Super Mario: Minus Worlds

TheMasterSwordsman · 06-15-2006, 08:46 PM

There is a rumor that there is a second Minus World in Super Mario Bros. for the NES. The second one is like, well, the regular game, except when you finish a level, the next level's time limit is the time you had left when you finished the previous level. If you're scratching your head saying, Huh? then maybe you should take an example.

World -1-1
Time Remaining at Finish: 98

World -1-2
Time Remaining at Start: 98

Is this a true rumor? I've seen it done, but I was really young, and I can't remember how it was done. All I remember was the Minus World concept. Is this true?

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-15-2006, 09:29 PM

The original Minus World is accessible by breaking the 3rd ceiling block from the pipe at the end of the underground portion of world 1-2, and jumping so that you move backwards at such an angle so you bypass the hit detection and travel through the wall into the warp zone. Go down the pipe, and you're tossed into a never-ending water level.

I'm sure you already know that, but I figured I might as well reiterate.

There is one spot where you can jump over the flag at the end of a level, it involves the scale platforms in the 3rd level of one of the worlds. If you manage to jump over the flag, all you will get is to run beyond the castle into an empty and unending path. You will run out of time, and start back from whereever you're supposed to.

There are no more minus worlds, if there were, they would have been found by now. The closest thing I can think of is using a hack to get into world 1-0, which is actually one of the castle levels submerged in water.

So no, this rumor is not true.

Codiekitty · 06-15-2006, 09:48 PM

What AI means by "never-ending water level" is that when you get to the pipe it just takes you back to the beginning. Not that the level itself goes on forever.

>_> <_<

I wanna see the submerged castle.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

MC Luigi · 06-20-2006, 10:07 AM

I remember hearing about -1-2 somewhere, but I don't think this is true. I jumped over the flag before, and it was wierd.

Tails the Fox · 06-20-2006, 04:34 PM

wait, anyone have a savestate of said castle level? 1-0?

DK · 06-24-2006, 10:47 PM

I used to. I'll try to get it back.

Startropic1 · 06-25-2006, 09:00 AM

Actually there is some truth to this rumour. After Nintendo found out about this little glitch, they made it into a full fledged world (ie. -1-1, -1-2, etc.), in a later version of SMB1 on NES. This version of the game is only available in Japan however. (Might even be the FDS version, I can't remember exactly.)

For those wondering, you can do the minus world trick in the Super Mario Allstars version on SNES, but it will NOT take you to the minus world, the warp pipes will just function normally.

ScottyMcGee · 06-25-2006, 01:21 PM

What about the Super Mario Brothers Deluxe version for the game boy color?

Startropic1 · 06-25-2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyMcGee

What about the Super Mario Brothers Deluxe version for the game boy color?

I haven't tried it in that version.

TheMasterSwordsman · 07-11-2006, 09:11 AM

According to The Mushroom Kingdom (a Mario fansite), it has been fixed in Super Mario Bros. DX for the GBC. But on the NES, you can get a savestate that demonstrate how to enter the minus worlds. I don't use emulators, I was mislead into thinking it could be considered a "backup" or "archival" copy. According to Nintendo, that was a misconception. But anyway, you can't do it on SMB DX. Sigh.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-11-2006, 09:50 PM

It's not like anyone's going to arrest you for having a SMB rom. You really have to stop and think if it's going to matter whether or not you're playing SMB on your computer - you probably already own the game, or could for a buck or two from any exchange place(which they will not see one dime of), and Nintendo isn't ever going to put out that software on the PC. They're not somehow losing income because people are playing games from outdated systems on their PCs. It's really their own fault that they let most of the titles go out of print.

TheMasterSwordsman · 07-12-2006, 10:12 AM

Taking that into consideration... umm, I already deleted my ROMs and emulators. But we need to stay on topic. I still have to say, I still want to see the submerged castle too!

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-12-2006, 01:13 PM

I wish I could remember the Game Genie code that brought it up for you folks. An interesting thing I remember - after you beat the castle, the game plays through like normal. Except, if you die, it always takes you back to that first castle level.

And it's all right to trail off topic a bit. I'm not the strictest of moderators, I just ask that you keep the discussion older gaming systems and their software.

TheMasterSwordsman · 07-14-2006, 05:28 PM

If anybody has played the NES Super Mario Bros. ROM with the (peverted name) NESticle emulator, and played the Minus Worlds ROM movie, then you should know about the Minus world. This agrees with what Startropic1 said.

Kernell · 08-15-2006, 01:10 PM

In which versions of SMB does this work on? All Stars? GBA?

TheMasterSwordsman · 08-16-2006, 03:08 PM

I think it works on the second Japanese release of Super Mario Bros. 1. Possibly different from all opinions is the Minus World version on the Famicom Disk System.

JaredThaJa888 · 09-20-2006, 11:02 PM

Everytime I've tried to Acces Minus World I fail. It's harder then the description above makes it sound.

comeonman1111 · 11-11-2006, 02:33 PM

I should try to do this on the Super mario bros NES game on animal crossing. I used an action replay to get that NES game...and i'm gonna try to see if the minus worlds are still in there. I can tell you now that the graphical glitches are still very noticeable on the edges.

Goomball · 03-19-2007, 02:44 AM

In the Family computer japenese version of SMB, there is 3 worlds. one is an underwater/land utopia with peach as an enemy. the second is a land with bridges and cheep-cheeps.the last is a crazy underwater castle with bloopers.

BLUEDASH2 · 03-21-2007, 08:11 PM

the glich is possible in the super mario bros. game for gba also and i know a way to combined levels in smb(retro) just pm me if you want to know

06-15-2006, 08:46 PM	#1
TheMasterSwordsman Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Carolina Gender: Posts: 135 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Super Mario: Minus Worlds There is a rumor that there is a second Minus World in Super Mario Bros. for the NES. The second one is like, well, the regular game, except when you finish a level, the next level's time limit is the time you had left when you finished the previous level. If you're scratching your head saying, Huh? then maybe you should take an example. World -1-1 Time Remaining at Finish: 98 World -1-2 Time Remaining at Start: 98 Is this a true rumor? I've seen it done, but I was really young, and I can't remember how it was done. All I remember was the Minus World concept. Is this true?

06-15-2006, 09:29 PM	#2
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	The original Minus World is accessible by breaking the 3rd ceiling block from the pipe at the end of the underground portion of world 1-2, and jumping so that you move backwards at such an angle so you bypass the hit detection and travel through the wall into the warp zone. Go down the pipe, and you're tossed into a never-ending water level. I'm sure you already know that, but I figured I might as well reiterate. There is one spot where you can jump over the flag at the end of a level, it involves the scale platforms in the 3rd level of one of the worlds. If you manage to jump over the flag, all you will get is to run beyond the castle into an empty and unending path. You will run out of time, and start back from whereever you're supposed to. There are no more minus worlds, if there were, they would have been found by now. The closest thing I can think of is using a hack to get into world 1-0, which is actually one of the castle levels submerged in water. So no, this rumor is not true.

06-15-2006, 09:48 PM	#3
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,142 Thanks: 121 Thanked 176 Times in 121 Posts	What AI means by "never-ending water level" is that when you get to the pipe it just takes you back to the beginning. Not that the level itself goes on forever. >_> <_< I wanna see the submerged castle. Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

06-20-2006, 10:07 AM	#4
MC Luigi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In YO FACE Gender: Posts: 1,033 Thanks: 41 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	I remember hearing about -1-2 somewhere, but I don't think this is true. I jumped over the flag before, and it was wierd.

06-20-2006, 04:34 PM	#5
Tails the Fox Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fox Sanctuary Gender: Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wait, anyone have a savestate of said castle level? 1-0?

06-24-2006, 10:47 PM	#6
DK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Gender: Posts: 3,003 Thanks: 43 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts	I used to. I'll try to get it back.

06-25-2006, 09:00 AM	#7
Startropic1 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually there is some truth to this rumour. After Nintendo found out about this little glitch, they made it into a full fledged world (ie. -1-1, -1-2, etc.), in a later version of SMB1 on NES. This version of the game is only available in Japan however. (Might even be the FDS version, I can't remember exactly.) For those wondering, you can do the minus world trick in the Super Mario Allstars version on SNES, but it will NOT take you to the minus world, the warp pipes will just function normally.

06-25-2006, 01:21 PM	#8
ScottyMcGee Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the far side of the moon Gender: Posts: 185 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	What about the Super Mario Brothers Deluxe version for the game boy color?

07-11-2006, 09:11 AM	#10
TheMasterSwordsman Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Carolina Gender: Posts: 135 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	According to The Mushroom Kingdom (a Mario fansite), it has been fixed in Super Mario Bros. DX for the GBC. But on the NES, you can get a savestate that demonstrate how to enter the minus worlds. I don't use emulators, I was mislead into thinking it could be considered a "backup" or "archival" copy. According to Nintendo, that was a misconception. But anyway, you can't do it on SMB DX. Sigh.

07-11-2006, 09:50 PM	#11
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	It's not like anyone's going to arrest you for having a SMB rom. You really have to stop and think if it's going to matter whether or not you're playing SMB on your computer - you probably already own the game, or could for a buck or two from any exchange place(which they will not see one dime of), and Nintendo isn't ever going to put out that software on the PC. They're not somehow losing income because people are playing games from outdated systems on their PCs. It's really their own fault that they let most of the titles go out of print.

07-12-2006, 10:12 AM	#12
TheMasterSwordsman Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Carolina Gender: Posts: 135 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Taking that into consideration... umm, I already deleted my ROMs and emulators. But we need to stay on topic. I still have to say, I still want to see the submerged castle too!

07-12-2006, 01:13 PM	#13
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	I wish I could remember the Game Genie code that brought it up for you folks. An interesting thing I remember - after you beat the castle, the game plays through like normal. Except, if you die, it always takes you back to that first castle level. And it's all right to trail off topic a bit. I'm not the strictest of moderators, I just ask that you keep the discussion older gaming systems and their software.

07-14-2006, 05:28 PM	#14
TheMasterSwordsman Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Carolina Gender: Posts: 135 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If anybody has played the NES Super Mario Bros. ROM with the (peverted name) NESticle emulator, and played the Minus Worlds ROM movie, then you should know about the Minus world. This agrees with what Startropic1 said.

08-15-2006, 01:10 PM	#15
Kernell Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Gender: Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	In which versions of SMB does this work on? All Stars? GBA?

08-16-2006, 03:08 PM	#16
TheMasterSwordsman Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: South Carolina Gender: Posts: 135 Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I think it works on the second Japanese release of Super Mario Bros. 1. Possibly different from all opinions is the Minus World version on the Famicom Disk System.

09-20-2006, 11:02 PM	#17
JaredThaJa888 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Racine Wisconsin Gender: Posts: 676 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Everytime I've tried to Acces Minus World I fail. It's harder then the description above makes it sound.

11-11-2006, 02:33 PM	#18
comeonman1111 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Posts: 153 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I should try to do this on the Super mario bros NES game on animal crossing. I used an action replay to get that NES game...and i'm gonna try to see if the minus worlds are still in there. I can tell you now that the graphical glitches are still very noticeable on the edges.

03-19-2007, 02:44 AM	#19
Goomball Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Gender: Posts: 16 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	In the Family computer japenese version of SMB, there is 3 worlds. one is an underwater/land utopia with peach as an enemy. the second is a land with bridges and cheep-cheeps.the last is a crazy underwater castle with bloopers.

03-21-2007, 08:11 PM	#20
BLUEDASH2 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Posts: 186 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the glich is possible in the super mario bros. game for gba also and i know a way to combined levels in smb(retro) just pm me if you want to know