Old games that could really be improved by a remake?

Sim Kid · 07-04-2009, 11:14 PM

Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together would be the obvious one. I mostly say this because it was a very rare game, like more or less every Ogre battle game that was ported to the U.S, and a remake could really help it.

-The plot was terribly translated
I think it was translated pretty poorly. Not as bad as Revelations: Persona but still bad enough for you to not exactly get everything. The story wasn't that complex but I think it ws still pretty good. I liked the use of the ethnic fights and how there is an ethnic cleansing. Plus, there was quite a ncie world. One of the things I liked about this game was that while the paths were rather linear and were the "A or B" type, they still affect characters around the story. Characters have slightly different personalities in different chapters of the story and they even play different roles, some show up, some don't, and I liked that. That's also why I went crazy over covenant of the Plume.

-i think it could use some leaked experience.
It's got literally double the capacity of Final Fantasy Tactics. That game only limited you to 5 characters. Knight of Lodis limited you to 8. Covenant of the Plume had you only use 4. And of course it's going to to be rather difficult to level some characters up. I like the system that Jeanne d'arc used, except maybe I would probably make it so that only the characters on the battlefield actually get experience. There are some maps where you have literally 13 people on your side against like 7 opponents....and the leader is RIGHT THERE so yeah, utter rape.

-Not making your characters have to equip consumables.
Because they took up space! LUCT only had four inventory spaces as opposed to Knight of Lodis having like 6! And when you consider that before you have multiple healers or a warlock with heal rain, that's a lotta space you could be using for armour.

-Rebalancing some of the classes.
Unless you were fighting undead, Exorcists were pretty much useless. Sure they could use heal but that's more or less all they were useful for. Their stats weren't that good either, really. I found they were better off as liches, ironically.

**Valigarmander** · 07-04-2009, 11:21 PM

Metroid 2. At least, they could give it the Zero Mission treatment. This is a game I'd really like to see translated onto a modern handheld.

Metal Man · 07-04-2009, 11:56 PM

Perfect Da--ohwait, they're doing that.
Goldeneye. Freaking impossible to get all the licensing and Rare to do it, but, if it could be moved to the Perfect Dark engine and voiceovers given, it'd become totally epic.

Also it wouldn't hurt for the Perfect Dark remake to include Bond weapons in multiplayer.

Dr. Furball · 07-05-2009, 01:41 AM

I'd like to see a Kid Icarus remake in a similar vein to what was done with "Punch-Out!!".
Y'know, by having the gameplay itself be mostly the same, but expanding the story a bit and adding more playable content (like PO!!'s Title Defense) to make it a game on it's own...if that makes any sense.
Personally, I'd like it to have a bright, cartoony look to it, similar to how the official art for the game looked as opposed to going the route of say, Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

**Valigarmander** · 07-05-2009, 01:43 AM

^ I think Kid Icarus is being discussed for a sequel on the Wii. It'd probably have the same kind of gameplay, or would build off the gameplay of the original games. I don't think they're looking for a remake, though.

Blake · 07-05-2009, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Metal Man

Perfect Da--ohwait, they're doing that.
Goldeneye. Freaking impossible to get all the licensing and Rare to do it, but, if it could be moved to the Perfect Dark engine and voiceovers given, it'd become totally epic.

Also it wouldn't hurt for the Perfect Dark remake to include Bond weapons in multiplayer.

You forgot the most important thing... co-op mode!!

Co-op mode would make Goldeneye 10x better than Perfect Dark's co-op, seriously. While PD's missions were still good, nothing beats the unique level designs that Goldeneye had. (Freaking Siberia snowland missions pwn all

)

Dizzy · 07-06-2009, 08:27 PM

Any SCUMM game would be great on the Wii.

1-up Salesman · 07-08-2009, 02:31 PM

The SNES Fire Emblems. I'd really like to play those on the DS.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-08-2009, 02:51 PM

Remakes. At the top of the pile, I'd put Earthbound.

1-up Salesman · 07-08-2009, 02:57 PM

I know.

Zharen · 07-09-2009, 12:35 AM

The Original StarFox. Would love to see that get the wii treatment.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-09-2009, 04:45 AM

^ A decent SF sequel would be awesome, but they haven't really made a good Star Fox game since SF64, and I don't think Nintendo is willing to admit that hiring out the franchise to external dev groups has caused a hit in quality. I'm pretty sure Star Fox 64 was intended to be a remake, strangely enough.

I second the Metroid II remake, although I honestly think the original is a timeless classic. Amazing content and scope for an old B&W gameboy game.

I think Nintendo should bring back Lolo. There's a few others that I'd love to see a return of, too, but I don't really have any desire for most games to be remade. I love the oldschool look and feel, and that's what the Retro forum is all about. I'm all about making new games in the oldschool style, after seeing Mega Man 9 pull it off so well.

Sim Kid · 07-09-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1-up salesman

The SNES Fire Emblems. I'd really like to play those on the DS.

Preferably with some tweaks made to it though, and no not just graphics.

Sometimes it was ungodly hard because all it took was just one wrong move and the entire stage is ****ed, whereas even in Shadow Dragon you could still save it by making a wrong move. :/ but Shadow Dragon DOES have like 6 difficulty levels....

One thing would definitely be making Beldo actually pose a threat. >.< he's PATHETIC!

And the SCUMM Games? Definitely would work on the Wii! Same with Clock tower: The First Fear. I'd definitely buy that game if it were remade!

1-up Salesman · 07-10-2009, 11:25 AM

^^ Star Fox: Assault wasn't as good as SF64, but it was pretty good.

Dizzy · 07-10-2009, 02:42 PM

^My biggest complaint was how ****ing short it was.

Microphone_Kirby · 07-10-2009, 04:20 PM

^ For a single playthrough? SF64 was shorter in that regard.
My complaint was that it (SF:A) was too linear; no branching paths.
I still liked it though...

**X-3** · 07-10-2009, 05:48 PM

There's a difference in their shortness: SF64 was short, but had many paths for you to take. Assault was just short. I too liked Assault, though.

THINKING

Random User · 07-11-2009, 10:24 PM

Hooray! I wanted a remake for G/S/C and their making one! Old news, but still.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-13-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 1-up salesman

^^ Star Fox: Assault wasn't as good as SF64, but it was pretty good.

That one made by Namco? That sucked, compared to 64.

Blake · 07-13-2009, 01:17 PM

One of Assault's greatest downfalls I think was the voice acting.

On the flip side, one of SF64's greatest features was very well voice acting.

What also frustrated me was the emphasis on foot missions which strayed away from the 'shoot em up' arcade style of the former Star Fox games(excluding adventures obviously). And then of course the whole siding with wolf thing in a mission or two...

07-04-2009, 11:14 PM	#1
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Old games that could really be improved by a remake? Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together would be the obvious one. I mostly say this because it was a very rare game, like more or less every Ogre battle game that was ported to the U.S, and a remake could really help it. -The plot was terribly translated I think it was translated pretty poorly. Not as bad as Revelations: Persona but still bad enough for you to not exactly get everything. The story wasn't that complex but I think it ws still pretty good. I liked the use of the ethnic fights and how there is an ethnic cleansing. Plus, there was quite a ncie world. One of the things I liked about this game was that while the paths were rather linear and were the "A or B" type, they still affect characters around the story. Characters have slightly different personalities in different chapters of the story and they even play different roles, some show up, some don't, and I liked that. That's also why I went crazy over covenant of the Plume. -i think it could use some leaked experience. It's got literally double the capacity of Final Fantasy Tactics. That game only limited you to 5 characters. Knight of Lodis limited you to 8. Covenant of the Plume had you only use 4. And of course it's going to to be rather difficult to level some characters up. I like the system that Jeanne d'arc used, except maybe I would probably make it so that only the characters on the battlefield actually get experience. There are some maps where you have literally 13 people on your side against like 7 opponents....and the leader is RIGHT THERE so yeah, utter rape. -Not making your characters have to equip consumables. Because they took up space! LUCT only had four inventory spaces as opposed to Knight of Lodis having like 6! And when you consider that before you have multiple healers or a warlock with heal rain, that's a lotta space you could be using for armour. -Rebalancing some of the classes. Unless you were fighting undead, Exorcists were pretty much useless. Sure they could use heal but that's more or less all they were useful for. Their stats weren't that good either, really. I found they were better off as liches, ironically.

07-04-2009, 11:21 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Metroid 2. At least, they could give it the Zero Mission treatment. This is a game I'd really like to see translated onto a modern handheld.

07-04-2009, 11:56 PM	#3
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Perfect Da--ohwait, they're doing that. Goldeneye. Freaking impossible to get all the licensing and Rare to do it, but, if it could be moved to the Perfect Dark engine and voiceovers given, it'd become totally epic. Also it wouldn't hurt for the Perfect Dark remake to include Bond weapons in multiplayer.

07-05-2009, 01:41 AM	#4
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,125 Thanks: 185 Thanked 97 Times in 60 Posts	I'd like to see a Kid Icarus remake in a similar vein to what was done with "Punch-Out!!". Y'know, by having the gameplay itself be mostly the same, but expanding the story a bit and adding more playable content (like PO!!'s Title Defense) to make it a game on it's own...if that makes any sense. Personally, I'd like it to have a bright, cartoony look to it, similar to how the official art for the game looked as opposed to going the route of say, Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

07-05-2009, 01:43 AM	#5
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^ I think Kid Icarus is being discussed for a sequel on the Wii. It'd probably have the same kind of gameplay, or would build off the gameplay of the original games. I don't think they're looking for a remake, though.

07-06-2009, 08:27 PM	#7
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Any SCUMM game would be great on the Wii.

07-08-2009, 02:31 PM	#8
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07-08-2009, 02:51 PM	#9
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07-09-2009, 12:35 AM	#11
Zharen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Modesto, CA U.S. Gender: Posts: 7,085 Thanks: 21 Thanked 71 Times in 35 Posts	The Original StarFox. Would love to see that get the wii treatment.

07-09-2009, 04:45 AM	#12
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	^ A decent SF sequel would be awesome, but they haven't really made a good Star Fox game since SF64, and I don't think Nintendo is willing to admit that hiring out the franchise to external dev groups has caused a hit in quality. I'm pretty sure Star Fox 64 was intended to be a remake, strangely enough. I second the Metroid II remake, although I honestly think the original is a timeless classic. Amazing content and scope for an old B&W gameboy game. I think Nintendo should bring back Lolo. There's a few others that I'd love to see a return of, too, but I don't really have any desire for most games to be remade. I love the oldschool look and feel, and that's what the Retro forum is all about. I'm all about making new games in the oldschool style, after seeing Mega Man 9 pull it off so well.

07-10-2009, 11:25 AM	#14
1-up Salesman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Letting you guys know that I'm planning on continuing Attack of the Spammers soon. Gender: Posts: 4,095 Thanks: 2,162 Thanked 250 Times in 194 Posts Blog Entries: 9	^^ Star Fox: Assault wasn't as good as SF64, but it was pretty good.

07-10-2009, 02:42 PM	#15
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	^My biggest complaint was how ****ing short it was.

07-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#16
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: None of your business. Gender: Posts: 7,155 Thanks: 559 Thanked 225 Times in 181 Posts Blog Entries: 6	^ For a single playthrough? SF64 was shorter in that regard. My complaint was that it (SF:A) was too linear; no branching paths. I still liked it though...

07-10-2009, 05:48 PM	#17
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	There's a difference in their shortness: SF64 was short, but had many paths for you to take. Assault was just short. I too liked Assault, though. THINKING

07-11-2009, 10:24 PM	#18
Random User Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Equestrian Republic of Spanglidesh Gender: Posts: 3,562 Thanks: 321 Thanked 195 Times in 143 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Hooray! I wanted a remake for G/S/C and their making one! Old news, but still.

07-13-2009, 01:17 PM	#20
Blake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A generic place such as a house Gender: Posts: 4,628 Thanks: 1,489 Thanked 206 Times in 148 Posts	One of Assault's greatest downfalls I think was the voice acting. On the flip side, one of SF64's greatest features was very well voice acting. What also frustrated me was the emphasis on foot missions which strayed away from the 'shoot em up' arcade style of the former Star Fox games(excluding adventures obviously). And then of course the whole siding with wolf thing in a mission or two...