I hope now mainstream conservatives will realize that report isn't targetting them.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-10-2009, 11:28 PM

First George Tiller, then William Long, now this.

THESE are the right-wing extremists that were in Janet Napolitano's report. People such as anti-abortion militants, Muslim fundamentalists, and neo-Nazis. If mainstream conservatives whine about the report, they're grouping themselves with these murderers, which I'm sure they don't want to do (it will only hurt them). -CSM

John Galt · 06-11-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

First George Tiller, then William Long, now this.

THESE are the right-wing extremists that were in Janet Napolitano's report. People such as anti-abortion militants, Muslim fundamentalists, and neo-Nazis. If mainstream conservatives whine about the report, they're grouping themselves with these murderers, which I'm sure they don't want to do (it will only hurt them). -CSM

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The report was issued to target right-wing extremists. This means groups like Stormfront, Aryan Nations, Operation Rescue, Militia groups, Minutement, and other groups that support violence. It does NOT target groups like Focus on the Family or the NRA. Let me ask you: do you want to be associated with groups like Aryan Nations or the KKK? Because when conservatives whine about the report that's what they sound like. -CSM

The Minutemen, Operation Rescue and most militia groups do not openly support violence of any kind. Like any other group, they have kooks who join the ranks. You cannot judge an entire organization by some psychotic individuals.

Case in point, there is an Afghan family who lives in my home town. Talk about a fundamentalist Muslim family. They're decent people though - they work hard and mind their own business. I don't think it's fair to put them on some kind of a watch list just because they don't fit the mainstream stereotype.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-11-2009, 04:08 PM

^You're probably right, but the founder of Operation Rescue said this:

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I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you... I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism.

He also disowned his adopted son when he found out his son was gay. And Minutemen affiliated organizations in California often vandalize immigrant camps and the upper eschelons never condemned the violence.

Nevertheless, the point is groups that are clearly not radical extremists shouldn't put themselves in the same boat as radical extremists. -CSM

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-11-2009, 04:18 PM

^ That is a pretty crazy quote. Kinda sounds like a video game villain or something.

Ah, I know what it sounds like: A Babidi quote from DBZ.

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-11-2009, 04:49 PM

^I was thinking Palpatine, actually, especially the "wave of hatred" part.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-11-2009, 04:54 PM

Well, just the construction of the sentence, what with the "..." and all, kinda sounds like a mindcontrolling chant.

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-11-2009, 10:46 PM

God: he wants you to be smothered in a wave of hate.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-12-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

^I was thinking Palpatine, actually, especially the "wave of hatred" part.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

With a lot of these conservatives, I think this quote from Ben Kenobi accurately describes them:

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Originally Posted by Benjamin "Obi-Wan" Kenobi

Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must.

-CSM

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-12-2009, 11:41 PM

Yeah, but Obi-Wan is a known liar, never mind the inherent paradox of a non-Sith saying "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

John Galt · 06-13-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Nevertheless, the point is groups that are clearly not radical extremists shouldn't put themselves in the same boat as radical extremists.

Depends on your definition of "radical extremist".

KKK member=wacko extremist.
Ron Paul supporter=concerned citizen.

The reason I bring this up is that a few months ago, Ron Paul supporters were deemed to be "radical extremists" by some organization in Missouri.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-13-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

Yeah, but Obi-Wan is a known liar, never mind the inherent paradox of a non-Sith saying "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

How is that paradoxical? I'm not sure I have a complete grasp on the meaning of the word in the first place, but I dun understand.

LinkManDX · 06-13-2009, 04:37 PM

Points of view don't make people extremists, wanting to kill/harm because of them does.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-13-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sampson1986

Depends on your definition of "radical extremist".

KKK member=wacko extremist.
Ron Paul supporter=concerned citizen.

The reason I bring this up is that a few months ago, Ron Paul supporters were deemed to be "radical extremists" by some organization in Missouri.

I don't think Ron Paul supporters are radical extremists; I'm sure they're not. I don't understand them enough to categorize them, but although I'm sure some are extremists (as are some supporters of everyone, including supporters of nonviolence and moderation), I'm sure most of them aren't.

Capt: Remember, Ben is also the master of mind tricks. -CSM

***CaptHayfever*** · 06-13-2009, 11:50 PM

^^^The sentence "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" is an absolute statement.

^^Very yes.

^I'm a Sicilian; mind tricks don't work on me, only money.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

heh · 06-13-2009, 11:55 PM

ron paul supporters literally live in their own fantasy universe.

**Deku Trii** · 06-14-2009, 12:03 AM

Literally? That sounds pretty sweet.

heh · 06-14-2009, 12:08 AM

yeah its called somalia except in america and everyone is white and all money is gold

Demonicus Prime · 06-14-2009, 12:42 AM

Somalia =/= Kentucky.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-14-2009, 03:01 PM

Ah, so you're right. I see it now.

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-19-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

06-10-2009, 11:28 PM	#1
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	I hope now mainstream conservatives will realize that report isn't targetting them. First George Tiller, then William Long, now this. THESE are the right-wing extremists that were in Janet Napolitano's report. People such as anti-abortion militants, Muslim fundamentalists, and neo-Nazis. If mainstream conservatives whine about the report, they're grouping themselves with these murderers, which I'm sure they don't want to do (it will only hurt them). -CSM

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I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ That is a pretty crazy quote. Kinda sounds like a video game villain or something. Ah, I know what it sounds like: A Babidi quote from DBZ. Last edited by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!; 06-11-2009 at 04:53 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^I was thinking Palpatine, actually, especially the "wave of hatred" part. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Well, just the construction of the sentence, what with the "..." and all, kinda sounds like a mindcontrolling chant.

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*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	God: he wants you to be smothered in a wave of hate.

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*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Yeah, but Obi-Wan is a known liar, never mind the inherent paradox of a non-Sith saying "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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LinkManDX Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Because political usernames ftw Gender: Posts: 3,582 Thanks: 297 Thanked 266 Times in 156 Posts	Points of view don't make people extremists, wanting to kill/harm because of them does.

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*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^^^The sentence "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" is an absolute statement. ^^Very yes. ^I'm a Sicilian; mind tricks don't work on me, only money. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	ron paul supporters literally live in their own fantasy universe.

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Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	Literally? That sounds pretty sweet.

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heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	yeah its called somalia except in america and everyone is white and all money is gold

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Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 3,108 Thanks: 648 Thanked 129 Times in 87 Posts	Somalia =/= Kentucky.

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I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Ah, so you're right. I see it now.