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Old 03-30-2011, 07:48 AM   #1
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PETA: The Bible is speciesist

PETA: Don't call animals 'it' in the Bible – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

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PETA, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, is calling for a more animal-friendly update to the Bible.

The group is asking translators of the New International Version (NIV) to remove what it calls "speciesist" language and refer to animals as "he" or "she" instead of "it."

The NIV is a popular translation of the Christian Bible. An updated translation was released this month. The translators said 95% of the 1984 translation remains the same. But the committee of scholars made a move to be more gender-inclusive in their translation into English from the original Hebrew and Greek texts. According to the Committee on Bible Translation's website:

In general, much more often than not ... "People” and "humans” (and "human beings”) were widely used for Greek and Hebrew masculine forms referring to both men and women. ... "Ancestors” was regularly preferred to "forefathers” unless a specific, limited reference to the patriarchs or to another all-male group is intended.

PETA is hoping the move toward greater gender inclusiveness will continue toward animals as well.

“When the Bible moves toward inclusively in one area ... it wasn’t much of a stretch to suggest they move toward inclusively in this area," Bruce Friedrich, PETA's vice president for policy, told CNN.

Friedrich, a practicing Roman Catholic, said, "Language matters. Calling an animal 'it' denies them something. They are beloved by God. They glorify God."

“God’s covenant is with humans and animals. God cares about animals," Friedrich said. "I would think that’s a rather unanimous opinion among biblical scholars today, where that might not have been the case 200 years ago.”

Friedrich, who is also a vegan and suggests the Bible promotes vegetarianism, puts a religious face on PETA's ethical arguments.

“What happens in slaughterhouses mocks God,” he said. People know intuitively that "animals are 'who' not 'what.' ... Acknowledging it would better align our practices with our beliefs.”

David Berger, the dean of Yeshiva University’s Bernard Revel graduate school of Jewish studies, said making the shift in English PETA is requesting would be difficult given the nature of ancient Hebrew.

“In Hebrew all nouns are gender-specific. So the noun for chair is masculine and the noun for earth is feminine. There’s simply no such thing as a neutral noun," Berger told CNN. “It’s unusual to have a noun that would indicate the sex of the animal.”

“In Proverbs it says, 'Look at the ant oh lazy person. See its ways,' " Berger said, quoting the English transition from the book of Proverbs. "In Hebrew it’s 'see her ways.' That's because the word for ant in Hebrew happens to be female. It’s not intended to exclude male ants as far as I know. It’s just an accident the Hebrew word happens to be feminine.”

He said that verse and many others are not intended to single out one sex or the other of the animals.

"It’s a little bit misleading given the fact in English the gender of the pronoun means something. It refers to the masculinity of the person or the animal that’s being referred to. In Hebrew in most cases its just sort of an accident of the masculine or feminine of the pronoun to which it referred," Berger said.

David Lyle Jeffrey, a distinguished professor of literature and the humanities at Baylor University, teaches about ancient texts and the Bible's relationship to literature and the arts.

“I agree with their contention that God cares for all of creation," Jeffrey said. "It is true that we have a responsibility to reflect that affection.

"In gender-inclusive Bible translation the generic terms for humankind, let's say, are then replaced with an emphasis on he or she. Instead of the generic he, you say he and she. I don’t quite see how that would work with animals," Jeffery said.

"Do we need to know the gender of the lion Samson slew? What would it give us there?" he said. "You could try to specify that, but you would be doing so entirely inventively if you did. It's not in the original language. ... Nothing is made of it in the story."

Jeffery said he sympathizes and agrees with PETA's position that God calls for humans to care for animals, but he said, "When you get to the point when you say, 'Don’t say it, say he or she' when the text doesn’t, you’re both screwing up the text and missing the main point you addressed."

PETA's Friedrich said his group's position has been bolstered by the creation care movement, in which many evangelicals are becoming more conscience about the environment.

"The creation care movement is certainly helpful,” he said.

Whether their arguments will be enough to sway the translators is yet to be seen. Friedrich said he has yet to hear back from the Committee on Bible Translation.
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:10 AM   #2
 
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peta is a total lolcow

totally sexist, too, fricken idiots
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I thought this would be about a lot more than pronoun trouble from the title. What with the killing an animal to make up for something you did and all.
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^ No, apparently that's okay, as long as you acknowledge the animal was a he or she when you slaughtered it in sacrifice.

I'M SO SORRY MISTER GOAT YOU WERE A GOOD HE-GOAT, BUT I NEED TO SACRIFICE YOU NOW, OKAY BYE.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:59 AM   #5
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“God’s covenant is with humans and animals.
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Friedrich, who is also a vegan and suggests the Bible promotes vegetarianism...
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People know intuitively that "animals are 'who' not 'what.'
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:40 PM   #6
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I hope God can forgive me for supporting such species-ist translations of his Word for so long...
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This is the same PETA that supported euthinizing the Vick dogs, no? Support ASPCA. -CSM
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What's with this "he or she" crap I see all the time? In the Handbook of Grammar and Composition issued in English class, it says, "When referring to a person of unknown gender, use masculine pronouns, not 'he/she' or 'him/her'." It's like they're trying to be correct but failing, because it's incorrect to use 'he or she' for unknown genders, it should simply be 'he'.

If people want to be so careful to be correct, they should at least learn the rules.

[It's possible this rule is specific to the English language, but I see it in English all the time and it always reminds of what I learned in school.]

I would also like to add that nowadays, the animals that were alive when the Word of God was written down no longer care how they're referred to.

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