FFT:War of the Lions.

***The Doctor*** · 10-05-2007, 11:38 AM

Is it me, or does this game suck?

Even the awesomeness of Balthier, can't save it.

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-05-2007, 11:50 AM

^You'd rather have a game with Cloud in it than one with Balthier? For shame. -CSM

***The Doctor*** · 10-05-2007, 01:04 PM

^ Cloud would make it suck even more. In fact I don't even think that Auron, Balthier, Lulu, Fran, Basch, Squall, Vicent, Yuffie, Zell, and Vivi could save this game.

Auron · 10-05-2007, 01:12 PM

Is it really that much worse than the original? Or do you just hate them both?

***The Doctor*** · 10-05-2007, 01:14 PM

I pretty much hate them both.

Auron · 10-05-2007, 01:20 PM

I liked the original, but I have no intention of getting a PSP, so I'll probably never play the remake.

Now why are all the RPGs going to the PSP? It's practically a lost cause.

ZeldaGirl · 10-05-2007, 01:21 PM

I didn't realize it had already come out... I loved the original, so I'll probably pick this one up anyway.

Sim Kid · 10-05-2007, 03:54 PM

Apparently they fixed the slowdown issues for the North American release. (The same website that was ****hing about it also said they did a craptacular port of Valkyrie Profile...I don't know what he's talking about, the only slowdowns where the voices would speak faster than the text or whenever I told my mage to cast "Heal")

I really hope they give Mustadio and Balthier some actual abilities. Remember how Mustadio had a whopping three moves? They can give him some moves from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (Stopshot's most needed) otherwise he'll just be an equipment breaker before you get Meliadoul and Orlandu. Same with some balance issues. Oracles are even more worthless and pointless than Kimarhi while a bunch of lancers will rip through everything pre-Riovanes Hell Portal. (Because no matter how high level my characters were, Velius would always move first somehow and get Spell off when 4 of my characters haven't even moved.)

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-05-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doctor

^ Cloud would make it suck even more. In fact I don't even think that Auron, Balthier, Lulu, Fran, Basch, Squall, Vicent, Yuffie, Zell, and Vivi could save this game.

How about the characters from FF's golden age? -CSM

***The Doctor*** · 10-05-2007, 04:32 PM

^ *thinks* not reallllly.

I've spent a little bit more time playing this since my last post on here. I'm giving it another day before I take it out.

SephirothKirby · 10-05-2007, 04:34 PM

How is it any different from the original?

I loved that version to death, and actually just replayed it.

FFTA failed. Hopefully FFTA2 won't, but I still get that nagging feeling.

But yes, how exactly is it any different?

Daos · 10-05-2007, 04:37 PM

If I had a PSP I might be interested in getting War of the Lions. I loved and own the original. Balthier is a secret character now I'm guessing? Sweet.

***The Doctor*** · 10-05-2007, 04:44 PM

^he is. And to be honest he's nothing special.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SephirothKirby

How is it any different from the original?

It's on a handheld. Has a few new items, and Balthier.

In my view FFTA is on the same level as this...I dunno. It could just be the style that I dislike.

ZeldaGirl · 10-06-2007, 10:25 PM

So, there's voice acting in the US version. Here's a list of the actors.

- Ramza: Phil LaMarr (Reddas - Final Fantasy XII)
- Delita: Robin Atkin Downes (Genesis - Dirge of Cerberus, Luxord - Kingdom Hearts II)
- Ovelia: Kari Wahlgren (Shelke - Dirge of Cerberus, Ashe - Final Fantasy XII)
- Agrias: Hedy Burress (Yuna - Final Fantasy X/X-2/Kingdom Hearts II)
- Balthier: Gideon Emery (Balthier - Final Fantasy XII)
- Luso: Justin Cowden (Hayner - Kingdom Hearts II)

And here's a video:

Click to view video.

Hedy Burress, though awful as Yuna, sounds actually very good as Agrias. Which is good, because Agrias is my favorite female character from this game.

Sim Kid · 10-07-2007, 01:22 PM

That's how those FMVs in Final Fantasy Tactics should have been.

Though Ramza sounds a lot older than I imagined him, but part of it's the artstyle...Ramza, Delita, Ovelia, and pretty much everyone else except Agrais, Orlandu, Wiegraf, and the Vormav-trinity look like children.

super mario365 · 10-07-2007, 03:27 PM

what are you guy,s doing

**Galefore** · 10-08-2007, 12:42 AM

^ur mom

Anyway, yeah. FFTA was alright, although I sort of dislike the FFT games as a whole. I may pick this up to see if I can enjoy it years after giving up on beating FFT.

ZeldaGirl · 10-08-2007, 12:45 AM

Weird. I loved Tactics so much.

**Galefore** · 10-08-2007, 12:52 AM

I'd probably like it if I gave it a better chance. I gave up on it quickly so many years ago.

Sim Kid · 10-08-2007, 10:12 PM

Unless they severely break the game or make the slowdowns as bad as they are in the Japanese version, I'll still like this game. I'm a big fan of Tactics Ogre (Which was made by many of the same people, should you actually find and play it you'll see the simularities)

10-05-2007, 11:38 AM	#1
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	FFT:War of the Lions. Is it me, or does this game suck? Even the awesomeness of Balthier, can't save it.

10-05-2007, 03:54 PM	#8
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Apparently they fixed the slowdown issues for the North American release. (The same website that was **hing about it also said they did a craptacular port of Valkyrie Profile...I don't know what he's talking about, the only slowdowns where the voices would speak faster than the text or whenever I told my mage to cast "Heal") I really hope they give Mustadio and Balthier some actual abilities. Remember how Mustadio had a whopping three moves? They can give him some moves from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (Stopshot's most needed) otherwise he'll just be an equipment breaker before you get Meliadoul and Orlandu. Same with some balance issues. Oracles are even more worthless and pointless than Kimarhi while a bunch of lancers will rip through everything pre-Riovanes Hell Portal. (Because no matter how high level my characters were, Velius would always** move first somehow and get Spell off when 4 of my characters haven't even moved.) Last edited by Sim Kid; 10-05-2007 at 04:00 PM.

10-05-2007, 11:50 AM	#2
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^You'd rather have a game with Cloud in it than one with Balthier? For shame. -CSM

10-05-2007, 01:04 PM	#3
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ Cloud would make it suck even more. In fact I don't even think that Auron, Balthier, Lulu, Fran, Basch, Squall, Vicent, Yuffie, Zell, and Vivi could save this game.

10-05-2007, 01:12 PM	#4
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	Is it really that much worse than the original? Or do you just hate them both?

10-05-2007, 01:14 PM	#5
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I pretty much hate them both.

10-05-2007, 01:20 PM	#6
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	I liked the original, but I have no intention of getting a PSP, so I'll probably never play the remake. Now why are all the RPGs going to the PSP? It's practically a lost cause.

10-05-2007, 01:21 PM	#7
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	I didn't realize it had already come out... I loved the original, so I'll probably pick this one up anyway.

10-05-2007, 04:32 PM	#10
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ thinks not reallllly. I've spent a little bit more time playing this since my last post on here. I'm giving it another day before I take it out.

10-05-2007, 04:34 PM	#11
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it. Gender: Posts: 7,213 Thanks: 373 Thanked 760 Times in 447 Posts	How is it any different from the original? I loved that version to death, and actually just replayed it. FFTA failed. Hopefully FFTA2 won't, but I still get that nagging feeling. But yes, how exactly is it any different?

10-05-2007, 04:37 PM	#12
Daos Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth Gender: Posts: 6,228 Thanks: 146 Thanked 245 Times in 179 Posts	If I had a PSP I might be interested in getting War of the Lions. I loved and own the original. Balthier is a secret character now I'm guessing? Sweet.

10-07-2007, 01:22 PM	#15
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	That's how those FMVs in Final Fantasy Tactics should have been. Though Ramza sounds a lot older than I imagined him, but part of it's the artstyle...Ramza, Delita, Ovelia, and pretty much everyone else except Agrais, Orlandu, Wiegraf, and the Vormav-trinity look like children.

10-07-2007, 03:27 PM	#16
super mario365 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	what are you guy,s doing

10-08-2007, 12:42 AM	#17
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	^ur mom Anyway, yeah. FFTA was alright, although I sort of dislike the FFT games as a whole. I may pick this up to see if I can enjoy it years after giving up on beating FFT.

10-08-2007, 12:45 AM	#18
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Weird. I loved Tactics so much.

10-08-2007, 12:52 AM	#19
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I'd probably like it if I gave it a better chance. I gave up on it quickly so many years ago.

10-08-2007, 10:12 PM	#20
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Unless they severely break the game or make the slowdowns as bad as they are in the Japanese version, I'll still like this game. I'm a big fan of Tactics Ogre (Which was made by many of the same people, should you actually find and play it you'll see the simularities)