Paper Mario - Page 2

***Marilink*** · 10-22-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CuccoLady

Agreed in that TTYD was better in pretty much every single way.

There's one thing that does bug me-- and I remember having a conversation with AI about this forever ago-- and that's the fact that TTYD is very lateral in its exploration. Movement is more up and down rather than in and out, whereas PM1 [most notable in levels like the jungle and Bowser's Castle] had towards and away-from exploration, which I prefer gameplaywise. That is a very minor thing, though.

[as in the levels in PM1 had more horizontal depth whereas the levels in TTYD seemed more up-and-down, platfomer-esque]

Yeah, that is pretty minor, especially when you consider some of the awesome out-of-the-box levels that TTYD has, like Glitzville and Excess Express.

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Originally Posted by the Octopus

My biggest issue with the actual gameplay in the Paper Mario games is how the characters feel slow and the story always seems less epic/adventurous with less threads than SMRPG had. It plods a lot.

Agreed, the plots are pretty straightforward and aren't very complex. At the same time, both games came out at a time when every single contemporary RPG's goal was to Kill God. Something more light-hearted was nice for me (especially since I was 9).

But like I said, the game does feel like a chore at times. And the movement of the characters is pretty slow, but that's worse in the first game because you don't get Lakilester until the second-to-last level. In TTYD, you at least you get Yoshi close to the beginning of the game.

**Valigarmander** · 10-22-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchie

Just reading this makes me want to get TTYD because I've never played it before...

Buy it. Buy it and play it.

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-22-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Marilink

And the movement of the characters is pretty slow, but that's worse in the first game because you don't get Lakilester until the second-to-last level. In TTYD, you at least you get Yoshi close to the beginning of the game.

That's part of what doesn't make sense for the series, though. Most SMB games have a huge emphasis on how fast Mario is on his feet. It's another N64-ism that Nintendo had a hard time building large environments worth exploring, so they had to slow it right down in a way that took all the oomph out. That and Yoshi has never really had a history of increasing Mario's speed beside the PM series.

**X-3** · 10-22-2011, 12:36 PM

There's a badge that lets your dash or whatever cover more length.

CuccoLady · 10-22-2011, 03:03 PM

Excess Express ALONE is worth playing TTYD, in my opinion.

Penguin mystery, awesome ruin-like exploration, then bossfight on top of a speeding train. Yes.

...

And then there is Glitzville. Yes. Very yes.

Random User · 10-22-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CuccoLady

Excess Express ALONE is worth playing TTYD, in my opinion.

YES. Excess Express was amazing, and I really never wanna finish the chapter when I play through the game. It's too good to end.

Antisocial · 10-22-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by X-3

There's a badge that lets your dash or whatever cover more length.

Speedy Spin.

I feel almost ashamed for remembering that.

Luigiman7 · 10-22-2011, 09:03 PM

i might be the only person in the world who didn't like the excess express the first time i played it

but yeah ttyd is so much better than the first game in every aspect

Dizzy · 10-22-2011, 09:28 PM

I liked Flower Fields, you all are ingrates.

Also, if we're talking about good music:

Click to view video.

CuccoLady · 10-22-2011, 10:26 PM

Gusty Gulch is still better

Eagle Eye · 10-22-2011, 11:52 PM

Tubba Blubba chase music >

With that said, it's hard for me to believe this was 11 years ago.
I agree with the general sentiments, when you break it down, it's not as great as it seemed then. Still a good game, and a great basis for a solid series, TTYD was absolutely the best of the 3 though.

Hated Flower Fields and Crystal Palace (sue me)

Dizzy · 10-23-2011, 04:40 PM

I disliked Gusty Gulch.

I'm an ingrate.

Tomlo53 · 01-23-2012, 02:21 AM

Yes your all question and answer is right. i like this game to much this game is really good for everyone..........

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-23-2012, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomlo53

Yes your all question and answer is right. i like this game to much this game is really good for everyone..........

VGF: our all question and answer is right

Antisocial · 01-23-2012, 09:40 PM

I don't condone necromancing threads, but I'm all for talking about Paper Mario some more.

Shy Guy's Toy Box will always be my favorite chapter out of the entire series. I don't care how short it was. If they don't bring back Shy Guys for the 3DS game after they've mysteriously faded into the background after the first installment, someone's gonna get a hurtin'.

Auron · 01-23-2012, 10:03 PM

^Personally I'm hoping for a Shy Guy partner this time.

***Marilink*** · 01-23-2012, 11:38 PM

I'm hoping for a Chain Chomp and Shy Guy partner. I'd also dig a Ninji. And a Lakitu that doesn't suck.

Random User · 01-23-2012, 11:43 PM

Perhaps they could incorporate a bandit partner that works similarly to Ms. Mowz.

lamarwisneski · 03-26-2012, 04:16 AM

Paper Mario is probably best described as an RPG platformer. Paper Mario is a game that has something for everyone. It's simple to learn and fun for younger gamers, yet complex enough to keep even battle-hardened joystick jockeys playing for weeks. Followers of the Mario craze will be pleased with the recognizable faces and worlds, while RPG fans can rejoice at the thought of one of the deepest and most customizable RPG's to come along for any system in a very long time.

***Cosmonautical*** · 03-26-2012, 08:59 AM

ILU Lamar. Marry me. <3

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01-23-2012, 09:40 PM	#35
Antisocial Janitor Join Date: May 2000 Gender: Posts: 11,471 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1,296 Times in 536 Posts	That someone is me, by the way. I don't condone necromancing threads, but I'm all for talking about Paper Mario some more. Shy Guy's Toy Box will always be my favorite chapter out of the entire series. I don't care how short it was. If they don't bring back Shy Guys for the 3DS game after they've mysteriously faded into the background after the first installment, someone's gonna get a hurtin'.

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10-22-2011, 03:03 PM	#25
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	Excess Express ALONE is worth playing TTYD, in my opinion. Penguin mystery, awesome ruin-like exploration, then bossfight on top of a speeding train. Yes. ... And then there is Glitzville. Yes. Very yes.

10-22-2011, 10:26 PM	#30
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	Gusty Gulch is still better

10-22-2011, 11:52 PM	#31
Eagle Eye Diddy bops Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 15,014 Thanks: 1,616 Thanked 1,084 Times in 597 Posts	Tubba Blubba chase music > With that said, it's hard for me to believe this was 11 years ago. I agree with the general sentiments, when you break it down, it's not as great as it seemed then. Still a good game, and a great basis for a solid series, TTYD was absolutely the best of the 3 though. Hated Flower Fields and Crystal Palace (sue me)

10-23-2011, 04:40 PM	#32
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,161 Times in 804 Posts Blog Entries: 116	I disliked Gusty Gulch. I'm an ingrate.

01-23-2012, 02:21 AM	#33
Tomlo53 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2012 Gender: Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes your all question and answer is right. i like this game to much this game is really good for everyone..........

01-23-2012, 10:03 PM	#36
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*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,535 Thanked 1,822 Times in 1,007 Posts	I'm hoping for a Chain Chomp and Shy Guy partner. I'd also dig a Ninji. And a Lakitu that doesn't suck.

01-23-2012, 11:43 PM	#38
Random User Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Equestrian Republic of Spanglidesh Gender: Posts: 3,562 Thanks: 321 Thanked 195 Times in 143 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Perhaps they could incorporate a bandit partner that works similarly to Ms. Mowz.

03-26-2012, 04:16 AM	#39
lamarwisneski Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Gender: Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Paper Mario is probably best described as an RPG platformer. Paper Mario is a game that has something for everyone. It's simple to learn and fun for younger gamers, yet complex enough to keep even battle-hardened joystick jockeys playing for weeks. Followers of the Mario craze will be pleased with the recognizable faces and worlds, while RPG fans can rejoice at the thought of one of the deepest and most customizable RPG's to come along for any system in a very long time.

03-26-2012, 08:59 AM	#40
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