FFX is embarrassing - Page 4

***The Doctor*** · 12-18-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazysnowman

What's so great about a jerky no fun to be around lead character and a cast with absolutely no development at all? -CSM

Some leaders are all fun and games in real life. It's nice not to have a hyper-active, sugar crazed, happy go lucky guy as a lead. (Not saying that that's bad, but I'm pretty sick of those lead people (yeah, fun ain't I))

Gunblade!!!

With cast development. To me, to make a cast develop, the game needs to be set out over a longer period of time. FFVIII didn't give me any impression that time whizzed by. People don't change quickly over night.

Gunblade!!!!!!

However the fact that you can junction magics and GF (Guardian Forces (Much better name IMO)) to everyone. Is probably another reason why I liked this game.

Gunblade!!!!!!!!>Big *** Sword>A Monkey-boyyyyyy with a knife

Daos · 12-18-2007, 03:20 PM

I could not stand VIII simply because it seemed the writers kept forgetting what the story was or if their characters were in love or what not. Weed does that you know.

**Galefore** · 12-18-2007, 03:52 PM

^^Wrong. Zidane had a dual-bladed sword later in the game. Plus, he was a better hero than Tidus, Vaan, and Cloud, and a lot less emo to boot. He actually developed and grew as a character instead of whined forever about his problems and his angst. Besides, even IF he only had a knife, that's definitely something refreshing after all of those stupid swords, and I am frankly offended that you had the dagger at the end of the list instead of behind the Gunblade.

Try again.

Robotazy · 12-18-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolly Ol' St. Galefore

^^Wrong. Zidane had a dual-bladed sword later in the game. Plus, he was a better hero than Tidus, Vaan, and Cloud, and a lot less emo to boot. He actually developed and grew as a character instead of whined forever about his problems and his angst. Besides, even IF he only had a knife, that's definitely something refreshing after all of those stupid swords, and I am frankly offended that you had the dagger at the end of the list instead of behind the Gunblade.

Try again.

Ok,

Auron>all

Ok, argument over lock plz.

Perrin Aybara · 12-18-2007, 05:36 PM

To summarize the male leads in the last few FF games:

Cloud: Boring
Squall: Emo
Zidane: Monkey
Tidus: Meg Ryan
Vaan: Manssiere

I tend to give the edge to Squall simply because of the Gunblade.-jay

***Booyakasha*** · 12-18-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

Tidus: Meg Ryan

Good gravy. That's creepy as hell. Accurate, but still creepy.

Sim Kid · 12-18-2007, 06:51 PM

I thought one of VIII's big selling point was its graphics...I think maybe they switched to Nomura was because he puts quite a bit of detail in his artwork and they decided to show off how good their graphics were by showing off how they can capture all of the primary colours, zippers, and belts Nomura likes to put in his character designs.

...as well as his fetishes for said clothing-parts.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-18-2007, 09:37 PM

Okay, I now have to respond to all your posts. Damn exams!!!!

Nom: I agree with you. That's why I give the edge to Zidane, who is just a regular guy with no personality flaws that make him not fun to be around. He's not a jerk and he's not a hyperactive loser.

And the characters all have the same lame backstory. And Squall and Rinoa were the only characters that got any FMV time. Zell, Selphie, Quistis, Irvine, Laguna, Ward, and Kiros weren't given any love by Square.

The gunblade is cool, but it's not as cool as NORMAL WEAPONS. You know, the kind from FFs I-VI, IX, and XII.

Gal: I completely agree with you.

Jay: Sorry, Zidane gets the edge. Squall isn't a Gunblade. Seifer has a Gunblade, too. And Seifer's cool. The coolness of a character isn't based on what their weapon is. -CSM

***The Doctor*** · 12-19-2007, 11:41 AM

^ but Zidane isn't a regular guy, he's a monkey-boyyyyyyy! Plus Seifer is insane.

Yes it doesn't make them cool, but it certainly helps.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-19-2007, 02:03 PM

^Nom, I hate to say this, but that's a very racist thing to say. -CSM

**Galefore** · 12-19-2007, 02:45 PM

Absolutely.

Also, he's not a monkey. He's a Genome.

Try again!

Rattan · 12-20-2007, 12:54 PM

The thing with XII...why not have a unified kingdom in peace? I get the whole humans stand on their own thing. Yet from the sound of it the first dude with the crystals made life better for all. Getting rid of that kinda of power just let dicks from the empire get into an advantageous position.

On the main characters, i'm kinda bored with the 2 leads that keep showing up. It seems like the same girl each time with only a slightly different look. Too damn cliche. XIII chick is the same thing. "We wanted a female Cloud" they say yet she still looks like the last 4. The male leads I have to give the edge to Zidane since I actually liked him and his personality more than Gloomy, Grumpy, Whiny and Girly.

FFX was alright. Though overall it was just kinda bland. I'm not a big fan of voice acting in games and FFX was almost intolerable at time just because I could hear them.

If anything they should just limit voice to cutscenes. I think the final chat with Kefka might be a good example of such a situation where voice might be appropriate.

***The Doctor*** · 12-20-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazysnowman

^Nom, I hate to say this, but that's a very racist thing to say. -CSM

That's not racist. It's Speciest.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-20-2007, 03:27 PM

Hey, Tan! How've you been? I pretty much agree with that post. If you're talking about Raithwall, his power just sorta wained after his death and Dalmasca was his last lineage.

Nom: It's the same thing really. -CSM

12-20-2007, 12:54 PM	#72
Rattan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The current whereabouts of my being is here. Posts: 11,034 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	The thing with XII...why not have a unified kingdom in peace? I get the whole humans stand on their own thing. Yet from the sound of it the first dude with the crystals made life better for all. Getting rid of that kinda of power just let dicks from the empire get into an advantageous position. On the main characters, i'm kinda bored with the 2 leads that keep showing up. It seems like the same girl each time with only a slightly different look. Too damn cliche. XIII chick is the same thing. "We wanted a female Cloud" they say yet she still looks like the last 4. The male leads I have to give the edge to Zidane since I actually liked him and his personality more than Gloomy, Grumpy, Whiny and Girly. FFX was alright. Though overall it was just kinda bland. I'm not a big fan of voice acting in games and FFX was almost intolerable at time just because I could hear them. If anything they should just limit voice to cutscenes. I think the final chat with Kefka might be a good example of such a situation where voice might be appropriate. Last edited by Rattan; 12-20-2007 at 12:59 PM.

12-18-2007, 03:20 PM	#62
Daos Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth Gender: Posts: 6,228 Thanks: 146 Thanked 245 Times in 179 Posts	I could not stand VIII simply because it seemed the writers kept forgetting what the story was or if their characters were in love or what not. Weed does that you know.

12-18-2007, 03:52 PM	#63
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	^^Wrong. Zidane had a dual-bladed sword later in the game. Plus, he was a better hero than Tidus, Vaan, and Cloud, and a lot less emo to boot. He actually developed and grew as a character instead of whined forever about his problems and his angst. Besides, even IF he only had a knife, that's definitely something refreshing after all of those stupid swords, and I am frankly offended that you had the dagger at the end of the list instead of behind the Gunblade. Try again.

12-18-2007, 05:36 PM	#65
Perrin Aybara Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 12,760 Thanks: 194 Thanked 504 Times in 235 Posts	To summarize the male leads in the last few FF games: Cloud: Boring Squall: Emo Zidane: Monkey Tidus: Meg Ryan Vaan: Manssiere I tend to give the edge to Squall simply because of the Gunblade.-jay

12-18-2007, 06:51 PM	#67
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	I thought one of VIII's big selling point was its graphics...I think maybe they switched to Nomura was because he puts quite a bit of detail in his artwork and they decided to show off how good their graphics were by showing off how they can capture all of the primary colours, zippers, and belts Nomura likes to put in his character designs. ...as well as his fetishes for said clothing-parts.

12-18-2007, 09:37 PM	#68
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Okay, I now have to respond to all your posts. Damn exams!!!! Nom: I agree with you. That's why I give the edge to Zidane, who is just a regular guy with no personality flaws that make him not fun to be around. He's not a jerk and he's not a hyperactive loser. And the characters all have the same lame backstory. And Squall and Rinoa were the only characters that got any FMV time. Zell, Selphie, Quistis, Irvine, Laguna, Ward, and Kiros weren't given any love by Square. The gunblade is cool, but it's not as cool as NORMAL WEAPONS. You know, the kind from FFs I-VI, IX, and XII. Gal: I completely agree with you. Jay: Sorry, Zidane gets the edge. Squall isn't a Gunblade. Seifer has a Gunblade, too. And Seifer's cool. The coolness of a character isn't based on what their weapon is. -CSM

12-19-2007, 11:41 AM	#69
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ but Zidane isn't a regular guy, he's a monkey-boyyyyyyy! Plus Seifer is insane. Yes it doesn't make them cool, but it certainly helps.

12-19-2007, 02:03 PM	#70
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Nom, I hate to say this, but that's a very racist thing to say. -CSM

12-19-2007, 02:45 PM	#71
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Absolutely. Also, he's not a monkey. He's a Genome. Try again!

12-20-2007, 03:27 PM	#74
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Hey, Tan! How've you been? I pretty much agree with that post. If you're talking about Raithwall, his power just sorta wained after his death and Dalmasca was his last lineage. Nom: It's the same thing really. -CSM