Genesis

Vapor · 12-26-2010, 12:57 PM

(Not sure if this is the right place to put this- it's not Nintendo, but it's quite Retro, so we're meeting halfway. AI, move this to where you see fit)

I had a Sega Genesis lying around for a few years, and wasn't using it because of a lost power supply. But I found out that the local comics shop has them, along with lots else paraphernalia, so I'm planning on using it.

"lots else paraphernalia" includes games. Any recommendations?*

*other than Sonic 2 and Stimpy's Invention, I have those

**Loot** · 12-26-2010, 01:49 PM

The Shining games I tend to like, although they're hard as hell to pick up. Otherwise, try for Shinobi III.

Dizzy · 12-26-2010, 11:21 PM

The Vectorman games are good for a challenge. The other Sonic games are decent, and if you can find them: Ristar, Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, and Gunstar Heroes.

Then there's Mega Man: The Wily Wars, but there's no way that shop's going to have it.

**Valigarmander** · 12-27-2010, 06:32 AM

...I just realized I've never really played any Genesis games besides the Sonic games, and Shining in the Darkness.

There was also this Dungeons and Dragons game, but it sucked.

***Cosmonautical*** · 12-27-2010, 07:08 AM

Obviously it's not Nintendo, but I'll allow it.

Random facts:
The "Genesis" was the system's secondary name, and only came about due to a legal conflict over the name "Mega Drive" in the US - Everywhere else it's the Mega Drive.

It was Sega's 3rd home console system, not their second or first as some imagine. Preceding it was their first - the SG-1000 which simultaneously targeted the popular home computer market. This system debuted with the home-games market crash looming in the immediate future, and contributed to the events leading to the japanese division's acquisition by CSK, a japanese conglomerate. Following Nintendo's successful resurrection of the Western market, the Master System launched to fanfare only in European and later South American markets.

It didn't fair as well in its homeland, Japan, because of stiff competition by the popular PC Engine (Turbo Grafx 16 in the US) in the 16-bit sector which predated the MD launch.

Its engineering is often erroneously considered more powerful than the SNES/Super Famicom by amateur hardware enthusiasts, as it clocks a higher CPU speed. Those comparisons are inaccurate as the SNES makes use of a chip custom-tailored for the processes native to the game industry, and has access to a faster DRAM in double the amount of the Genesis design. The subjective comparisons are made moreso untrue by principle that the SNES design allowed for additional processing power to be housed in each cartridge, while the Genesis came to rely on costly and unpopular add-ons to expand processing power.

Similarily, the SNES boasts a full 8-bit simultaneous color palette, chosen from a 15-bit, 32,768 color register. Compare the Genesis, which has access to a simultaneous palette 1/4th the size, chosen from a register of 512 colors. That's 1/64th the amount of possible colors available to games developers on the SNES.

The Genesis is often seen as a huge success, but ironically the system lacked the interest of the general public until the debut of Sonic the Hedgehog as SEGA's flagship enterprise.

SEGA's current name comes from the company's second title - SErvice GAmes. The company is not Japanese in origin, but rather was founded by Marty Bromely as Standard Games, in Honolulu, Hawaii. The company was founded to entertain Military Servicemen via coin-operated games such as pinball. It later moved to Tokyo during Japan's occupation by the US, again following military personnel.

Vapor · 12-27-2010, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremble Rod

words n stuff

*Suspects that was copypasted from wikipedia*
*googles*
*ok it wasn't, AI is still cool*

Anyway, I'm totally going for Moonwalker if I can find it.

Jere · 12-27-2010, 07:23 PM

Damnit AI im trying to forget some of the stuff i know about Videogames corporations to get some nerd points off, i need to get shagged.... big time, and remind me of stuff i succesfully managed to suppres is not cool or is it cool after all.... ARGH!

***Cosmonautical*** · 12-28-2010, 03:48 AM

^ You're saying that to a married man, bud. If you can't find a lady without her head up her ass, must be doing it wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splendorman!

*Suspects that was copypasted from wikipedia*
*googles*
*ok it wasn't, AI is still cool*

Anyway, I'm totally going for Moonwalker if I can find it.

Wikipedia's good for making sure I'm not getting my objective facts wrong, but I wouldn't really depend on it for info. I'm a big fan of retro/antique gaming and I read a wide variety of literature on the subject; so there's a lot of little things like the SNES/MD processor speed comparison that irritate me. Uneducated observations are often printed in dedicated literature.

IE; I just recently read another promotional bit about how Zelda II
is a surprisingly good game, despite being the "black sheep" of the Zelda family. That story went on to claim that the story is "the usual stuff" - that you're trying to defeat Ganon and rescue princess Zelda, again. Ganon's dead and you're trying to find a release spell for Zelda's sleeping ancestor, another Zelda, who is safely preserved on a pedestal in the North Palace. Neither observation is correct, and the guy that wrote it obviously doesn't like the game as much as he claims to, since he can't even recall the brief backstory.

Rainbow Dash · 12-28-2010, 10:00 AM

technically you are defeating ganon and saving zelda by preventing him from being revived and awakening zelda sooooooooo

***Cosmonautical*** · 12-28-2010, 09:46 PM

Well yeah, if you're the kind of person who prefers vague, misleading summaries. I mean, it could've made sense if it were printed in SPIN magazine.

More random facts:

Sonic 3's soundtrack was worked on by Michael Jackson, himself.

32x didn't just sink itself while tarnishing the name of the successful Genesis/Mega Drive platform; it also helped to pull the Saturn down with it by making use of the same CPU chips the Saturn design depended on, creating a shortage of processor hardware during the Saturn's crucial launch period. Oops.

Jere · 12-29-2010, 03:56 AM

If we are going to randomly tell stuff about sega ill jump on the bandwagon to say:

The fishing rod controller for one of the fishing games for the Dreamcast strangely works on virtual tennis.

Vapor · 12-29-2010, 01:30 PM

Yesterday, got it all working. Played Mortal Kombat II with some friends. This morning, got up and played Sonic 2. This is great.

Panfan · 12-29-2010, 01:47 PM

Having a Genesis is almost as fun to have around as an NES. But honestly I don't think there's anything like being sick and staying in your dorm room playing Zelda I all day.

***Marilink*** · 12-29-2010, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremble Rod

Sonic 3's soundtrack was worked on by Michael Jackson, himself.

I love watching the video about that, it's awesome.

***Cosmonautical*** · 12-29-2010, 11:07 PM

Oi, if there's a video, I haven't seen it. I mostly get what I know about SEGA from interviews and excerpts from gaming magazines. I was always on the Nintendo side of things, mostly because SEGA showed up late to the game and I'd experienced enough awful Master System games to be unimpressed with the company by the time of the Genesis's commercial arrival. Crav had a

BTW, Crav and I might be the only ones who get this, but here's a great SEGA joke:

Blast Processing

***Marilink*** · 12-29-2010, 11:35 PM

The SNES sure didn't have it. That thing was like a grandma's toy compared to the Genesis and its totally real, totally existing BLAST PROCESSING

Here's the video I was talking about.

Click to view video.

There are some annotations that have been added since I've seen it a few years ago. The narration isn't that great, but it plays all the suspicious songs and similarities back-to-back and it's really crazy.

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 01-04-2011, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremble Rod

Blast Processing

SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T

Sabrilocke · 01-31-2011, 12:58 AM

Golden Axe.

Fairlight Excalibur · 01-31-2011, 02:20 AM

Definitely get Shadowrun; completely different (and much better) than the SNES game of the same title.

Jere · 01-31-2011, 03:58 AM

Your preference may differ on the last statement but it's ok.

Then ecco the dolphin you should try and toejam and earl, allso bonanza brother (or something like that i can't remeber the right name to save my life)

12-26-2010, 12:57 PM	#1
Vapor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WHERE IT'S AT Gender: Posts: 5,211 Thanks: 314 Thanked 413 Times in 249 Posts	Genesis (Not sure if this is the right place to put this- it's not Nintendo, but it's quite Retro, so we're meeting halfway. AI, move this to where you see fit) I had a Sega Genesis lying around for a few years, and wasn't using it because of a lost power supply. But I found out that the local comics shop has them, along with lots else paraphernalia, so I'm planning on using it. "lots else paraphernalia" includes games. Any recommendations?* *other than Sonic 2 and Stimpy's Invention, I have those

12-27-2010, 07:08 AM	#5
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Obviously it's not Nintendo, but I'll allow it. Random facts: The "Genesis" was the system's secondary name, and only came about due to a legal conflict over the name "Mega Drive" in the US - Everywhere else it's the Mega Drive. It was Sega's 3rd home console system, not their second or first as some imagine. Preceding it was their first - the SG-1000 which simultaneously targeted the popular home computer market. This system debuted with the home-games market crash looming in the immediate future, and contributed to the events leading to the japanese division's acquisition by CSK, a japanese conglomerate. Following Nintendo's successful resurrection of the Western market, the Master System launched to fanfare only in European and later South American markets. It didn't fair as well in its homeland, Japan, because of stiff competition by the popular PC Engine (Turbo Grafx 16 in the US) in the 16-bit sector which predated the MD launch. Its engineering is often erroneously considered more powerful than the SNES/Super Famicom by amateur hardware enthusiasts, as it clocks a higher CPU speed. Those comparisons are inaccurate as the SNES makes use of a chip custom-tailored for the processes native to the game industry, and has access to a faster DRAM in double the amount of the Genesis design. The subjective comparisons are made moreso untrue by principle that the SNES design allowed for additional processing power to be housed in each cartridge, while the Genesis came to rely on costly and unpopular add-ons to expand processing power. Similarily, the SNES boasts a full 8-bit simultaneous color palette, chosen from a 15-bit, 32,768 color register. Compare the Genesis, which has access to a simultaneous palette 1/4th the size, chosen from a register of 512 colors. That's 1/64th the amount of possible colors available to games developers on the SNES. The Genesis is often seen as a huge success, but ironically the system lacked the interest of the general public until the debut of Sonic the Hedgehog as SEGA's flagship enterprise. SEGA's current name comes from the company's second title - SErvice GAmes. The company is not Japanese in origin, but rather was founded by Marty Bromely as Standard Games, in Honolulu, Hawaii. The company was founded to entertain Military Servicemen via coin-operated games such as pinball. It later moved to Tokyo during Japan's occupation by the US, again following military personnel. Last edited by Cosmonautical; 12-28-2010 at 03:37 AM.

12-26-2010, 01:49 PM	#2
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	The Shining games I tend to like, although they're hard as hell to pick up. Otherwise, try for Shinobi III.

12-26-2010, 11:21 PM	#3
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	The Vectorman games are good for a challenge. The other Sonic games are decent, and if you can find them: Ristar, Michael Jackson's Moonwalker, and Gunstar Heroes. Then there's Mega Man: The Wily Wars, but there's no way that shop's going to have it.

12-27-2010, 06:32 AM	#4
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	...I just realized I've never really played any Genesis games besides the Sonic games, and Shining in the Darkness. There was also this Dungeons and Dragons game, but it sucked.

12-27-2010, 07:23 PM	#7
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Damnit AI im trying to forget some of the stuff i know about Videogames corporations to get some nerd points off, i need to get shagged.... big time, and remind me of stuff i succesfully managed to suppres is not cool or is it cool after all.... ARGH!

12-28-2010, 10:00 AM	#9
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	technically you are defeating ganon and saving zelda by preventing him from being revived and awakening zelda sooooooooo

12-28-2010, 09:46 PM	#10
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Well yeah, if you're the kind of person who prefers vague, misleading summaries. I mean, it could've made sense if it were printed in SPIN magazine. More random facts: Sonic 3's soundtrack was worked on by Michael Jackson, himself. 32x didn't just sink itself while tarnishing the name of the successful Genesis/Mega Drive platform; it also helped to pull the Saturn down with it by making use of the same CPU chips the Saturn design depended on, creating a shortage of processor hardware during the Saturn's crucial launch period. Oops.

12-29-2010, 03:56 AM	#11
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	If we are going to randomly tell stuff about sega ill jump on the bandwagon to say: The fishing rod controller for one of the fishing games for the Dreamcast strangely works on virtual tennis.

12-29-2010, 01:30 PM	#12
Vapor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WHERE IT'S AT Gender: Posts: 5,211 Thanks: 314 Thanked 413 Times in 249 Posts	Yesterday, got it all working. Played Mortal Kombat II with some friends. This morning, got up and played Sonic 2. This is great.

12-29-2010, 01:47 PM	#13
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	Having a Genesis is almost as fun to have around as an NES. But honestly I don't think there's anything like being sick and staying in your dorm room playing Zelda I all day.

12-29-2010, 11:07 PM	#15
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,100 Thanks: 2,156 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Oi, if there's a video, I haven't seen it. I mostly get what I know about SEGA from interviews and excerpts from gaming magazines. I was always on the Nintendo side of things, mostly because SEGA showed up late to the game and I'd experienced enough awful Master System games to be unimpressed with the company by the time of the Genesis's commercial arrival. Crav had a BTW, Crav and I might be the only ones who get this, but here's a great SEGA joke: Blast Processing

01-31-2011, 12:58 AM	#18
Sabrilocke Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: behind the toolshed Gender: Posts: 4,254 Thanks: 238 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Golden Axe.

01-31-2011, 02:20 AM	#19
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Definitely get Shadowrun; completely different (and much better) than the SNES game of the same title.

01-31-2011, 03:58 AM	#20
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,648 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Your preference may differ on the last statement but it's ok. Then ecco the dolphin you should try and toejam and earl, allso bonanza brother (or something like that i can't remeber the right name to save my life)