Lavos vs Giygas

**Valigarmander** · 09-24-2008, 09:35 PM

Lavos is a gargantuan space entity who scours the universe in search of healthy worlds to dwell in for millions of years, controling their evolution and sapping their energy to power its own spawn before destroying the planet and and returning to space to repeat the cycle.

Giygas is an immensely powerful alien whose evil power destroyed his body and mind and left him as an uncontrolable powerhouse capable of damning the entire universe into a world of darkness and despair.

Both cause the apocalypse and are only defeated by the heroes traveling through time to destroy it.

Who would win?

Microphone_Kirby · 09-24-2008, 09:41 PM

... I'll go with Lavos, since it's the only character I'm familiar with.

But... I'd like to know a little more about Giygas itself. Like what kind of mannerisms does Giygas have? Does it act on its own? Could it act on its own?

SephirothKirby · 09-24-2008, 09:55 PM

Lavos was a pansy. I expected a lot more out of him.

So, Giygas.

**Deku Trii** · 09-24-2008, 09:58 PM

Giygas. It's not even close.

***CaptHayfever*** · 09-24-2008, 09:58 PM

^^^Giygas can & does act on its own. Its mannerisms include undulating creepily, rambling insane gibberish, & unleashing utterly incomprehensible but very powerful attacks. It looks exactly like the background behind Larvos in the above picture.

And remember, "It feels good......it's not right......I'm-a...so...happy........."

***Cosmonautical*** · 09-24-2008, 11:14 PM

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t3hDarkness · 09-24-2008, 11:37 PM

Lets toss in Galactus and Pyron too.

Robotazy · 09-25-2008, 07:12 AM

were is dark force?

.....Oh Wait. I forgot that I never Played Phantasy Star. god damn it. joke is ruined

Ok, Giygas.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-09-2008, 09:21 PM

It's more of a fight between Pokey and Queen Zeal (who control them). While Queen Zeal has Halliaton, Pokey is heavily armored. So by that logic, it's Giygas. -CSM

heh · 10-09-2008, 09:31 PM

sorry, gotta go with lavos. lavos owns

**Cravdraa** · 10-09-2008, 09:47 PM

*Lavos's cry was absorbed by the darkness*

heh · 10-09-2008, 09:53 PM

you forget that lavos has the BLACK TYRANNO

t3hDarkness · 10-09-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cravdraa

*Lavos's cry was absorbed by the darkness*

What did it taste like?

***Ace Mercury*** · 10-10-2008, 07:27 AM

He's the sort of evil that you need the entire world to beat up.

***Cosmonautical*** · 11-18-2008, 10:19 PM

THE ONLY WAY TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD IS TO HIT IT WITH THE MOON

Metal Man · 11-19-2008, 12:35 AM

Giygas.

I've studied the concept. Lavos is a 'positive' being, therefore he is deadly-weak against a 'negative' being, like Giygas, who feeds by destroying everything remotely good or positive and enhancing evil wills in everything.

Lavos is more of a giant bug who thinks nothing of destroying worlds and warping them. Giygas destroys worlds and the warping is just a result of the eventual annihilation. Giygas is also capable of threatening the planet even before he goes insane--no such thing for Lavos.

Giygas absorbs the entire dimension he is in and basically annihilates everything; at which point Lavos, if he hasn't formed yet, is destroyed. If he is fully formed and they somehow both appear at the same time, Giygas is still invincible. Why?

Lavos doesn't have the support of good guys and a whole planet to pray Giygas to death. Giygas is immune to physical or magical harm. Lavos happens to lack a real spirit, so while he would take a while to destroy by 'incomprehensible attacks', he'd be unable to truly harm Giygas back.

A similar character I made up would probably have a better chance against Giygas. The Void--a living plot hole in the vague outline of a human, with red eyes but made of pure darkness otherwise--would be able to bend and rip reality in order to summon the sort of thing Giygas is weak against. However he would also be damaged by Giygas.

Basically, only characters with a perceived spiritual strength (or twisted perversion of such) can really impact Giygas. Wheras Lavos can just be beaten to death if you're powerful enough.

**X-3** · 11-19-2008, 02:34 PM

Neither. In the end, mankind wins the battle.

Giygas is badass though, so I guess I'll go with him.

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09-24-2008, 09:35 PM	#1
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Lavos vs Giygas Lavos is a gargantuan space entity who scours the universe in search of healthy worlds to dwell in for millions of years, controling their evolution and sapping their energy to power its own spawn before destroying the planet and and returning to space to repeat the cycle. Giygas is an immensely powerful alien whose evil power destroyed his body and mind and left him as an uncontrolable powerhouse capable of damning the entire universe into a world of darkness and despair. Both cause the apocalypse and are only defeated by the heroes traveling through time to destroy it. Who would win?

09-24-2008, 11:14 PM	#6
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09-24-2008, 09:41 PM	#2
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: None of your business. Gender: Posts: 7,155 Thanks: 559 Thanked 225 Times in 181 Posts Blog Entries: 6	... I'll go with Lavos, since it's the only character I'm familiar with. But... I'd like to know a little more about Giygas itself. Like what kind of mannerisms does Giygas have? Does it act on its own? Could it act on its own?

09-24-2008, 09:55 PM	#3
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it. Gender: Posts: 7,213 Thanks: 373 Thanked 760 Times in 447 Posts	Lavos was a pansy. I expected a lot more out of him. So, Giygas.

09-24-2008, 09:58 PM	#4
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	Giygas. It's not even close.

09-24-2008, 09:58 PM	#5
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^^^Giygas can & does act on its own. Its mannerisms include undulating creepily, rambling insane gibberish, & unleashing utterly incomprehensible but very powerful attacks. It looks exactly like the background behind Larvos in the above picture. And remember, "It feels good......it's not right......I'm-a...so...happy........."

09-24-2008, 11:37 PM	#7
t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I weep oily black tears of joy. Gender: Posts: 7,590 Thanks: 119 Thanked 418 Times in 306 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Lets toss in Galactus and Pyron too.

09-25-2008, 07:12 AM	#8
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	were is dark force? .....Oh Wait. I forgot that I never Played Phantasy Star. god damn it. joke is ruined Ok, Giygas.

10-09-2008, 09:21 PM	#9
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	It's more of a fight between Pokey and Queen Zeal (who control them). While Queen Zeal has Halliaton, Pokey is heavily armored. So by that logic, it's Giygas. -CSM

10-09-2008, 09:31 PM	#10
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	sorry, gotta go with lavos. lavos owns

10-09-2008, 09:47 PM	#11
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's Round on the sides and high in the middle. Gender: Posts: 8,470 Thanks: 171 Thanked 661 Times in 403 Posts	Lavos's cry was absorbed by the darkness

10-09-2008, 09:53 PM	#12
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	you forget that lavos has the BLACK TYRANNO

10-10-2008, 07:27 AM	#14
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	He's the sort of evil that you need the entire world to beat up.

11-18-2008, 10:19 PM	#15
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	THE ONLY WAY TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD IS TO HIT IT WITH THE MOON

11-19-2008, 12:35 AM	#16
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Giygas. I've studied the concept. Lavos is a 'positive' being, therefore he is deadly-weak against a 'negative' being, like Giygas, who feeds by destroying everything remotely good or positive and enhancing evil wills in everything. Lavos is more of a giant bug who thinks nothing of destroying worlds and warping them. Giygas destroys worlds and the warping is just a result of the eventual annihilation. Giygas is also capable of threatening the planet even before he goes insane--no such thing for Lavos. Giygas absorbs the entire dimension he is in and basically annihilates everything; at which point Lavos, if he hasn't formed yet, is destroyed. If he is fully formed and they somehow both appear at the same time, Giygas is still invincible. Why? Lavos doesn't have the support of good guys and a whole planet to pray Giygas to death. Giygas is immune to physical or magical harm. Lavos happens to lack a real spirit, so while he would take a while to destroy by 'incomprehensible attacks', he'd be unable to truly harm Giygas back. A similar character I made up would probably have a better chance against Giygas. The Void--a living plot hole in the vague outline of a human, with red eyes but made of pure darkness otherwise--would be able to bend and rip reality in order to summon the sort of thing Giygas is weak against. However he would also be damaged by Giygas. Basically, only characters with a perceived spiritual strength (or twisted perversion of such) can really impact Giygas. Wheras Lavos can just be beaten to death if you're powerful enough.

11-19-2008, 02:34 PM	#17
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,943 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Neither. In the end, mankind wins the battle. Giygas is badass though, so I guess I'll go with him.