"Should food be a basic human right?"

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-09-2009, 05:39 PM

Think Progress » Right winger’s argument against a right to health care: ‘Should food be a basic human right?’

Apparently this Republican commentator doesn't think so. Even though I am 99% sure food IS a basic human right. It's even listed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, but then again, to conservatives, the UN is an anti-American organization bent on stopping America's right to rule the world as we see fit, right? -CSM

Maximum Spider · 07-09-2009, 05:46 PM

Maybe next Republican National Convention I should go there just eating some chocolate cake.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-09-2009, 06:00 PM

I do think that everyone is entitled to enough of what it is they need in order to survive at the lowest level. Health care, food, and shelter.

Even while trying to keep aid to a minimum, the risk of dependence is always there, which is obviously something that needs to be avoided as much as possible.

ZeldaGirl · 07-09-2009, 06:02 PM

Jillian Bandes is known for being an unintelligent, inflammatory asshat. This is nothing new.

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-09-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

I do think that everyone is entitled to enough of what it is they need in order to survive at the lowest level. Health care, food, and shelter.

Even while trying to keep aid to a minimum, the risk of dependence is always there, which is obviously something that needs to be avoided as much as possible.

People should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, and the government should provide those bootstraps.

ZG: I heard she got kicked off the Daily Tar Heel for advocating racial profiling. Do you know anything else about her? -CSM

Kil'jaeden · 07-09-2009, 07:56 PM

Well, living is a human right, so if you need food to live, that would be one too.

ZeldaGirl · 07-09-2009, 07:57 PM

^^She wasn't fired for advocating racial profiling - yes, the article in question did just that, but being an opinion piece, she was well within her (misguided) rights to do so.

She was fired for speaking to Arabic students at her schools and intentionally misleading them in their interviews to get quotations from them which she could then use in the piece to support her point of view (she said that they advocated racial profiling as well, or made some kind of statement that would imply that they supported her position). In other words, she was fired for breaching journalistic integrity; she abused her sources, took quotations out of context to purposefully distort them, and misled her interviewees.

Kil'jaeden · 07-09-2009, 08:12 PM

Funny how some people say they are against public healthcare because it would put it all into the hands of bureaucrats. And who runs it now? Insurance company bureaucracy.

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-09-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeldaGirl

In other words, she was fired for breaching journalistic integrity; she abused her sources, took quotations out of context to purposefully distort them, and misled her interviewees.

Sounds like a top-dog job for Fox News. -CSM

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-09-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

People should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, and the government should provide those bootstraps. -CSM

So you essentially agree with me, I guess?

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-09-2009, 09:32 PM

^Yeah. But if you can prove you're doing well, the government has an obligation to do what it takes to keep you alive. -CSM

Bomby · 07-09-2009, 11:03 PM

no food isnt a basic human rite becuze thats socailism and were america and we dont do socailism becuse its rong becuz the foundin fathers sed no socailism.

**Deku Trii** · 07-09-2009, 11:22 PM

I'm pretty satisfied with the way the US handles feeding its poor. Not too hard-ass, not too "subsidize laziness."

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-10-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomby

no food isnt a basic human rite becuze thats socailism and were america and we dont do socailism becuse its rong becuz the foundin fathers sed no socailism.

I would only consider feeding the poor to be socialism if they were fed steak and potatoes, rather than ramen. A cup of noodles is cheaper than disposing of a body in any case.

Zharen · 07-10-2009, 10:15 PM

I love how even the host of the show gave Julian a "WTF" look in the middle of the interview.

**Crazyswordsman** · 07-10-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

I would only consider feeding the poor to be socialism if they were fed steak and potatoes, rather than ramen. A cup of noodles is cheaper than disposing of a body in any case.

What if private individuals provided the steak and potatoes?

-CSM

Jesus · 07-11-2009, 01:16 AM

She's still not as bad as Rush Limbaugh. But republicans are people who will lie to their benefit and lie so much that they will actually start believing the crap they spit out.

Demonicus Prime · 07-11-2009, 11:09 AM

^^I then would have to question where the individual could get that much beef and that many potatoes for the charity to be anywhere near fair.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-11-2009, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

I would only consider feeding the poor to be socialism if they were fed steak and potatoes, rather than ramen. A cup of noodles is cheaper than disposing of a body in any case.

Heard it here first, folks. Steaks are socialist.

Eagle Eye · 07-11-2009, 01:40 PM

Republican ideology is not a bad ideology, and it's probably better than Democratic ideology.

99% of Republicans don't follow their own ideology.

07-09-2009, 05:39 PM	#1
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	"Should food be a basic human right?" Think Progress » Right winger’s argument against a right to health care: ‘Should food be a basic human right?’ Apparently this Republican commentator doesn't think so. Even though I am 99% sure food IS a basic human right. It's even listed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, but then again, to conservatives, the UN is an anti-American organization bent on stopping America's right to rule the world as we see fit, right? -CSM

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Maximum Spider Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I'll take Street Fighter over Dragonball any day. Gender: Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 0 Thanked 191 Times in 126 Posts	Maybe next Republican National Convention I should go there just eating some chocolate cake.

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I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I do think that everyone is entitled to enough of what it is they need in order to survive at the lowest level. Health care, food, and shelter. Even while trying to keep aid to a minimum, the risk of dependence is always there, which is obviously something that needs to be avoided as much as possible.

07-09-2009, 06:02 PM	#4
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Jillian Bandes is known for being an unintelligent, inflammatory asshat. This is nothing new.

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Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	Well, living is a human right, so if you need food to live, that would be one too.

07-09-2009, 07:57 PM	#7
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	^^She wasn't fired for advocating racial profiling - yes, the article in question did just that, but being an opinion piece, she was well within her (misguided) rights to do so. She was fired for speaking to Arabic students at her schools and intentionally misleading them in their interviews to get quotations from them which she could then use in the piece to support her point of view (she said that they advocated racial profiling as well, or made some kind of statement that would imply that they supported her position). In other words, she was fired for breaching journalistic integrity; she abused her sources, took quotations out of context to purposefully distort them, and misled her interviewees.

07-09-2009, 08:12 PM	#8
Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	Funny how some people say they are against public healthcare because it would put it all into the hands of bureaucrats. And who runs it now? Insurance company bureaucracy.

07-09-2009, 09:32 PM	#11
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Yeah. But if you can prove you're doing well, the government has an obligation to do what it takes to keep you alive. -CSM

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Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	no food isnt a basic human rite becuze thats socailism and were america and we dont do socailism becuse its rong becuz the foundin fathers sed no socailism.

07-09-2009, 11:22 PM	#13
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	I'm pretty satisfied with the way the US handles feeding its poor. Not too hard-ass, not too "subsidize laziness."

07-10-2009, 10:15 PM	#15
Zharen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Modesto, CA U.S. Gender: Posts: 7,085 Thanks: 21 Thanked 71 Times in 35 Posts	I love how even the host of the show gave Julian a "WTF" look in the middle of the interview.

07-11-2009, 01:16 AM	#17
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	She's still not as bad as Rush Limbaugh. But republicans are people who will lie to their benefit and lie so much that they will actually start believing the crap they spit out.

07-11-2009, 11:09 AM	#18
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 3,108 Thanks: 648 Thanked 129 Times in 87 Posts	^^I then would have to question where the individual could get that much beef and that many potatoes for the charity to be anywhere near fair.

07-11-2009, 01:40 PM	#20
Eagle Eye Diddy bops Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 15,014 Thanks: 1,616 Thanked 1,084 Times in 597 Posts	Republican ideology is not a bad ideology, and it's probably better than Democratic ideology. 99% of Republicans don't follow their own ideology.