"Liberty" University bans college Democrats

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-24-2009, 09:01 AM

So this is the conservatives' idea of "academic freedom?" If this were, say, NYU and it banned the college Republicans, the right wing would come down HARD proclaiming censorship (and rightly so).

Here is the text of the email sent to the guy who runs the Liberty Democrats.

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Even though this club may not support the more radical planks of the democratic party, the democratic party is still the parent organization of the club on campus. The Democratic Party Platform is contrary to the mission of LU and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the "LGBT" agenda, Hate Crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc). The candidates this club supports uphold the Platform and implement it. The candidates supported are directly contrary to the mission of LU. By using LU or Liberty University and Democrat in the name, the two are associated and the goals of both run in opposite directions.

What about the Christian Doctrine which opposes the Death Penalty (or at least trigger-happy cowboyism like use of it), war profiteering (those of you who oppose abortion as an "intrinsic evil" should consider this act to be just as intrinsically evil), and supports free healthcare for innocent children who are born at the very least (in fact, some hope babies of promiscuous mothers should be born with (and die of) AIDS as an "object of lesson" to the mother), support more sustainable energy policies, supports the ending of genocide in places like Darfur, etc. -CSM

Kil'jaeden · 05-24-2009, 12:05 PM

It's only persecution when the other guys do it.

***Booyakasha*** · 05-24-2009, 12:22 PM

Do I get to ask why liberal democrats are attending Jerry Falwell's fundamentalist Christian university in the first place, or is context unwelcome here?

Bomby · 05-24-2009, 03:18 PM

Considering that Jesus was a communist...

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-24-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Booyakasha

Do I get to ask why liberal democrats are attending Jerry Falwell's fundamentalist Christian university in the first place, or is context unwelcome here?

Maybe ones that oppose abortion and gay marriage, but also support the entire rest of the Christian doctrine outside sexual issues (which just happens to be on the liberal democratic side). -CSM

***Cosmonautical*** · 05-24-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomby

Considering that Jesus was a communist...

Not in the minds of these folks. Rather than "Love thy neighbor," it was more like "Love thy neighbor, but only if he does what you want him to." Or maybe even more like "Screw those guys if they can't support themselves independently."

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-24-2009, 08:33 PM

Jesus was a don't-be-a-douchebag-ist, a philosophy which, if everyone followed it, would result in the wild success of communism, socialism, capitalism, imperialism, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, anarchy, & any other possible sociological, economic, or socio-economic system you can think of.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-24-2009, 11:57 PM

The Conservapedia fanatics are actually trying to retranslate the Bible so all the social justice messages it contains are chucked out. -CSM

Bomby · 05-25-2009, 01:13 AM

I really want to believe that Conservapedia is a joke...

**Valigarmander** · 05-25-2009, 01:51 AM

^ Everybody does, Bomby.

Sometimes it's just best for you if you pretend like it is.

Bomby · 05-25-2009, 01:53 AM

I have a hard enough time pretending that Jet Li wasn't really in Mummy 3.

Maximum Spider · 05-25-2009, 07:39 AM

Why is it that conservatives are under the delusional belief that everything they say is right?

Probably still upset that McCain lost....

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-25-2009, 08:01 AM

^They use language like "we stay true to our principles" to grant themselves immunity from admitting they made mistakes. -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 05-25-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximum Spider

Why is it that conservatives are under the delusional belief that everything they say is right?

Because EVERYBODY IS.

Kil'jaeden · 05-25-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

The Conservapedia fanatics are actually trying to retranslate the Bible so all the social justice messages it contains are chucked out. -CSM

Original
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'"-Matthew 19:23-24

New Version:
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is easy for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Heaven is not for lazy poor people.'"-Matthew 19:23-24

Original
"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'"-Matthew 19:21

New Version
"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, invest your riches and make more wealth. Do not wander in the land, clad in sandals, a robe, with a staff, begging alms and preaching. Be a productive member of the economy, not a vagabond.'"-Matthew 19:21

Original
"If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered."
-Proverbs 21:13

New Version:
"If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he is being just in refusing to be an enabler of their idle ways." -Proverbs 21:13

Are these plausible examples of the stuff they want to "edit"?

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-26-2009, 06:00 AM

^LOL, I have no idea. But one thing they do want to do is get rid of the adultress story because it can be interpreted as an anti-death penalty stance. -CSM

heh · 05-26-2009, 02:41 PM

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quote:

"behemoth"
Job 40:15-24
Although evolutionists deny that men and dinosaurs coexisted, they are unable to provide proof of such a hypothesis. It is probable that the 'behemoth' was what we now call a dinosaur.

replace "behemoth" with "dinosaur"

quote:

"kill" "Thou shalt not kill"
Exodus 20.13 (KJV)

In Biblical times, as today, the bearing of arms to defend ones family and society was the hallmark of Judeo-Christian civilization. The commandment referred to unjustifiable homicides - murder and manslaughter - rather than advocating blanket pacifism, as many Leftists today interpret it.

replace "kill" with "commit murder" depending on the original text and the context - it'd not be sensible to use murder in the context of an animal doing it, for instance!

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"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 19:24)

nearly everyone is "abundantly supplied" today with food and entertainment, and "rich" has come to mean relative wealth without any absolute significance; continued use of "rich" is misleading in justifying laziness and socialism

"fully fed and entertained" or "idle miser," or something similar.

these are all from conservapedia

also i like how "everyone" means "americans" in that last one

edit: reminder that jesus was black

Lurch1982 · 05-26-2009, 02:53 PM

^Actually, that's been the basic interpretation of "Don't kill" for a long time, even as far back as the Old Testament and the reconquering of the Holy Land.

As per the main topic:

The only surprise is that it took them this long to do this. They probably don't have a GLBT group on campus either, and I doubt their law school has PILG, an ACLU or the NLG.

**Valigarmander** · 05-26-2009, 06:12 PM

^^ I rage every time a conservative claims there's anything less than a multitude of evidence supporting evolution. They have to be either lying or ignoring it.

I am nobody · 05-26-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ghoul

^^ I rage every time a conservative claims there's anything less than a multitude of evidence supporting evolution. They have to be either lying or ignoring it.

They just twist it. They take one instance where radioactive dating was wrong and claim it means all of it is wrong. They originally claimed dinosaur skeletons were made from pig bones (not kidding), now claim that the early human skeletons were made from pig bones (also not kidding). They claim that aquatic fossils that appear to have been killed suddenly are proof of the flood, etc.

The stuff they twist to explain dinosaurs is the worst. Every time another fossil turns up to shoot down their last "theory" they just come up with another one that ignores a little more evidence and logic than the last.

05-24-2009, 12:05 PM	#2
Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	It's only persecution when the other guys do it.

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*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	Do I get to ask why liberal democrats are attending Jerry Falwell's fundamentalist Christian university in the first place, or is context unwelcome here?

05-24-2009, 03:18 PM	#4
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Considering that Jesus was a communist...

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*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Jesus was a don't-be-a-douchebag-ist, a philosophy which, if everyone followed it, would result in the wild success of communism, socialism, capitalism, imperialism, democracy, oligarchy, monarchy, anarchy, & any other possible sociological, economic, or socio-economic system you can think of. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	The Conservapedia fanatics are actually trying to retranslate the Bible so all the social justice messages it contains are chucked out. -CSM

05-25-2009, 01:13 AM	#9
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I really want to believe that Conservapedia is a joke...

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Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^ Everybody does, Bomby. Sometimes it's just best for you if you pretend like it is.

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Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I have a hard enough time pretending that Jet Li wasn't really in Mummy 3.

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Maximum Spider Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I'll take Street Fighter over Dragonball any day. Gender: Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 0 Thanked 191 Times in 126 Posts	Why is it that conservatives are under the delusional belief that everything they say is right? Probably still upset that McCain lost....

05-25-2009, 08:01 AM	#13
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^They use language like "we stay true to our principles" to grant themselves immunity from admitting they made mistakes. -CSM

05-26-2009, 06:00 AM	#16
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^LOL, I have no idea. But one thing they do want to do is get rid of the adultress story because it can be interpreted as an anti-death penalty stance. -CSM

05-26-2009, 02:53 PM	#18
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: DenCo Gender: Posts: 9,850 Thanks: 127 Thanked 365 Times in 192 Posts	^Actually, that's been the basic interpretation of "Don't kill" for a long time, even as far back as the Old Testament and the reconquering of the Holy Land. As per the main topic: The only surprise is that it took them this long to do this. They probably don't have a GLBT group on campus either, and I doubt their law school has PILG, an ACLU or the NLG.

05-26-2009, 06:12 PM	#19
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^^ I rage every time a conservative claims there's anything less than a multitude of evidence supporting evolution. They have to be either lying or ignoring it.