Mario Included in NES Punch-Out!! Without Miyamoto's Permission

**Valigarmander** · 08-09-2009, 10:54 PM

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Nintendo has released the latest installment of their Iwata Asks series (where president Satoru Iwata speaks with other Nintendo developers about their high profile games), and this time, all the focus is on the Punch-Out!! series (via GameSetWatch). While topics ranged from the creation of the series up to the latest game recently released on Wii, the most interesting revelations came from designer Makoto Wada, as he finally revealed two of the greatest secrets never before known about Punch-Out!! on the NES.

For starters, Wada admitted for the first time that Mario was included as the referee without getting consent from Shigeru Miyamoto:

Wada: ...Mario became the referee after the NES version, and I drew that myself without permission.

Iwata: You could get away with a lot then. (laughs)

Miyamoto: We didn't have an approval system when using Mario images back then and it went right past my check. (laughs)

Wada: That's why it is a slightly strange looking Mario.

There you have it -- the true reason behind Mario's brief reffing career... and why he looked slightly deformed during it. But that wasn't the only juicy tidbit Wada revealed about the 22-year-old game.

Wada: This is a great opportunity, so I have something I'd like to say. In Punch-Out!!, the game gives you a lot of hints about effective timing of punches. There is a big boxer called Bald Bull in the NES version as well and a light flashes to the right in the audience when he charges. If you punch when it flashes you will land a body blow.

Tanabe: What? Really?

Wada: No one has known about that for about 22 years...

Everyone: (laughter)

Wada: I was wondering when I would have a chance to tell people that.

Iwata: You've been holding that information for 22 years since the release. (laughs)

Wada: Now that I had the chance. (laughs) There are a lot of hidden elements in the NES version.

So if after 22 years you still were never able to beat Bald Bull, now you know the ultimate secret technique. Now fish out your NES, blow into your old copy of Punch Out!! until your face turns blue, beat the bald bastard, and make the 8-year-old version of yourself proud, once and for all.

Interesting. I never would've guessed that.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-11-2009, 10:35 AM

Haha, yeah there have been a lot of unofficial Mario appearances. I think the Punch Out ref being the most notable. I always assumed he was just meant to resemble Mario, myself.

Dizzy · 08-11-2009, 02:24 PM

^I originally though it was just a normal guy wearing a Mario hat.

Then I realized it WAS Mario.

Now I don't know what to think.

**Valigarmander** · 08-11-2009, 04:28 PM

I always just assumed he was Mario.

"Oh, look, it's Mario, in a Nintendo game. Neat."

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-12-2009, 12:56 AM

^ Yeah, but back before the SNES came out, you might not've though that.

Metal Man · 08-12-2009, 01:55 PM

For me, I always thought it was like the Mario in the golf/other games.

Then this came along and blew my mind.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-13-2009, 08:41 AM

Better yet, maybe he's Mario's creepy, slightly-misshapen doppleganger.

Dr. Furball · 08-13-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MANLY RIPPLING MUSCLES

Better yet, maybe he's Mario's creepy, slightly-misshapen doppleganger.

***Cosmonautical*** · 08-13-2009, 12:46 PM

I said slightly-misshapen.

08-11-2009, 10:35 AM	#2
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Haha, yeah there have been a lot of unofficial Mario appearances. I think the Punch Out ref being the most notable. I always assumed he was just meant to resemble Mario, myself.

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Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	^I originally though it was just a normal guy wearing a Mario hat. Then I realized it WAS Mario. Now I don't know what to think.

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Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I always just assumed he was Mario. "Oh, look, it's Mario, in a Nintendo game. Neat."

08-12-2009, 12:56 AM	#5
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	^ Yeah, but back before the SNES came out, you might not've though that.

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Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	For me, I always thought it was like the Mario in the golf/other games. Then this came along and blew my mind.

08-13-2009, 08:41 AM	#7
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Better yet, maybe he's Mario's creepy, slightly-misshapen doppleganger.

08-13-2009, 12:46 PM	#9
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,151 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	I said slightly-misshapen.