WoT 94 is open again, but Val still has SML's boot up his ass - Page 24

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-28-2007, 11:41 PM

Lockjaw is very different.
T-spins aren't an aspect of a game, they're an aspect of a rotation system. What spins works depends on the rotation system. You can't clear 3 lines with a T in Gameboy Tetris or TGM. If you don't like T-spins, you can change the rotation system. The ones I know of are SRS, ARS, TOD, Tengen, and Nintendo (GB/NES) Or, if you like the T-spins but not the scoring? You can change to a scoring system that doesn't reward them.
So whether or not it has T-spins is up to you.
Everything else is customizable too. The speed curve - try out 'death mode' for a challenge, the number of piece previews (one to eight), whether you have hold piece or not, the gravity type (try out cascade gravity, naive is default), the lock delay, the sideways speed, the piece generator, and so many other things. Even the size of the playfield is customizable. It has support for skins, which a guy at tetrisconcept took advantage of and made like 100, even the size of the playfield is customizable. It really is 'Tetris the way you want it.'

Young Edsel · 07-28-2007, 11:43 PM

Val: 3
Panfan: 5
SML: 1
Pix: 5
Mart: 1
Galefore: 2
Bartman: 1
Typhlame: 3
Tazy: 1
Saeed: 2

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-28-2007, 11:45 PM

Bartman101 · 07-28-2007, 11:47 PM

Valigarmander · 07-29-2007, 06:01 AM

Good morning, world.

Quote:

...WTF is Empty?

He does a lot of the Princess Peach artwork out there.

Big Daddy · 07-29-2007, 12:35 PM

So uhh... who likes dead rising?

Typhlame. Deal with it. · 07-29-2007, 12:37 PM

^My friend Landon.

Big Daddy · 07-29-2007, 12:39 PM

Yeah well... he's not a VGF member so I can't discuss it.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-29-2007, 12:40 PM

Big Daddy · 07-29-2007, 12:41 PM

^ I just want to say that Dead rising OWNS Tetris... hard.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-29-2007, 12:45 PM

No one will be playing Dead Rising in twenty years, but people will still be playing Tetris, as they've already been doing for twenty years. Dead Rising will never have the replay value Tetris has.

Big Daddy · 07-29-2007, 12:47 PM

Mmmmhmmm keep thinkin' that.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-29-2007, 12:49 PM

Really? You think a game with a storyline can outlive an abstract puzzle game? And you think Dead Rising will last 20 years?

Typhlame. Deal with it. · 07-29-2007, 12:54 PM

Click to view video.

Big Daddy · 07-29-2007, 01:00 PM

^^ the storyline is opitional.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-29-2007, 01:09 PM

So, what, there's an endless 'survival' mode? Games like these need plots to help drive them. Either way, the fun decreases over time as you go through the same storyline (sure, multiple endings, but it doesn't do much) or play a pointless endless mode which gets boring quickly. And, yes, tetris's endless mode is also boring, which is why not a single good tetris player I know plays endless except for practice.
Plot-driven games are a lot of fun on the first playthrough, but they lack staying power.

Young Edsel · 07-29-2007, 01:14 PM

Dead Rising > Tetris?

LOL NO

Tazy_10 · 07-29-2007, 01:15 PM

He's got you there, kr

**March of the Covenant** · 07-29-2007, 01:22 PM

g'afternoon

Tazy_10 · 07-29-2007, 01:33 PM

07-28-2007, 11:45 PM	#463
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07-28-2007, 11:41 PM	#461
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,593 Thanks: 30 Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts Points: 418.54 Bank: 32,290.67 Total Points: 32,709.21 Donate	Lockjaw is very different. T-spins aren't an aspect of a game, they're an aspect of a rotation system. What spins works depends on the rotation system. You can't clear 3 lines with a T in Gameboy Tetris or TGM. If you don't like T-spins, you can change the rotation system. The ones I know of are SRS, ARS, TOD, Tengen, and Nintendo (GB/NES) Or, if you like the T-spins but not the scoring? You can change to a scoring system that doesn't reward them. So whether or not it has T-spins is up to you. Everything else is customizable too. The speed curve - try out 'death mode' for a challenge, the number of piece previews (one to eight), whether you have hold piece or not, the gravity type (try out cascade gravity, naive is default), the lock delay, the sideways speed, the piece generator, and so many other things. Even the size of the playfield is customizable. It has support for skins, which a guy at tetrisconcept took advantage of and made like 100, even the size of the playfield is customizable. It really is 'Tetris the way you want it.'

07-28-2007, 11:43 PM	#462
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07-29-2007, 12:37 PM	#467
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07-29-2007, 12:41 PM	#470
Big Daddy Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rapture Gender: Posts: 1,109 Thanks: 25 Thanked 38 Times in 22 Posts Points: 128.00 Bank: 10,939.93 Total Points: 11,067.93 Donate	^ I just want to say that Dead rising OWNS Tetris... hard.

07-29-2007, 12:45 PM	#471
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,593 Thanks: 30 Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts Points: 418.54 Bank: 32,290.67 Total Points: 32,709.21 Donate	No one will be playing Dead Rising in twenty years, but people will still be playing Tetris, as they've already been doing for twenty years. Dead Rising will never have the replay value Tetris has.

07-29-2007, 12:47 PM	#472
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07-29-2007, 12:49 PM	#473
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,593 Thanks: 30 Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts Points: 418.54 Bank: 32,290.67 Total Points: 32,709.21 Donate	Really? You think a game with a storyline can outlive an abstract puzzle game? And you think Dead Rising will last 20 years?

07-29-2007, 01:00 PM	#475
Big Daddy Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rapture Gender: Posts: 1,109 Thanks: 25 Thanked 38 Times in 22 Posts Points: 128.00 Bank: 10,939.93 Total Points: 11,067.93 Donate	^^ the storyline is opitional.

07-29-2007, 01:09 PM	#476
Mikhail Gorbachev Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Gender: Posts: 9,593 Thanks: 30 Thanked 81 Times in 65 Posts Points: 418.54 Bank: 32,290.67 Total Points: 32,709.21 Donate	So, what, there's an endless 'survival' mode? Games like these need plots to help drive them. Either way, the fun decreases over time as you go through the same storyline (sure, multiple endings, but it doesn't do much) or play a pointless endless mode which gets boring quickly. And, yes, tetris's endless mode is also boring, which is why not a single good tetris player I know plays endless except for practice. Plot-driven games are a lot of fun on the first playthrough, but they lack staying power.

07-29-2007, 01:14 PM	#477
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07-29-2007, 01:15 PM	#478
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