Character of the Week: Ramza

Auron · 12-02-2007, 01:11 PM

Name: Ramza Beoulve
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Occupation: Squire
From: Final Fantasy Tactics
Info: Born to the noble family of Beoulve who have served the Larg's for generations. His two brothers command Ivalice's most powerful military corps, leaving Ramza with feelings of inferiority. After graduating from the Gariland officer academy, he joined Princess Ovelia's protection team and, while there, witnessed the Princess' abduction.

HA! No Wikipedia today.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-02-2007, 01:20 PM

Ramza Beoulve - The Final Fantasy Wiki has more Final Fantasy information than Cid could research

We featured this article on the main page. -CSM

ZeldaGirl · 12-02-2007, 02:06 PM

Ramza is the only male protagonist in the FF series I actually liked the entire game (Balthier notwithstanding...though I consider him XII's official male lead, I know others do not). Others, like Zidane, were tolerable near the entire game, whereas the rest just got on my nerves.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-02-2007, 02:23 PM

^I do. -CSM

Auron · 12-02-2007, 06:06 PM

^I can't win with you. I just can't.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-02-2007, 06:10 PM

^I didn't criticize you. Did I mention your name? No. You didn't know, so I'm helping you out a bit. People help me out all the time. -CSM

Wyborn · 12-02-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeldaGirl

Ramza is the only male protagonist in the FF series I actually liked the entire game (Balthier notwithstanding...though I consider him XII's official male lead, I know others do not). Others, like Zidane, were tolerable near the entire game, whereas the rest just got on my nerves.

Uh....Cecil? Locke? Edgar? Sabin? Cyan? Gau? Kain? Hell, even Zell?

Don't make me go on here!

Auron · 12-02-2007, 06:45 PM

^She's referring to the lead protagonists (ex: Cloud, Squall, Tidus, etc.)

Wyborn · 12-02-2007, 06:49 PM

No she's not - she mentions Balthier (or FFXII in general) as a point of contention, and Balthier (or Basch, or even Vaan) absolutely cannot be considered the central figures of the story that they play into.

ZeldaGirl · 12-02-2007, 06:50 PM

^Yes I am. I can make the argument that Balthier is FFXII's true male protagonist, but as I mentioned, most people don't see it that way.

But, yes, I was referring to the others such as Cloud, Squall, and Tidus.

Wyborn · 12-02-2007, 07:00 PM

Right, but FFXII doesn't have any male leads as the central character in the story. The strongest argument could be made for Ashe.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-02-2007, 07:08 PM

Yeah, but the story is being told through Balthier. -CSM

ZeldaGirl · 12-02-2007, 07:08 PM

^^I'm not arguing about that. I agree with that statement. And saying that, out of the three male protagonists, I like to think Balthier as the actual "leading man" (haha, I so punny).

But it's irrelevant, and doesn't change the fact that out of the true male protagonists, Ramza is the one I actually like the most.

^Well, honestly, I wouldn't say that. I say that the story is actually presented from an outside party, and no character really "tells" the story.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-02-2007, 07:30 PM

^If you want to be technical, Ondore does. -CSM

ZeldaGirl · 12-02-2007, 07:34 PM

^I'll give you that.

Anyway. Ramza. AWESOME.

Perrin Aybara · 12-02-2007, 08:23 PM

As always, Wy is wrong.

Lighten up, Francis. Must everything be turned into an arguement about FF12?

Anyway, I since I didn't like FFT all that much, I never really liked Ramza either. He seemed rather boring. In fact, I don't even remember anymore what impact (if any) he had on the story of the game.

Plus, in my game, I named him "JAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

It was funny to hear people yell JAY!!!!!!!!!!!! all the time.

-jay

Wyborn · 12-02-2007, 09:34 PM

So anyone wanna compare Ramza to another character from similar games? Magnus Gallant, maybe, or Destin Faroda, or Lans Tartare?

***Ace Mercury*** · 12-02-2007, 10:32 PM

Maybe I didn't pay attention to the story enough, but I didn't get a good feel for the characters. It's just usurp this, traitor that, for twenty hours, and then some weird sidequest with Cloud.

But I like how, completely coincidentally, he had the same birthday as me.

Sim Kid · 12-02-2007, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyborn

So anyone wanna compare Ramza to another character from similar games? Magnus Gallant, maybe, or Destin Faroda, or Lans Tartare?

Yes, Lans Tartare is a lot like Ramza - Was the story perchance done by the same people as Tactics Ogre as well? I know many other parts of Final Fantasy Tactics were.

Wyborn · 12-02-2007, 11:00 PM

Final Fantasy Tactics in general was created by the team that created Tactics Ogre and Ogre Battle. Now it's even more true since S-E bought Quest.

So Ramza is an unmitigated, unstoppable bad-ass comparable to Richard the Dragonheart, then?

12-02-2007, 01:11 PM	#1
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	Character of the Week: Ramza Name: Ramza Beoulve Age: 16 Gender: Male Occupation: Squire From: Final Fantasy Tactics Info: Born to the noble family of Beoulve who have served the Larg's for generations. His two brothers command Ivalice's most powerful military corps, leaving Ramza with feelings of inferiority. After graduating from the Gariland officer academy, he joined Princess Ovelia's protection team and, while there, witnessed the Princess' abduction. HA! No Wikipedia today.

12-02-2007, 01:20 PM	#2
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Ramza Beoulve - The Final Fantasy Wiki has more Final Fantasy information than Cid could research We featured this article on the main page. -CSM

12-02-2007, 02:06 PM	#3
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Ramza is the only male protagonist in the FF series I actually liked the entire game (Balthier notwithstanding...though I consider him XII's official male lead, I know others do not). Others, like Zidane, were tolerable near the entire game, whereas the rest just got on my nerves.

12-02-2007, 02:23 PM	#4
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^I do. -CSM

12-02-2007, 06:06 PM	#5
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	^I can't win with you. I just can't.

12-02-2007, 06:10 PM	#6
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^I didn't criticize you. Did I mention your name? No. You didn't know, so I'm helping you out a bit. People help me out all the time. -CSM

12-02-2007, 06:45 PM	#8
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Inside Gender: Posts: 6,743 Thanks: 5 Thanked 325 Times in 198 Posts	^She's referring to the lead protagonists (ex: Cloud, Squall, Tidus, etc.)

12-02-2007, 06:49 PM	#9
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	No she's not - she mentions Balthier (or FFXII in general) as a point of contention, and Balthier (or Basch, or even Vaan) absolutely cannot be considered the central figures of the story that they play into.

12-02-2007, 06:50 PM	#10
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	^Yes I am. I can make the argument that Balthier is FFXII's true male protagonist, but as I mentioned, most people don't see it that way. But, yes, I was referring to the others such as Cloud, Squall, and Tidus.

12-02-2007, 07:00 PM	#11
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	Right, but FFXII doesn't have any male leads as the central character in the story. The strongest argument could be made for Ashe.

12-02-2007, 07:08 PM	#12
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Yeah, but the story is being told through Balthier. -CSM

12-02-2007, 07:30 PM	#14
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^If you want to be technical, Ondore does. -CSM

12-02-2007, 07:34 PM	#15
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	^I'll give you that. Anyway. Ramza. AWESOME.

12-02-2007, 08:23 PM	#16
Perrin Aybara Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 12,760 Thanks: 194 Thanked 504 Times in 235 Posts	As always, Wy is wrong. Lighten up, Francis. Must everything be turned into an arguement about FF12? Anyway, I since I didn't like FFT all that much, I never really liked Ramza either. He seemed rather boring. In fact, I don't even remember anymore what impact (if any) he had on the story of the game. Plus, in my game, I named him "JAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!". It was funny to hear people yell JAY!!!!!!!!!!!! all the time. -jay

12-02-2007, 09:34 PM	#17
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	So anyone wanna compare Ramza to another character from similar games? Magnus Gallant, maybe, or Destin Faroda, or Lans Tartare?

12-02-2007, 10:32 PM	#18
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Maybe I didn't pay attention to the story enough, but I didn't get a good feel for the characters. It's just usurp this, traitor that, for twenty hours, and then some weird sidequest with Cloud. But I like how, completely coincidentally, he had the same birthday as me.

12-02-2007, 11:00 PM	#20
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	Final Fantasy Tactics in general was created by the team that created Tactics Ogre and Ogre Battle. Now it's even more true since S-E bought Quest. So Ramza is an unmitigated, unstoppable bad-ass comparable to Richard the Dragonheart, then?