Dear Catastrophe White House

Bomby · 06-10-2009, 10:27 PM

Stop threatening Iran and North Korea. You know as well as I that they aren't going to use nukes, even if they acquire them. Why is that? Need I explain? If either of them use nukes, you have enough nukes to flatten both of the nations - 15 times! If they're smart enough to develop nukes, they're smart enough to know that.

The only reason they want nuclear technology is because they're scared of you - and they have every right to be, especially after your pointless crusade in Iraq. You might think you're the "good guy" and that you're just "protecting your citizens," but to most of the world, you're just a bully.

So please stop pissing off Iran and North Korea. You're just exacerbating the whole situation.

Sincerely,
Bomby von Bombsville

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-10-2009, 11:24 PM

We need to confront Ahmadinejad and Kim-Jong Il directly. If we just isolate them they will just hate us even more. If we go to war with either of them World War III will break out. We need to send someone to meet with them unconditionally and tell them to their faces what they need to do to save not only their enemies, but their own people as well. North Korea is the single biggest violator of human rights of any government in the world (it's essentially feudalism in North Korea), and Ahmadinejad is the most prominent neo-Nazi in the world (although to be fair, he doesn't have the last word in Iran; the Ayatollahs have the last word there, and I think part of him is just trying to lick their butts). -CSM

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-11-2009, 07:40 AM

Americans should have something to be afraid of, IMO. Then they can put themselves in the rest of the world's shoes.

Bomby · 06-11-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

We need to confront Ahmadinejad and Kim-Jong Il directly. If we just isolate them they will just hate us even more. If we go to war with either of them World War III will break out. We need to send someone to meet with them unconditionally and tell them to their faces what they need to do to save not only their enemies, but their own people as well. North Korea is the single biggest violator of human rights of any government in the world (it's essentially feudalism in North Korea), and Ahmadinejad is the most prominent neo-Nazi in the world (although to be fair, he doesn't have the last word in Iran; the Ayatollahs have the last word there, and I think part of him is just trying to lick their butts). -CSM

I'm pretty sure that in the case of North Korea, they want to be isolated. Yes, their human rights record sucks, but it's the responsibility of the people of North Korea to overthrow their own government, assuming that's even what they actually want. If there's an uprising and the revolutionary side needs help, that's a different case, but it appears at this time, there's no major revolutionary movement.

As for Ahmandinejad, he's a joke. He can talk all he wants, but as you said yourself, it's the Ayatollahs who have the power. He's a barking dog with no bite.

**Deku Trii** · 06-11-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomby

I'm pretty sure that in the case of North Korea, they want to be isolated. Yes, their human rights record sucks, but it's the responsibility of the people of North Korea to overthrow their own government, assuming that's even what they actually want. If there's an uprising and the revolutionary side needs help, that's a different case, but it appears at this time, there's no major revolutionary movement.

Reminds me of that episode of Superman where he beats Darkseid to the verge of death and then his little minions carry him off because, on that planet, Darkseid is regarded as a god.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-11-2009, 12:49 PM

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If they're smart enough to develop nukes, they're smart enough to know that.

Well, if the scientists were also the generals, that would be true.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

t3hDarkness · 06-11-2009, 01:13 PM

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Americans should have something to be afraid of, IMO. Then they can put themselves in the rest of the world's shoes.

America is already afraid of so many invisible enemies that we could never take real ones seriously.

Metal Man · 06-11-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomby

*Snip

Dear catastrophe poster,

You aren't likely to listen if addressed this way, are you? But now, let me tell you how to deal with your problems.

Now I haven't been watching your life often, but those people who bother you? You just ignore them, while they threaten to kill you. They're be 3 feet shorter than you and one of them is missing their left arm, so who cares? I'm sure if they try something it'll never have any bad effect on you ever. Not even a nuisance.

Even as they hurl rocks which come dangerously close to you and try to incite other, more violent people to hit you... nah. They're not important. Confronting them is wrong. Just turn your back on them. I'm sure it will make them stop doing these things. After all, all people know when to give up and most certainly won't become more desperate for your attention when ignored.

Sincerely,
Pretentious Signing of Post

Bomby · 06-11-2009, 02:12 PM

I guess I should've stated that there's a line between "confronting" and "threatening." It's not that the government should be ignoring NK and Iran altogether, but they're going about it wrong.

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-11-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by t3hDarkness

America is already afraid of so many invisible enemies that we could never take real ones seriously.

There is truth in that statement.

**Valigarmander** · 06-12-2009, 12:50 AM

I'm moving to Canada.

Metal Man · 06-12-2009, 12:58 AM

Canada's govt is an unholy mess right now, and is ruled by conservatives at the moment, so that'd be counterproductive for you.

**Valigarmander** · 06-12-2009, 01:01 AM

ANTARCTICA.

Speed · 06-12-2009, 02:42 AM

Kim Jong is just a four year old with a nation's military at his disposal.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-12-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomby

I'm pretty sure that in the case of North Korea, they want to be isolated. Yes, their human rights record sucks, but it's the responsibility of the people of North Korea to overthrow their own government, assuming that's even what they actually want. If there's an uprising and the revolutionary side needs help, that's a different case, but it appears at this time, there's no major revolutionary movement.

As for Ahmandinejad, he's a joke. He can talk all he wants, but as you said yourself, it's the Ayatollahs who have the power. He's a barking dog with no bite.

Then why is the media using Ahmadinejad as a scapegoat and not the Ayatollahs? Also, as for North Korea, the government uproots and moves people at their own pleasure, so any effective rebellion is extremely difficult. -CSM

Kargath · 06-12-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Valigarmander

ANTARCTICA.

Welcome to Australian territory!

I am nobody · 06-13-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Then why is the media using Ahmadinejad as a scapegoat and not the Ayatollahs? Also, as for North Korea, the government uproots and moves people at their own pleasure, so any effective rebellion is extremely difficult. -CSM

That's media for you. They could tell us that The Supreme Leader (Ali Khamenei) is actually sane and has issued a fatwa calling nukes immoral (true, could be lying. But that would be the biggest scandal ever), but they aren't going to. The story wouldn't be as interesting if they stopped pretending Ahmadinejad was the leader. >_>

Kil'jaeden · 06-13-2009, 06:28 PM

Why would it matter if North Korea got one nuclear warhead? The American arsenal alone would make the surface of the Earth uninhabitable. No one wins there.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-13-2009, 11:48 PM

^The difference: Our commanders-in-chief since 1994 can be best described as "horny", "dim", & "Obama", respectively. North Korea's commander-in-chief since 1994 can be best described as "looney-toons." Guess which is more likely to fire a nuke without provocation?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

I am nobody · 06-14-2009, 05:51 AM

^Guess which already threatened to use nukes in a "merciless offensive" if provoked?

06-10-2009, 10:27 PM	#1
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Dear Catastrophe White House Stop threatening Iran and North Korea. You know as well as I that they aren't going to use nukes, even if they acquire them. Why is that? Need I explain? If either of them use nukes, you have enough nukes to flatten both of the nations - 15 times! If they're smart enough to develop nukes, they're smart enough to know that. The only reason they want nuclear technology is because they're scared of you - and they have every right to be, especially after your pointless crusade in Iraq. You might think you're the "good guy" and that you're just "protecting your citizens," but to most of the world, you're just a bully. So please stop pissing off Iran and North Korea. You're just exacerbating the whole situation. Sincerely, Bomby von Bombsville

06-10-2009, 11:24 PM	#2
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	We need to confront Ahmadinejad and Kim-Jong Il directly. If we just isolate them they will just hate us even more. If we go to war with either of them World War III will break out. We need to send someone to meet with them unconditionally and tell them to their faces what they need to do to save not only their enemies, but their own people as well. North Korea is the single biggest violator of human rights of any government in the world (it's essentially feudalism in North Korea), and Ahmadinejad is the most prominent neo-Nazi in the world (although to be fair, he doesn't have the last word in Iran; the Ayatollahs have the last word there, and I think part of him is just trying to lick their butts). -CSM

06-11-2009, 07:40 AM	#3
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Americans should have something to be afraid of, IMO. Then they can put themselves in the rest of the world's shoes.

06-11-2009, 02:12 PM	#9
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I guess I should've stated that there's a line between "confronting" and "threatening." It's not that the government should be ignoring NK and Iran altogether, but they're going about it wrong.

06-12-2009, 12:50 AM	#11
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I'm moving to Canada.

06-12-2009, 12:58 AM	#12
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Canada's govt is an unholy mess right now, and is ruled by conservatives at the moment, so that'd be counterproductive for you.

06-12-2009, 01:01 AM	#13
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	ANTARCTICA.

06-12-2009, 02:42 AM	#14
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Kim Jong is just a four year old with a nation's military at his disposal.

06-13-2009, 06:28 PM	#18
Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	Why would it matter if North Korea got one nuclear warhead? The American arsenal alone would make the surface of the Earth uninhabitable. No one wins there.

06-13-2009, 11:48 PM	#19
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^The difference: Our commanders-in-chief since 1994 can be best described as "horny", "dim", & "Obama", respectively. North Korea's commander-in-chief since 1994 can be best described as "looney-toons." Guess which is more likely to fire a nuke without provocation? And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

06-14-2009, 05:51 AM	#20
I am nobody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Over there. Gender: Posts: 5,515 Thanks: 309 Thanked 365 Times in 242 Posts Blog Entries: 7	^Guess which already threatened to use nukes in a "merciless offensive" if provoked?