Favorite Smash Bros. Game

Speed · 04-30-2008, 10:51 AM

I say Melee, Brawl is amazeing but Melee will always have a special place in my Gameing Life.

EDIT: For those of you who have no Idea what Kart Fighters is

YouTube - Pirated Game Oddities: Kart Fighter (NES)

***Booyakasha*** · 04-30-2008, 11:03 AM

Blake · 04-30-2008, 11:41 AM

Haven't played Brawl. Tough choice. Oldschool smashbrothers has history of course. Also has the original badass metal mario and giant DK. I'll vote later when I actually have time, damnit.

SephirothKirby · 04-30-2008, 02:55 PM

Melee, I suppose.

**X-3** · 04-30-2008, 03:15 PM

None of them. They all suck and should be burnt.

...yeah, Brawl.

Dizzy · 04-30-2008, 05:10 PM

You should've made it multiple choice.

Nonetheless, both SSB and Kart Fighters.

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-30-2008, 05:28 PM

-CSM

N Kong · 04-30-2008, 07:13 PM

Super Smash Bros 64.

Dr. Furball · 05-01-2008, 03:57 AM

Brawl. It has Mario and stuff.

Oh, wait...

Kargath · 05-01-2008, 07:04 AM

Melee, since Brawl effectively costs $500 for me to play single player.

Metal Man · 05-01-2008, 11:36 PM

Brawl, original, and last (and least) Melee.

Original I was good at, it was easy for me to knock people around. I was known as an evil player then, using Fox to kick people like Soccer balls.

Then Melee came out, with the tiers and the nonsense and the sword guys who cheat. This destroyed my game and left me with virtually nothing. For the years it was out I could never have fun playing multiplayer due to my lack of knowledge of a bunch of random sneaky game holes.

Brawl came out and I was restored to 'terrifying' with ROB, and all is right now--but in shiny color instead of cartoony stuff.

**Deku Trii** · 05-02-2008, 12:41 AM

I actually had the opposite problem that you did, MM. I got to be an absolute monster in Melee, playing it so much and getting such an intimate feel for the timing of everything that when I tried to go back to SSB I was completely useless. The N64 controller felt alien in my hands and I couldn't cope with not having a mid-air dodge, among other more subtle things.

I haven't played Brawl much, but the times I have I've had similar issues. Maybe I'd do better if I had played with the GC controller.

Dizzy · 05-02-2008, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Man

Brawl, original, and last (and least) Melee.

Original I was good at, it was easy for me to knock people around. I was known as an evil player then, using Fox to kick people like Soccer balls.

Then Melee came out, with the tiers and the nonsense and the sword guys who cheat. This destroyed my game and left me with virtually nothing. For the years it was out I could never have fun playing multiplayer due to my lack of knowledge of a bunch of random sneaky game holes.

Brawl came out and I was restored to 'terrifying' with ROB, and all is right now--but in shiny color instead of cartoony stuff.

This.

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-02-2008, 12:48 PM

There are no "tiers" in Melee. The entire "tier" system was created by players looking to justify their prejudices; there is nothing in the game code to support it. (Unless you count the CPU's competency, which no one who knows what they're talking about does.)

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Panfan · 05-02-2008, 03:26 PM

Tiers is the largest amount of BS I've ever seen. If you think you're going to win with Fox because he's Fox, you're an idiot and you should stop playing games now.

Metal Man · 05-07-2008, 10:25 PM

Well, the problem wasn't so much the tiers but the abuses possible with some of the characters, which most people had learned to use exclusively.

Hence because I couldn't Wavedash or otherwise trick my way around my characters were universally useless against anyone who'd learned those tricks, which was immensely frustrating.

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-08-2008, 12:00 AM

I can't wavedash. Never could. I can still fight "upper-tier" players effectively.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-08-2008, 12:01 AM

I don't know ANY of those fancy schmancy terms. -CSM

Speed · 05-08-2008, 12:48 PM

CSM is my new favorite person

***Marilink*** · 05-08-2008, 02:45 PM

1. Tournament players who say people need to learn how to play are stupid.

2. People who dis tournament players for the things they know are also stupid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Man

Then Melee came out, with the tiers and the nonsense and the sword guys who cheat. This destroyed my game and left me with virtually nothing. For the years it was out I could never have fun playing multiplayer due to my lack of knowledge of a bunch of random sneaky game holes.

Sword guys who cheat? What does that even mean?

You don't have to know about "sneaky game holes." If you know tournament players, play some time matches on stages like Big Blue, with items on. If they don't want to because it's not fun, that's their fault and they're dumb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panfan

Tiers is the largest amount of BS I've ever seen. If you think you're going to win with Fox because he's Fox, you're an idiot and you should stop playing games now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayFever

There are no "tiers" in Melee. The entire "tier" system was created by players looking to justify their prejudices; there is nothing in the game code to support it. (Unless you count the CPU's competency, which no one who knows what they're talking about does.)

Tiers are based off of winners of tournaments. Fox is the top of the tier for a good reason--he matches up with so many people and can easily rape on any stage. Fox is the reason many of the Melee stages aren't used in tournaments--he would win every time on a place like Onett or Yoshi's Island. So yeah, tiers exist. The best Fox player ever could easily beat the best Bowser player ever.

Capt, Tiers weren't created by Fox players. I play as Doctor Mario and I still think tiers exist. People play who they enjoy playing as--if that's Fox, more power to them. There are some well-known tourney players who play as mid-to-low tiers: Gimpyfish plays Bowser, King plays Jigglypuff, the list goes on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

I can't wavedash. Never could. I can still fight "upper-tier" players effectively.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

This is how I read that: "I fought my friend's Marth one time and I won, so tiers don't exist."

If you meant something else, let me know.

Now I want you guys to pay close attention to this:

If you do advanced techniques, you're not necessarily a good player.
If you're a good player, the advanced techniques are extremely useful.

See what I'm saying? I can L-cancel, wavedash, Shuffle, but there are people out there that are way better than I am. Don't piss all over the idea of tournament players just because they play the game differently.

Enjoy the game. Don't talk **** about other people who enjoy it in their way.

Also, I have nothing against any of you guys, but every time someone makes an unfair generalization, especially when they're saying something stupid about something I enjoy, I get a little bothered.

Also, Brawl is my favorite.

View Poll Results: What SSB
Super Smash Bros.	2	9.09%
Super Smash Bros. Melee	5	22.73%
Super Smash Bros. Brawl	13	59.09%
Kart Fighters ?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!	2	9.09%
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04-30-2008, 10:51 AM	#1
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Favorite Smash Bros. Game I say Melee, Brawl is amazeing but Melee will always have a special place in my Gameing Life. EDIT: For those of you who have no Idea what Kart Fighters is YouTube - Pirated Game Oddities: Kart Fighter (NES)

04-30-2008, 11:03 AM	#2
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	SSB.

04-30-2008, 11:41 AM	#3
Blake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A generic place such as a house Gender: Posts: 4,628 Thanks: 1,489 Thanked 206 Times in 148 Posts	Haven't played Brawl. Tough choice. Oldschool smashbrothers has history of course. Also has the original badass metal mario and giant DK. I'll vote later when I actually have time, damnit.

04-30-2008, 02:55 PM	#4
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it. Gender: Posts: 7,213 Thanks: 373 Thanked 760 Times in 447 Posts	Melee, I suppose.

04-30-2008, 03:15 PM	#5
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,944 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	None of them. They all suck and should be burnt. ...yeah, Brawl.

04-30-2008, 05:10 PM	#6
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	You should've made it multiple choice. Nonetheless, both SSB and Kart Fighters.

04-30-2008, 05:28 PM	#7
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	-CSM

04-30-2008, 07:13 PM	#8
N Kong Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The tallest tree in the forest. Gender: Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 13 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts	Super Smash Bros 64.

05-01-2008, 03:57 AM	#9
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,125 Thanks: 185 Thanked 97 Times in 60 Posts	Brawl. It has Mario and stuff. Oh, wait...

05-01-2008, 07:04 AM	#10
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	Melee, since Brawl effectively costs $500 for me to play single player.

05-01-2008, 11:36 PM	#11
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Brawl, original, and last (and least) Melee. Original I was good at, it was easy for me to knock people around. I was known as an evil player then, using Fox to kick people like Soccer balls. Then Melee came out, with the tiers and the nonsense and the sword guys who cheat. This destroyed my game and left me with virtually nothing. For the years it was out I could never have fun playing multiplayer due to my lack of knowledge of a bunch of random sneaky game holes. Brawl came out and I was restored to 'terrifying' with ROB, and all is right now--but in shiny color instead of cartoony stuff.

05-02-2008, 12:41 AM	#12
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	I actually had the opposite problem that you did, MM. I got to be an absolute monster in Melee, playing it so much and getting such an intimate feel for the timing of everything that when I tried to go back to SSB I was completely useless. The N64 controller felt alien in my hands and I couldn't cope with not having a mid-air dodge, among other more subtle things. I haven't played Brawl much, but the times I have I've had similar issues. Maybe I'd do better if I had played with the GC controller.

05-02-2008, 12:48 PM	#14
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	There are no "tiers" in Melee. The entire "tier" system was created by players looking to justify their prejudices; there is nothing in the game code to support it. (Unless you count the CPU's competency, which no one who knows what they're talking about does.) And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

05-02-2008, 03:26 PM	#15
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,250 Times in 1,338 Posts Blog Entries: 15	Tiers is the largest amount of BS I've ever seen. If you think you're going to win with Fox because he's Fox, you're an idiot and you should stop playing games now.

05-07-2008, 10:25 PM	#16
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Well, the problem wasn't so much the tiers but the abuses possible with some of the characters, which most people had learned to use exclusively. Hence because I couldn't Wavedash or otherwise trick my way around my characters were universally useless against anyone who'd learned those tricks, which was immensely frustrating.

05-08-2008, 12:00 AM	#17
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	I can't wavedash. Never could. I can still fight "upper-tier" players effectively. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

05-08-2008, 12:01 AM	#18
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	I don't know ANY of those fancy schmancy terms. -CSM

05-08-2008, 12:48 PM	#19
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	CSM is my new favorite person