Gay marriage ads get similar and use fear.

Jesus · 10-22-2009, 11:40 AM

The same ineffective ad used in California is being used here in Maine. I am for equal rights and gay marriage (no i'm not gay but I support equal rights).

I don't know where California's ad on youtube is but here's Maines 2 million dollar ad.

Click to view video.

Uhh what the ****?

The lies in that ad make me upset too. That family didn't ask for the right to pull their kid out of class. They filed a class action suit against the school demanding millions of dollars in so called "damages". The lawsuit was dismissed because "diversity is a great landmark of our great nation". It's all a fear campaign. This question 1 campaign ISN'T ABOUT BEING ABLE TO TEACH GAY MARRIAGE IN CLASSROOMS BUT TO LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE FOR MAINE CITEZINS!

Notice that they don't give you the name of the school that Charla Bansley (The lady in the anti-gay marriage ad for Maine). This is because she works at Calvary Chapel Christian School in Orrington and if they put that up there it would discredit what the fearmongerers are trying to push out. Calvary Chapel Christian School in Orrington is a ****ing private CHRISTIAN school!!!!!!! Does anyone get what I'm saying? It's come down to bringing a new law in to make gay marriage illegal and it is using LIES and DECEPTION.

Microphone_Kirby · 10-22-2009, 10:25 PM

... I think the title says all I want to say; "Gay marriage ads get similar and use fear.

Or simply: What's new?

Metal Mario · 10-22-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus

I am for equal rights and gay marriage (no i'm not gay but I support equal rights).

It's interesting how everyone who supports gay marriage seems to feel the need to qualify that they are absolutely, 100% not gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with it, of course.

Metal Man · 10-22-2009, 11:17 PM

Mormons flooded our state and stole the vote in our case.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same there.

Jerks.

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-23-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Mario

It's interesting how everyone who supports gay marriage seems to feel the need to qualify that they are absolutely, 100% not gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with it, of course.

Maybe he didn't want anyone to make assumptions about his social character, regardless.

My school never taught about marriage, for straights or gays. Funny that.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-23-2009, 09:14 AM

^^I don't know if it's Mormons in Maine's case, but yes, the vast majority of the money to ban gay marriage from Maine is coming from out of state. A few months ago I read that despite the anti-gays outspending the pro-gays by double, only $400 dollars of the anti-gay budget came from within Maine, whereas $80,000 of the pro-gay money came from within Maine. -CSM

Jesus · 10-23-2009, 10:51 AM

^And that is what upsets me the most. Note how the Maine Ad I posted at the beginning has the hurried panicky music and doesn't say anywhere that it will ban gay marriage. It's all deception by the anti-gay marriage people.

Metal Mario · 10-23-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Man

Mormons flooded our state and stole the vote in our case.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same there.

Jerks.

Funny how the Mormons get all the blame, yet California is heavily populated with blacks and Latinos, all of whom are Christian. Can't blame them, though, because they're not white. Wouldn't be politically correct.

Jesus · 10-23-2009, 12:31 PM

^Most of the people who are against gay marriage come from out of state sources and do everything in their power to strike fear in the public's eyes with propoganda and the sorts. And just because the state is heavily minority doesn't mean that they aren't against gay marriage. An equal amount of black people hate gay marriage just as much as the amount of white people. Race isn't an issue in this case. It's an issue of propoganda tactics to sway the vote.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-23-2009, 12:37 PM

^Actually, that's not true. Look at California. Most whites in the state actually voted NO. It was African-Americans and Hispanics, who tend to be socially conservative when it comes to abortion and gays, who came out and voted very heavily in favor of the amendment, enough to make a difference to have it pass.

And the shocking thing about this is that social conservatives still want to cater to angry white men instead of reaching out to blacks and Hispanics. You'd think this would change their approach, but it hasn't.

I don't blame any one group in particular other than NOM, who runs these deceptive attack ads (and is not aligned with any particular religious group), for passing the gay marriage ban in California. -CSM

Dylan · 10-23-2009, 02:12 PM

When did Misc. turn into PP&R? It's just a matter of time now before the thread derails into the inevitable oblivion of, "NUH UH YER A JERK."

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-23-2009, 02:33 PM

^ Good point. Yoink.

CodenameV · 10-23-2009, 07:20 PM

Soon people will be passing laws like Adolf Hitler.

....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNND By Godwin's law I declare this thread over.

On a more serious note, I think it's so ridiculous that people are launching giant fear campaigns over this. Why can't we just let people marry whoever they want? I mean, it's like passing a law that people can only eat vanilla ice cream. All well and good for the people who like vanilla, but they don't have to force their choice on the people who enjoy chocolate.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-24-2009, 06:13 AM

^The Daily Show ran a great piece last week about this. -CSM

CuccoLady · 10-26-2009, 12:30 AM

It just kind of pisses me off how many millions of dollars in California the mormon church put into banning gay marriage.

Now, I am aware that not all mormons want to smite the homosexuals or whatever [I know some pretty awesome and cool mormons], but it is true that the vast majority of the support and funds for Prop 8 in california came from this church and some of its members.

I just think it's sad that ANY people will spend so much money to do nothing other than strip away the rights of someone else. WTF, man.

CodenameV · 10-26-2009, 12:37 AM

Especially when there's so many constructive things people can do with that same money. I mean, people are barely able to feed their kids, and you're spending money to TAKE people's rights?

***CaptHayfever*** · 10-26-2009, 09:13 AM

Not to mention taking away people's rights in a place where you don't even live & don't have to even know about what goes on there.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-26-2009, 05:41 PM

^In Maine, that's exponentially more true than it was in California. -CSM

Jesus · 11-04-2009, 11:56 AM

You know what's worse?? The fear campaign has apparently worked in Maine with 53 percent of the same-sex-marriage foes winning. People who had NO RIGHT TO MEDDLE IN MAINE AFFAIRS came in and successfully stripped people of their rights. What shocks me the most is that everyone I knew were going to vote No on 1. It's probably the wording of the proposition too with people thinking that voting YES would let same-sex marriage stay legal. Either way, it is very sad.

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-04-2009, 07:56 PM

This IS embarassing. This is the northeast, where people are supposed to understand this. I bet when it comes up in NJ we're gonna lose now. If it does come here I'm going to fight this HARD. I'm friends with a gay couple and to see them lose rights would anger me to no end.

Though to be fair, I think in Maine took a step too far. I think the right thing for Maine now is to get civil unions first, then start thinking about marriage. Speaking of which, in Washington they just voted to EXPAND gay rights. The whole gay thing is a generational thing; in a generation or two we'll have gay marriage nationwide.

I'll make another topic about the rest of these elections.

And I'm sorry to all of the LGBTQAs in Maine. I pray that someday a majority will respect the rights of others to do as they please. -CSM

10-22-2009, 10:25 PM	#2
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: None of your business. Gender: Posts: 7,155 Thanks: 559 Thanked 225 Times in 181 Posts Blog Entries: 6	... I think the title says all I want to say; "Gay marriage ads *get similar* and use fear. Or simply: What's new?

10-22-2009, 11:17 PM	#4
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Mormons flooded our state and stole the vote in our case. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same there. Jerks.

10-23-2009, 09:14 AM	#6
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^^I don't know if it's Mormons in Maine's case, but yes, the vast majority of the money to ban gay marriage from Maine is coming from out of state. A few months ago I read that despite the anti-gays outspending the pro-gays by double, only $400 dollars of the anti-gay budget came from within Maine, whereas $80,000 of the pro-gay money came from within Maine. -CSM

10-23-2009, 10:51 AM	#7
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	^And that is what upsets me the most. Note how the Maine Ad I posted at the beginning has the hurried panicky music and doesn't say anywhere that it will ban gay marriage. It's all deception by the anti-gay marriage people.

10-23-2009, 12:31 PM	#9
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	^Most of the people who are against gay marriage come from out of state sources and do everything in their power to strike fear in the public's eyes with propoganda and the sorts. And just because the state is heavily minority doesn't mean that they aren't against gay marriage. An equal amount of black people hate gay marriage just as much as the amount of white people. Race isn't an issue in this case. It's an issue of propoganda tactics to sway the vote.

10-23-2009, 12:37 PM	#10
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Actually, that's not true. Look at California. Most whites in the state actually voted NO. It was African-Americans and Hispanics, who tend to be socially conservative when it comes to abortion and gays, who came out and voted very heavily in favor of the amendment, enough to make a difference to have it pass. And the shocking thing about this is that social conservatives still want to cater to angry white men instead of reaching out to blacks and Hispanics. You'd think this would change their approach, but it hasn't. I don't blame any one group in particular other than NOM, who runs these deceptive attack ads (and is not aligned with any particular religious group), for passing the gay marriage ban in California. -CSM

10-23-2009, 02:12 PM	#11
Dylan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teenage Wasteland Gender: Posts: 7,790 Thanks: 1,632 Thanked 1,816 Times in 773 Posts	When did Misc. turn into PP&R? It's just a matter of time now before the thread derails into the inevitable oblivion of, "NUH UH YER A JERK."

10-23-2009, 02:33 PM	#12
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	^ Good point. Yoink.

10-23-2009, 07:20 PM	#13
CodenameV Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mudkipland, CA Gender: Posts: 215 Thanks: 43 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Soon people will be passing laws like Adolf Hitler. ....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNND By Godwin's law I declare this thread over. On a more serious note, I think it's so ridiculous that people are launching giant fear campaigns over this. Why can't we just let people marry whoever they want? I mean, it's like passing a law that people can only eat vanilla ice cream. All well and good for the people who like vanilla, but they don't have to force their choice on the people who enjoy chocolate.

10-24-2009, 06:13 AM	#14
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^The Daily Show ran a great piece last week about this. -CSM

10-26-2009, 12:30 AM	#15
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	It just kind of pisses me off how many millions of dollars in California the mormon church put into banning gay marriage. Now, I am aware that not all mormons want to smite the homosexuals or whatever [I know some pretty awesome and cool mormons], but it is true that the vast majority of the support and funds for Prop 8 in california came from this church and some of its members. I just think it's sad that ANY people will spend so much money to do nothing other than strip away the rights of someone else. WTF, man.

10-26-2009, 12:37 AM	#16
CodenameV Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mudkipland, CA Gender: Posts: 215 Thanks: 43 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Especially when there's so many constructive things people can do with that same money. I mean, people are barely able to feed their kids, and you're spending money to TAKE people's rights?

10-26-2009, 09:13 AM	#17
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Not to mention taking away people's rights in a place where you don't even live & don't have to even know about what goes on there. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

10-26-2009, 05:41 PM	#18
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^In Maine, that's exponentially more true than it was in California. -CSM

11-04-2009, 11:56 AM	#19
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	You know what's worse?? The fear campaign has apparently worked in Maine with 53 percent of the same-sex-marriage foes winning. People who had NO RIGHT TO MEDDLE IN MAINE AFFAIRS came in and successfully stripped people of their rights. What shocks me the most is that everyone I knew were going to vote No on 1. It's probably the wording of the proposition too with people thinking that voting YES would let same-sex marriage stay legal. Either way, it is very sad.

11-04-2009, 07:56 PM	#20
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	This IS embarassing. This is the northeast, where people are supposed to understand this. I bet when it comes up in NJ we're gonna lose now. If it does come here I'm going to fight this HARD. I'm friends with a gay couple and to see them lose rights would anger me to no end. Though to be fair, I think in Maine took a step too far. I think the right thing for Maine now is to get civil unions first, then start thinking about marriage. Speaking of which, in Washington they just voted to EXPAND gay rights. The whole gay thing is a generational thing; in a generation or two we'll have gay marriage nationwide. I'll make another topic about the rest of these elections. And I'm sorry to all of the LGBTQAs in Maine. I pray that someday a majority will respect the rights of others to do as they please. -CSM