VGF has way too many forums for a too small memberbase

Benito Mussolini · 02-06-2008, 02:40 AM

huge problem-- not everybody wants to bother checking every single board for every single topic and most of these forums are useless and can be cluttered into a cover-all mb

ic an see the point of having ALOT of forums for a really active board but vgf isnt active enough to warrant so many discussion hives

what do you guys think

Wyborn · 02-06-2008, 02:47 AM

Let's not turn this into a flamefest, people, it's something to talk about. Just putting this out there before anybody jumps on this guy (either because of his opinions or because of who he is).

heh · 02-06-2008, 06:50 AM

~~fascist!~~ Well, we do have way to many fourms. Do we need all those annoying member boards? Among other things people don't post in, most of those are the most inactive.

jigglypuffer · 02-06-2008, 07:11 AM

That's what I find charming about VGF, it dares be enormous to please an average-sized population.

Although for that matter, I probably haven't ever visited 60% of the available forums.

***Booyakasha*** · 02-06-2008, 08:51 AM

1. The forums haven't always been this inactive, and there's no guarantee they always will be.
2. Others may disagree, but I personally like that unrelated topics are relegated to their own boards. I consider it a time-saver not to have to wade through a bunch of threads I don't care about, which is something I'd have to do if, say, they combined all the 'entertainment' boards, for instance.

***Ace Mercury*** · 02-06-2008, 09:00 AM

Yeah, there's a few forums that could be culled/archived (re: those which don't have a latest post in this year), but otherwise it's reasonable.

Platinum · 02-06-2008, 09:57 AM

it brings up a good point... I think most of the member forums should be done away with just because the really are just sub forums. of some other forum.

Robotazy · 02-06-2008, 10:42 AM

NO!
.....

.....

yes

***The Doctor*** · 02-06-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum

it brings up a good point... I think most of the member forums should be done away with just because the really are just sub forums. of some other forum.

This, expect leaving in the members board, and Mindless link.

**X-3** · 02-06-2008, 01:30 PM

I don't see much of a point, really, considering a lot of those forums are somewhat-active enough to stay around.

Though, I'll be honest, those Member Forums can go.

Robotazy · 02-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Stop that. Each time you say "get rid of the Member Forums" You make me want to cry....

***The Doctor*** · 02-06-2008, 02:05 PM

*breathes in*get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums.

/being nasty

Robotazy · 02-06-2008, 02:10 PM

Metal Man · 02-06-2008, 03:29 PM

I already brought this up.

People violently attacked me for even questioning it.

Buut since you don't seem to plan on doing that this time...

The first thing I would say needs to go are member forums. Mostly dead and mostly empty, they don't really need to clutter the forum layout. The one or two which are active can just be made normal forums.

Starting from the bottom..

the 'Parents' forum is overlapped by some others in content, and is inactive. I doubt we really need that one.

Things that Suck and Venting are practically the same. I don't see how it'd be impossible to merge them, but I dunno.

The Battle Board serves primarily to waste space; I am unsure if it really has any purpose when you have a more mature version of it sitting right above it.

Something should be done about the problematic status of which forum is the best place to speak about Mario. Honestly, Sean Kelly answers to Shane, not the other way around, and SMBHQ is supposed to be all about Mario. I don't see why he should be allowed to have his own personal dead forum. In that, the Mario: Land of Pipes which was made originally and then the modship of such graciously given to me back when even though I didn't deserve it, should be deleted, and Mario content allowed on the SMBHQ forum, regardless of what Sean Kelly says.

I say that part not out of hatred of Sean Kelly, but rather logic. SMBHQ would probably be helped if it had a proper community of people discussing stuff again. Wheras right now it has a dysfunctional emptiness.

(Then again, the same logic goes for many Member forums.)

And finally, the Guitar Hero forum doesn't seem very lively to me.

Now, I will end this with a disclaimer.

In the past, I mentioned how there were too many forums, and people yelled at me then, and then I did stupid things in response. This time, if you yell at me, I will not defeat myself so easily.

**X-3** · 02-06-2008, 03:46 PM

The Guitar Hero forum was made just a few months ago, yet it's quite active. Plus, I'm seeing all sorts of newbies flocking to it...

SMBHQ should go, while the other one becomes the "main" Mario forum.

Things that Suck=/=Venting

Many of the Member Forums should go, mainly the dead ones, like my Capcom forum(

).

Point is, there's little reason to get rid of these forums, and getting rid of them would be a big waste of time.

***Ynot Shane*** · 02-06-2008, 04:17 PM

If you're posting an opinion that's the same as Metal Man, I think we all know how this is going to end up.

Metal Man · 02-06-2008, 05:17 PM

This time I draw the line, Shane. No, not against your implied denial of deleting forums. I don't really care in that case, 'cause it's your forum. If it were mine and somebody said "Delete X forum" do you think I'd do it either? No! So I have no problem with that.

But the whole 'If Metal Man likes it, ...' fad is dead. You're 2 years out of date, Shane. Nappy posts this topic and Wyborn asks people to try to debate it logically. I post my opinion and you insult me. <sarcasm> Do I have to attack the board first to make it stop? </sarcasm>

Let's put this whole illogical thing to rest and talk about this like adults, Shane. I was an idiot when I yelled around those years ago, but now I'm not, and if you're going to treat me like one still, it just makes you look immature. Heck, I'll drop whatever fragmentary remnants of my 'Crazy Shane' remarks I used to throw around are left.

Of course, if you keep on doing it, it's not going to really slow me down--I just feel it violates the spirit of what Wyborn said up above.

***Ynot Shane*** · 02-06-2008, 05:34 PM

Don't joke with Metal Man. Check.

Metal Man · 02-06-2008, 05:49 PM

Yes. That would be it.

Thanks.

Uh, er. As for the forum deleting thing, yeah. I guess that isn't going anywhere.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 02-06-2008, 05:58 PM

What's the problem? No one's making any of you go to the Member Forums. In fact, you can minimise the list so that they don't even show up on the forum index. Scroll down to the "Member Forum" header and click

on the far right of the page.

Now you can all stop complaining about the Member Forums.

Now, as for deleting =forums for inactivity? Nah, too much effort. Easier just to let them fester. >:]

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not everybody wants to bother checking every single board for every single topic

And not everybody wants to deal with a pile of topics in a single forum, either.

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2. Others may disagree, but I personally like that unrelated topics are relegated to their own boards. I consider it a time-saver not to have to wade through a bunch of threads I don't care about, which is something I'd have to do if, say, they combined all the 'entertainment' boards, for instance.

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Point is, there's little reason to get rid of these forums, and getting rid of them would be a big waste of time.

...Besides, MM thinks it's a good idea. That means it must suck.

02-06-2008, 02:40 AM	#1
Benito Mussolini Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	VGF has way too many forums for a too small memberbase huge problem-- not everybody wants to bother checking every single board for every single topic and most of these forums are useless and can be cluttered into a cover-all mb ic an see the point of having ALOT of forums for a really active board but vgf isnt active enough to warrant so many discussion hives what do you guys think

02-06-2008, 03:46 PM	#15
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,943 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	The Guitar Hero forum was made just a few months ago, yet it's quite active. Plus, I'm seeing all sorts of newbies flocking to it... SMBHQ should go, while the other one becomes the "main" Mario forum. Things that Suck=/=Venting Many of the Member Forums should go, mainly the dead ones, like my Capcom forum(). Point is, there's little reason to get rid of these forums, and getting rid of them would be a big waste of time.

02-06-2008, 04:17 PM	#16
*Ynot Shane* Not Ready to Make Nice Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Flaflooga Gender: Posts: 132,163 Thanks: 46 Thanked 604 Times in 317 Posts	If you're posting an opinion that's the same as Metal Man, I think we all know how this is going to end up. __________________ Remember that book store? Well, they became one of those books and coffee places, and now they're just coffee. It's like evolution, only without getting the better part.

02-06-2008, 05:34 PM	#18
*Ynot Shane* Not Ready to Make Nice Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Flaflooga Gender: Posts: 132,163 Thanks: 46 Thanked 604 Times in 317 Posts	Don't joke with Metal Man. Check. __________________ Remember that book store? Well, they became one of those books and coffee places, and now they're just coffee. It's like evolution, only without getting the better part.

02-06-2008, 02:47 AM	#2
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	Let's not turn this into a flamefest, people, it's something to talk about. Just putting this out there before anybody jumps on this guy (either because of his opinions or because of who he is).

02-06-2008, 06:50 AM	#3
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	~~fascist!~~ Well, we do have way to many fourms. Do we need all those annoying member boards? Among other things people don't post in, most of those are the most inactive.

02-06-2008, 07:11 AM	#4
jigglypuffer Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Gender: Posts: 2,012 Thanks: 63 Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts	That's what I find charming about VGF, it dares be enormous to please an average-sized population. Although for that matter, I probably haven't ever visited 60% of the available forums.

02-06-2008, 08:51 AM	#5
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	1. The forums haven't always been this inactive, and there's no guarantee they always will be. 2. Others may disagree, but I personally like that unrelated topics are relegated to their own boards. I consider it a time-saver not to have to wade through a bunch of threads I don't care about, which is something I'd have to do if, say, they combined all the 'entertainment' boards, for instance.

02-06-2008, 09:00 AM	#6
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,274 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Yeah, there's a few forums that could be culled/archived (re: those which don't have a latest post in this year), but otherwise it's reasonable.

02-06-2008, 09:57 AM	#7
Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wv Gender: Posts: 1,369 Thanks: 48 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts	it brings up a good point... I think most of the member forums should be done away with just because the really are just sub forums. of some other forum.

02-06-2008, 10:42 AM	#8
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	NO! ..... ..... yes

02-06-2008, 01:30 PM	#10
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,943 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	I don't see much of a point, really, considering a lot of those forums are somewhat-active enough to stay around. Though, I'll be honest, those Member Forums can go.

02-06-2008, 01:59 PM	#11
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	Stop that. Each time you say "get rid of the Member Forums" You make me want to cry....

02-06-2008, 02:05 PM	#12
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	breathes inget rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums, get rid of the Member Forums. /being nasty

02-06-2008, 02:10 PM	#13
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46

02-06-2008, 03:29 PM	#14
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	I already brought this up. People violently attacked me for even questioning it. Buut since you don't seem to plan on doing that this time... The first thing I would say needs to go are member forums. Mostly dead and mostly empty, they don't really need to clutter the forum layout. The one or two which are active can just be made normal forums. Starting from the bottom.. the 'Parents' forum is overlapped by some others in content, and is inactive. I doubt we really need that one. Things that Suck and Venting are practically the same. I don't see how it'd be impossible to merge them, but I dunno. The Battle Board serves primarily to waste space; I am unsure if it really has any purpose when you have a more mature version of it sitting right above it. Something should be done about the problematic status of which forum is the best place to speak about Mario. Honestly, Sean Kelly answers to Shane, not the other way around, and SMBHQ is supposed to be all about Mario. I don't see why he should be allowed to have his own personal dead forum. In that, the Mario: Land of Pipes which was made originally and then the modship of such graciously given to me back when even though I didn't deserve it, should be deleted, and Mario content allowed on the SMBHQ forum, regardless of what Sean Kelly says. I say that part not out of hatred of Sean Kelly, but rather logic. SMBHQ would probably be helped if it had a proper community of people discussing stuff again. Wheras right now it has a dysfunctional emptiness. (Then again, the same logic goes for many Member forums.) And finally, the Guitar Hero forum doesn't seem very lively to me. Now, I will end this with a disclaimer. In the past, I mentioned how there were too many forums, and people yelled at me then, and then I did stupid things in response. This time, if you yell at me, I will not defeat myself so easily.

02-06-2008, 05:17 PM	#17
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	This time I draw the line, Shane. No, not against your implied denial of deleting forums. I don't really care in that case, 'cause it's your forum. If it were mine and somebody said "Delete X forum" do you think I'd do it either? No! So I have no problem with that. But the whole 'If Metal Man likes it, ...' fad is dead. You're 2 years out of date, Shane. Nappy posts this topic and Wyborn asks people to try to debate it logically. I post my opinion and you insult me. <sarcasm> Do I have to attack the board first to make it stop? </sarcasm> Let's put this whole illogical thing to rest and talk about this like adults, Shane. I was an idiot when I yelled around those years ago, but now I'm not, and if you're going to treat me like one still, it just makes you look immature. Heck, I'll drop whatever fragmentary remnants of my 'Crazy Shane' remarks I used to throw around are left. Of course, if you keep on doing it, it's not going to really slow me down--I just feel it violates the spirit of what Wyborn said up above.

02-06-2008, 05:49 PM	#19
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Yes. That would be it. Thanks. Uh, er. As for the forum deleting thing, yeah. I guess that isn't going anywhere.