A simple question...

**Valigarmander** · 11-01-2009, 08:51 PM

What's a private citizen going to do with an assault weapon?

**Loot** · 11-01-2009, 08:55 PM

Mow down hundreds of target dummies?

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Use them to assault people?

There's always the "deterrence" issue raised with gun ownership. Simply owning an intimidating weapon is supposed to have a chilling effect on crime. But, yes, owning an fully-automatic rifle is sort of overkill.

There's also the ability to raise your own militia. The idea is that if you let your guard down, the King of England is going to march in there with your pants down. Having a population, each with their own ICBM is going to prevent that. Sort of like how Switzerland has mandatory conscription, part of which requires you to keep a fully operational assault rifle all up in your crib (in addition to the Army Knife).

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-01-2009, 10:30 PM

Yeah, see, I get & support the-right-to-own-guns, but I neither get nor support the-right-to-own-guns-that-shoot-so-many-bullets-at-a-time-that-they-can-tear-down-houses.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Kil'jaeden · 11-02-2009, 12:24 AM

Well, you never know. You might have to take on an army one day, and you need to be prepared for these things.

Vgfian · 11-02-2009, 12:51 AM

Most people are scared of the government, and that's not a good thing either.

As far as I know, one of the main reasons for the right to bear arms was to help overthrow an oppressive government.

Whether it be a hostile takeover from another country, or some suit upstairs deciding to institute ~~marshall~~ martial law. Or possibly even in the event of another civil war.

Most people are afraid of what might happen in these times, and want to be prepared.
A gun helps you feel safe, and the more effective the gun the safer you feel. Not to mention how much more protected you would be.

Either that, or they're a rich bastard and want a collection. :/

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-02-2009, 06:56 AM

Note: it's more likely you meant marital law than Marshall Law.

Ah, the overthrow-oppressive-government idea sort of makes sense. But I suspect that the leading reason is simply a machismo thing.

Vgfian · 11-02-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace Mercury

Note: it's more likely you meant marital law than Marshall Law.

Nope, I meant martial law.

Marital law is something else entirely.

Thanks anyway though.

John Galt · 11-02-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valigarmander

What's a private citizen going to do with an assault weapon?

First, you have to define what you think an "assault weapon" is.

***Booyakasha*** · 11-02-2009, 11:36 AM

What does a private citizen do with any potentially dangerous toy? They take it out on weekends and play with it in a responsible manner. And if it sounds like I'm making light of gun safety, I'm definitely not. I don't make light of car safety, either---hasn't stopped me from going out and spinning cookies in an empty parking lot, though.

Demonicus Prime · 11-02-2009, 12:06 PM

I'll support them once they figure out how to not kill eachother with them.

Darth_Flava · 11-02-2009, 12:29 PM

Personally I prefer the 12 gauge shotgun. Nothing like pulling the trigger knowing your gonna hit something in front of you lol. And before anyone says anything I'm refering to target practice on cans in a safe place with no possibility of a bullet going astray.

Lurch1982 · 11-02-2009, 03:02 PM

Red Dawn.

Sim Kid · 11-02-2009, 06:03 PM

They may be collectors. What would be wrong with someone say, having a weapon up on the wall that they don't use? It's just for display. And if you say anything about "what if it's loaded?", then they're a DUMB Collector, because you shouldn't LEAVE loaded weapons around where some idiot will get them!

But some of the NRA-paranoid people are just maniacs. The **** they send me in the mail is hillarious.
"THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO HAVE A GUN!"
Really? When in the bible does it say "Thou shalt own a gun" or "Every citizen must carry a gun"? I don't recall hearing that. Even the local priests and nuns don't recall that verse in the bible. Does it say in the Torah or Koran or any other religious book that thou shalt carry a gun at all times?
"YOU NEED THIS TO DEFEND YOURSELF!"
Excuse me? An AK-47? Yeah right...Maybe if I didn't care about anything else in the room. Grenades? Wait, you think I'll have the time if someone's breaking in my house to throw one of those? I'd rather just smack them across the head with a baseball bat, get them with pepper spray or a Kubaton, or shoot them in the legs with an easy-to-conceal weapon (like say...a pistol)
"CONCEALED CARRY IS WHAT WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE WHEN COLUMBINE IS REENACTED!"
Maybe some, but not all the time. Besides, explain how you can conceal-carry Assault Weaponry?

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-02-2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

"CONCEALED CARRY IS WHAT WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE WHEN COLUMBINE IS REENACTED!"

No it won't, because concealed carry is trumped by no-guns-on-school-grounds.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-02-2009, 10:30 PM

Let's see....the Second Amendment was created so we can DEFEND ourselves.

ASSAULT does not constitute defense.

Therefore, an ASSAULT rifle does not DEFEND, it ATTACKS.

Therefore, an ASSAULT rifle violates the spirit of the Second Amendment. -CSM

***Booyakasha*** · 11-02-2009, 10:46 PM

^Lucky for me that all I have is a DEFENSE rifle and a DEFENSE shotgun and a DEFENSE bazooka and a DEFENSE hydrogen bomb, then.

***Cosmonautical*** · 11-02-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim Kid

They may be collectors. What would be wrong with someone say, having a weapon up on the wall that they don't use? It's just for display. And if you say anything about "what if it's loaded?", then they're a DUMB Collector, because you shouldn't LEAVE loaded weapons around where some idiot will get them!

But some of the NRA-paranoid people are just maniacs. The **** they send me in the mail is hillarious.
"THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO HAVE A GUN!"
Really? When in the bible does it say "Thou shalt own a gun" or "Every citizen must carry a gun"? I don't recall hearing that. Even the local priests and nuns don't recall that verse in the bible. Does it say in the Torah or Koran or any other religious book that thou shalt carry a gun at all times?
"YOU NEED THIS TO DEFEND YOURSELF!"
Excuse me? An AK-47? Yeah right...Maybe if I didn't care about anything else in the room. Grenades? Wait, you think I'll have the time if someone's breaking in my house to throw one of those? I'd rather just smack them across the head with a baseball bat, get them with pepper spray or a Kubaton, or shoot them in the legs with an easy-to-conceal weapon (like say...a pistol)
"CONCEALED CARRY IS WHAT WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE WHEN COLUMBINE IS REENACTED!"
Maybe some, but not all the time. Besides, explain how you can conceal-carry Assault Weaponry?

So I should be allowed to collect napalm then, right.

***Ace Mercury*** · 11-03-2009, 06:34 AM

So that's why you were buying up all of those mothballs. I thought that you had... a moth problem.

***Booyakasha*** · 11-03-2009, 08:00 AM

^For some reason, I imagined you putting on a pair of shades during that ellipsis.

11-01-2009, 08:51 PM	#1
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	A simple question... What's a private citizen going to do with an assault weapon?

11-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#3
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	BTW: I am also a witch. Use them to assault people? There's always the "deterrence" issue raised with gun ownership. Simply owning an intimidating weapon is supposed to have a chilling effect on crime. But, yes, owning an fully-automatic rifle is sort of overkill. There's also the ability to raise your own militia. The idea is that if you let your guard down, the King of England is going to march in there with your pants down. Having a population, each with their own ICBM is going to prevent that. Sort of like how Switzerland has mandatory conscription, part of which requires you to keep a fully operational assault rifle all up in your crib (in addition to the Army Knife).

11-02-2009, 12:51 AM	#6
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	Most people are scared of the government, and that's not a good thing either. As far as I know, one of the main reasons for the right to bear arms was to help overthrow an oppressive government. Whether it be a hostile takeover from another country, or some suit upstairs deciding to institute ~~marshall~~ martial law. Or possibly even in the event of another civil war. Most people are afraid of what might happen in these times, and want to be prepared. A gun helps you feel safe, and the more effective the gun the safer you feel. Not to mention how much more protected you would be. Either that, or they're a rich bastard and want a collection. :/ Last edited by Vgfian; 11-02-2009 at 07:03 AM.

11-01-2009, 08:55 PM	#2
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	Mow down hundreds of target dummies?

11-01-2009, 10:30 PM	#4
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Yeah, see, I get & support the-right-to-own-guns, but I neither get nor support the-right-to-own-guns-that-shoot-so-many-bullets-at-a-time-that-they-can-tear-down-houses. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

11-02-2009, 12:24 AM	#5
Kil'jaeden Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your mind Gender: Posts: 2,132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 146 Times in 99 Posts	Well, you never know. You might have to take on an army one day, and you need to be prepared for these things.

11-02-2009, 06:56 AM	#7
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Note: it's more likely you meant marital law than Marshall Law. Ah, the overthrow-oppressive-government idea sort of makes sense. But I suspect that the leading reason is simply a machismo thing.

11-02-2009, 11:36 AM	#10
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	What does a private citizen do with any potentially dangerous toy? They take it out on weekends and play with it in a responsible manner. And if it sounds like I'm making light of gun safety, I'm definitely not. I don't make light of car safety, either---hasn't stopped me from going out and spinning cookies in an empty parking lot, though.

11-02-2009, 12:06 PM	#11
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 3,108 Thanks: 648 Thanked 129 Times in 87 Posts	I'll support them once they figure out how to not kill eachother with them.

11-02-2009, 12:29 PM	#12
Darth_Flava Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Gender: Posts: 137 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Personally I prefer the 12 gauge shotgun. Nothing like pulling the trigger knowing your gonna hit something in front of you lol. And before anyone says anything I'm refering to target practice on cans in a safe place with no possibility of a bullet going astray.

11-02-2009, 03:02 PM	#13
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: DenCo Gender: Posts: 9,850 Thanks: 127 Thanked 365 Times in 192 Posts	Red Dawn.

11-02-2009, 06:03 PM	#14
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	They may be collectors. What would be wrong with someone say, having a weapon up on the wall that they don't use? It's just for display. And if you say anything about "what if it's loaded?", then they're a DUMB Collector, because you shouldn't LEAVE loaded weapons around where some idiot will get them! But some of the NRA-paranoid people are just maniacs. The **** they send me in the mail is hillarious. "THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO HAVE A GUN!" Really? When in the bible does it say "Thou shalt own a gun" or "Every citizen must carry a gun"? I don't recall hearing that. Even the local priests and nuns don't recall that verse in the bible. Does it say in the Torah or Koran or any other religious book that thou shalt carry a gun at all times? "YOU NEED THIS TO DEFEND YOURSELF!" Excuse me? An AK-47? Yeah right...Maybe if I didn't care about anything else in the room. Grenades? Wait, you think I'll have the time if someone's breaking in my house to throw one of those? I'd rather just smack them across the head with a baseball bat, get them with pepper spray or a Kubaton, or shoot them in the legs with an easy-to-conceal weapon (like say...a pistol) "CONCEALED CARRY IS WHAT WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE WHEN COLUMBINE IS REENACTED!" Maybe some, but not all the time. Besides, explain how you can conceal-carry Assault Weaponry?

11-02-2009, 10:30 PM	#16
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Let's see....the Second Amendment was created so we can DEFEND ourselves. ASSAULT does not constitute defense. Therefore, an ASSAULT rifle does not DEFEND, it ATTACKS. Therefore, an ASSAULT rifle violates the spirit of the Second Amendment. -CSM

11-02-2009, 10:46 PM	#17
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	^Lucky for me that all I have is a DEFENSE rifle and a DEFENSE shotgun and a DEFENSE bazooka and a DEFENSE hydrogen bomb, then.

11-03-2009, 06:34 AM	#19
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	So that's why you were buying up all of those mothballs. I thought that you had... a moth problem.

11-03-2009, 08:00 AM	#20
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	^For some reason, I imagined you putting on a pair of shades during that ellipsis.