "God is everything", not, "everything is God".

6. If God is everything (part 2) then why dont i hear screams when i kick rocks or light things on fire.
God is too awesome to scream.

7. If God is everything (part 3) then do i eat bits of God everyday?
That depends on your diet.

8. How is God a guy? Woman, after all, are those whom create beings.
Men create beings, too, just in a different way: look up sperm.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:32 PM   #13
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for the whole sperm thing: men still could not make babies. without woman there could be no men.

Now then, as for the rest of you, i enjoyed reading all of your answers. Now that we have reviewed religion, its time for Spanish Class! Arribah!
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A woman can't create a child on her own, either. To say that one sex is more important to a process in which both sexes are essential is silly.
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Incorrect, Boo.

Brine Shrip (Marketed name sea monkeys) have two genders, male and female, but the females are capable of producing life by themselves in the summer. But, no gender is better than the other, that is all.

Just a little FYI. XD
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I only had to look at your first question to know that you don't really know much about Religion.

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Here's a good question to the OP:

Have you ever perused the bible before typing up these questions? I don't mean skim the bible and look for the interesting things and whatnot...but picked it up and read it and made sure every page was unturned.
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watch Religulous, very interesting points that I was trying to get across but failed to do so with. I mean, not mine EXACTLY, but what I was trying to do.... Idk, just watch the movie.

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^ I wuz gunna say that last part (in a less sophisticated manner). But I tend to piss people off (she already called me a douche).
yes, I did call you such. However, when I say it it is basically meaningless, I always call people one if they do something the least bit wrong in my visualization, for typing 'douche' is fun. It is a funny word. For example, me calling you a douche at the time that I did would be like you calling me one without imagination, since I failed to believe in the creativity of God.

Now allow me to place this in the simplest form possible for me to try and get my point across: God is a figmant of one's imagination to compensate for what one has no knowlege of. Us humans want answers on how and why everything is, so we create the fictionallities of greater beings and such. It is just people who want to think they do know all the answers to feel a sense of accomplishment and understanding. It is also a device to enstill hope in one's hearts that if you pray to this 'god' then he will help you with the troubles that you have, and that if you are ever in trouble then you know there is this awesome power above to help guide you through mishaps. Also, it makes death easier because you believe you will be going to a better place as long as you were good.

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