And the FF4 DS remake hit a snag.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-20-2007, 09:07 AM

It's gonna have voice acting. -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 09-20-2007, 09:13 AM

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-20-2007, 09:24 AM

The good news is, so far, it's only in the trailer. -CSM

Auron · 09-20-2007, 09:30 AM

I normally play my DS with the volume off anyway.

Wyborn · 09-21-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

It's gonna have voice acting. -CSM

I still don't understand your borderline absurd vendetta against voice acting.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 12:19 AM

^Bad voice acting can ruin a game. -CSM

Wyborn · 09-21-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^Bad voice acting can ruin a game. -CSM

Not really.

But even assuming that, this isn't your actual reasoning; if it were, your first reaction to any announcement of voice acting wouldn't be a loud cough and a rolling of the eyes. You wouldn't call it one of the scourges of modern gaming. It wouldn't worry you that Square is putting it into one cutscene of FFIV.

Sometimes no comprendo.

Auron · 09-21-2007, 07:32 AM

^^But good voice acting can also help make a game. If you look at a game like, say, Oblivion, the voice acting in that game was phenominal, and it helped contribute to the entire game's awesomeness.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 08:26 AM

^Not really. Good voice acting can NEVER make a game because it's a GAME, not a movie. FFXII had great voice acting but that's not the reason why it was a great game. -CSM

Auron · 09-21-2007, 10:06 AM

^And Tales of Symphonia's voice acting was subpar, yet it didn't detract of it's value. You make it seem like voice acting in general is crap. If it can't make a game good, then how could it possibly make a game bad? It's not a one way street.

ZeldaGirl · 09-21-2007, 01:15 PM

I like voice acting, because I think it definitely adds another dimension to the characters. I think we should wait until we actually experience the game's voice acting before criticizing it.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 01:45 PM

It takes away a dimension for me. It takes away the dimension of imagination. When you can't actually hear what a character sounds like, you get to decide what they sound like on your own, and it adds an element of abstraction to the game. -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 09-21-2007, 06:13 PM

^ So, I take it Super Mario 64 was a departure for you?

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 06:58 PM

^Yep. Before then, Mario always had a New York accent. -CSM

Auron · 09-21-2007, 07:25 PM

^I take it the Mario Bros. movie did that?

**Valigarmander** · 09-21-2007, 08:02 PM

^^ ...Eh, you got a point there.

Sim Kid · 09-22-2007, 03:40 PM

Strange...I wouldn't have thought they'd have enough space with the typical FMVs and the extra 75% of the story they were adding to the game.

But there can be some good voices on the DS...You can actually make out what they're saying in Tales of the Tempest, even IF everyone sounds like munchkins. (But blame Japanese voice actresses for that...)

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-03-2007, 10:23 AM

Okay, and the game REALLY hit a snag. The voice acting will be for the whole game now. -CSM

Wyborn · 10-03-2007, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Okay, and the game REALLY hit a snag. The voice acting will be for the whole game now. -CSM

That is awesome news. I don't suppose you have a source?

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-03-2007, 10:57 AM

^It's some trailer from the Tokyo game show.

Honestly, can't fans have the right to imagine? I don't want voice imposition shoved down my throat. I want to decide what characters I like sound like. I don't want to hear "This is what character X sounds like, and you better like the voice, because we're paying someone MILLIONS to do this voice." I want my imagination and creativity back.

Oh, and here's your trailer.

Click to view video.

-CSM

09-20-2007, 09:07 AM	#1
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	And the FF4 DS remake hit a snag. It's gonna have voice acting. -CSM

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09-20-2007, 09:24 AM	#3
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	The good news is, so far, it's only in the trailer. -CSM

09-20-2007, 09:30 AM	#4
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	I normally play my DS with the volume off anyway.

09-21-2007, 12:19 AM	#6
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Bad voice acting can ruin a game. -CSM

09-21-2007, 07:32 AM	#8
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	^^But good voice acting can also help make a game. If you look at a game like, say, Oblivion, the voice acting in that game was phenominal, and it helped contribute to the entire game's awesomeness.

09-21-2007, 08:26 AM	#9
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Not really. Good voice acting can NEVER make a game because it's a GAME, not a movie. FFXII had great voice acting but that's not the reason why it was a great game. -CSM

09-21-2007, 10:06 AM	#10
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	^And Tales of Symphonia's voice acting was subpar, yet it didn't detract of it's value. You make it seem like voice acting in general is crap. If it can't make a game good, then how could it possibly make a game bad? It's not a one way street.

09-21-2007, 01:15 PM	#11
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	I like voice acting, because I think it definitely adds another dimension to the characters. I think we should wait until we actually experience the game's voice acting before criticizing it.

09-21-2007, 01:45 PM	#12
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	It takes away a dimension for me. It takes away the dimension of imagination. When you can't actually hear what a character sounds like, you get to decide what they sound like on your own, and it adds an element of abstraction to the game. -CSM

09-21-2007, 06:13 PM	#13
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^ So, I take it Super Mario 64 was a departure for you?

09-21-2007, 06:58 PM	#14
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Yep. Before then, Mario always had a New York accent. -CSM

09-21-2007, 07:25 PM	#15
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	^I take it the Mario Bros. movie did that?

09-21-2007, 08:02 PM	#16
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	^^ ...Eh, you got a point there.

09-22-2007, 03:40 PM	#17
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Strange...I wouldn't have thought they'd have enough space with the typical FMVs and the extra 75% of the story they were adding to the game. But there can be some good voices on the DS...You can actually make out what they're saying in Tales of the Tempest, even IF everyone sounds like munchkins. (But blame Japanese voice actresses for that...)

10-03-2007, 10:23 AM	#18
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Okay, and the game REALLY hit a snag. The voice acting will be for the whole game now. -CSM