Tales of Symphonia 2

Speed · 11-13-2008, 08:54 PM

STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THIS GAME

The gameplay takes all the greatness of ToS1 and takes them away leaveing possibly the worst gameplay since the CD-i Zeldas.

Then the story...well it's only half as epic as ToS1 and I just couldn't get into it, and the returning ToS1 characters are basterdized beyond belief.

I wanted Lloyd Irving, NOT SOME BITCHY EMO WHORE AND HIS (Extremely Hot) FANGIRL!!!

*Cuts*

Screw this game, go bye Tales of Vesperia now!!!!

Even if you have a Wii and not 360 screw this and bye ToV.

Robotazy · 11-14-2008, 08:45 AM

A little harsh, don't you think?

**Valigarmander** · 11-14-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Screw this game, go bye Tales of Vesperia now!!!!

Even if you have a Wii and not 360 screw this and bye ToV.

I could never bye Tales of Vesperia.

I am nobody · 11-14-2008, 12:01 PM

So far the big complaint seems to be bad translation and Emil being lame/annoying.

Which could actually make it more entertaining, depending on how bad the translation is.

**Loot** · 11-14-2008, 01:09 PM

Dear Speed,

Sod off.

Love, Loot.

Speed · 11-14-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STOP LOOKING AT ME

A little harsh, don't you think?

No, this game is bad, which I thought was impossible for a Tales game.

Rainbow Dash · 11-14-2008, 03:15 PM

**** you

Sim Kid · 11-14-2008, 09:31 PM

So what exactly makes the gameplay worse than the CD-i Zeldas? The gameplay actually seems to work, and they use the battle system in Tales of the Abyss but perfected in Innocence and Vesperia. (They also added more motions for shortcuts but then again though I never used them that much)

Oh wait do you mean because of the point-and-click?

CuccoLady · 11-16-2008, 01:47 AM

Hey, exactly how long did you play this game before posting this?

Try twelve hours. You'll change your mind.

Also, monsters in party=win. I had a leech named strudel. xDD

Anyway, I think having someone who actually has fears as a main character is a nice change, as opposed to your stereotypical gung-ho hero dude.

Oh, and I already byed ToV. And beat it. This game is my entertainment now.

**X-3** · 11-16-2008, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

I wanted Lloyd Irving, NOT SOME BITCHY EMO WHORE AND HIS (Extremely Hot) FANGIRL!!!

But...he was a bitchy emo whore in ToS1 too.

CuccoLady · 11-18-2008, 01:00 AM

It's great; in this game you FINALLY get to see what's behind the supar seekrit door in the Toize Valley Mine. I *knew* they had to let us in there sometime. My curiosity was killing me. xD

**Galefore** · 11-21-2008, 05:04 PM

Oh, what? They released another one?

I'm so far out of the Video Game loop that I had no idea they were even releasing this. In fact, I just now even got around to playing mother****ing Twilight Princess (which, in fact, is awesome). If I had ever had the patience to beat the first ToS (got stuck in some water dungeon because of laziness, never played again, got discouraged every time I tried to open the box and probably sold it), I would consider branching out into the others. I just don't have the mad dedication required to actually get to the ending of one of these. For that, I envy CL. I've never seen someone this fanatical about anything ever.

heh · 11-21-2008, 05:32 PM

wait, samuel l jackson is speed? sonuva

Rainbow Dash · 11-21-2008, 06:07 PM

I've beaten symphonia twice

**Valigarmander** · 11-21-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS

wait, samuel l jackson is speed? sonuva

Or... is it the other way around!?

Rainbow Dash · 11-21-2008, 06:18 PM

It better not be. :colbert:

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 11-22-2008, 01:18 AM

I liked ToS so this can't be that bad. I'll play this sucka later. I do love sequels though. I even suffered through FFX-2. YEP. I'm a trooper. Hell, I actually want a FF X-3.

CuccoLady · 11-22-2008, 01:58 AM

Quote:

I've never seen someone this fanatical about anything ever.

Oh man, you have no idea. You should've seen me at school. I wouldn't shut up about it. :]

So, have any of you tried out the game yet? Because in my completely unbiased and unfanatical opinion, you should. :]

**S1x** · 11-22-2008, 02:50 AM

I haven't gone through every piece of this game yet, but I did a basic playthrough and (apparently) saw the best ending, and there's several things I thought about it. Minor spoilers apply to this list, but nothing too much.

Pros:
- Meeting and fighting with each of the old characters was always neat
- There's a lot of side quests for stuff, all optional. I didn't really try any but I'm going to go through each of them on another playthrough
- Having monsters on your side was pretty neat; because even if you don't have 4 characters there will still almost always be 4 allies fighting
- Like before, the way you start fights with monsters is perfect for the times when you want to grind a little bit and when you just want to avoid most of 'em
- Skits are way more entertaining to watch. The voice acting on every one of them probably helps out too
- You don't have to waste time on the world map since you can instantly travel to any place
- THANK YOU, you're actually able to freely roam around the battlefield if you need to
- The remixed music is neat, and the "building #2" music was awesomely intense, heh
- I haven't read the game in any other language or anything, but the dialogue and stuff didn't seem messed up really. There were some typos here and there, but they were far less frequent than in some other games I've played
- The last part of the ending made me smile

Cons:
- The main character did get on my nerves a little bit. This feeling became less the more I went through the game, though
- There's only two people you can fully customize
- It's sometimes not obvious which battles I'm supposed to lose. Quit making me waste all those items >_<
- It was nice to visit most of the places from the last game and see what was going on, but there didn't seem to be enough new areas
- There were a lot of normal-looking doors that you couldn't open, for whatever reasons
- A lot of the story would very likely go over the top of people that haven't played the first game
- The whole monster system was fine when I needed it but not that engaging. I don't think I ever switched out somebody about halfway through the game when I already had 3 quite powerful guys
- If, at any point, you are surrounded by a group of small monsters during a battle, you are screwed and there is nothing you can do
- Nobody, not even the final boss, could fully guard my 15-hit combo I learned to do easily. It made it too easy to flinch everybody and get in hit after hit after hit. Maybe that'll change if I crank up the difficulty
- The main game seemed pretty short
- Okay, the final area could have been one of the neatest mazes ever, but I think the developers just got lazy or something at that point

Despite plenty of the things that bug me about this game, it's definitely not bad at all. It's just a little underwhelming compared to the first game.

11-13-2008, 08:54 PM	#1
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Tales of Symphonia 2 STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THIS GAME The gameplay takes all the greatness of ToS1 and takes them away leaveing possibly the worst gameplay since the CD-i Zeldas. Then the story...well it's only half as epic as ToS1 and I just couldn't get into it, and the returning ToS1 characters are basterdized beyond belief. I wanted Lloyd Irving, NOT SOME BITCHY EMO WHORE AND HIS (Extremely Hot) FANGIRL!!! Cuts Screw this game, go bye Tales of Vesperia now!!!! Even if you have a Wii and not 360 screw this and bye ToV.

11-16-2008, 01:47 AM	#9
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	Hey, exactly how long did you play this game before posting this? Try twelve hours. You'll change your mind. Also, monsters in party=win. I had a leech named strudel. xDD Anyway, I think having someone who actually has fears as a main character is a nice change, as opposed to your stereotypical gung-ho hero dude. Oh, and I already byed ToV. And beat it. This game is my entertainment now. Last edited by CuccoLady; 11-16-2008 at 01:55 AM.

11-22-2008, 02:50 AM	#19
S1x VGF RPG Mod Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Loading...... Gender: Posts: 7,289 Thanks: 26 Thanked 493 Times in 201 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I haven't gone through every piece of this game yet, but I did a basic playthrough and (apparently) saw the best ending, and there's several things I thought about it. Minor spoilers apply to this list, but nothing too much. Pros: - Meeting and fighting with each of the old characters was always neat - There's a lot of side quests for stuff, all optional. I didn't really try any but I'm going to go through each of them on another playthrough - Having monsters on your side was pretty neat; because even if you don't have 4 characters there will still almost always be 4 allies fighting - Like before, the way you start fights with monsters is perfect for the times when you want to grind a little bit and when you just want to avoid most of 'em - Skits are way more entertaining to watch. The voice acting on every one of them probably helps out too - You don't have to waste time on the world map since you can instantly travel to any place - THANK YOU, you're actually able to freely roam around the battlefield if you need to - The remixed music is neat, and the "building #2" music was awesomely intense, heh - I haven't read the game in any other language or anything, but the dialogue and stuff didn't seem messed up really. There were some typos here and there, but they were far less frequent than in some other games I've played - The last part of the ending made me smile Cons: - The main character did get on my nerves a little bit. This feeling became less the more I went through the game, though - There's only two people you can fully customize - It's sometimes not obvious which battles I'm supposed to lose. Quit making me waste all those items >_< - It was nice to visit most of the places from the last game and see what was going on, but there didn't seem to be enough new areas - There were a lot of normal-looking doors that you couldn't open, for whatever reasons - A lot of the story would very likely go over the top of people that haven't played the first game - The whole monster system was fine when I needed it but not that engaging. I don't think I ever switched out somebody about halfway through the game when I already had 3 quite powerful guys - If, at any point, you are surrounded by a group of small monsters during a battle, you are screwed and there is nothing you can do - Nobody, not even the final boss, could fully guard my 15-hit combo I learned to do easily. It made it too easy to flinch everybody and get in hit after hit after hit. Maybe that'll change if I crank up the difficulty - The main game seemed pretty short - Okay, the final area could have been one of the neatest mazes ever, but I think the developers just got lazy or something at that point Despite plenty of the things that bug me about this game, it's definitely not bad at all. It's just a little underwhelming compared to the first game. Last edited by S1x; 11-22-2008 at 10:52 PM.

11-14-2008, 08:45 AM	#2
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	A little harsh, don't you think?

11-14-2008, 12:01 PM	#4
I am nobody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Over there. Gender: Posts: 5,515 Thanks: 309 Thanked 365 Times in 242 Posts Blog Entries: 7	So far the big complaint seems to be bad translation and Emil being lame/annoying. Which could actually make it more entertaining, depending on how bad the translation is.

11-14-2008, 01:09 PM	#5
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	Dear Speed, Sod off. Love, Loot.

11-14-2008, 03:15 PM	#7
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	**** you

11-14-2008, 09:31 PM	#8
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	So what exactly makes the gameplay worse than the CD-i Zeldas? The gameplay actually seems to work, and they use the battle system in Tales of the Abyss but perfected in Innocence and Vesperia. (They also added more motions for shortcuts but then again though I never used them that much) Oh wait do you mean because of the point-and-click?

11-18-2008, 01:00 AM	#11
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	It's great; in this game you FINALLY get to see what's behind the supar seekrit door in the Toize Valley Mine. I knew they had to let us in there sometime. My curiosity was killing me. xD

11-21-2008, 05:04 PM	#12
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Oh, what? They released another one? I'm so far out of the Video Game loop that I had no idea they were even releasing this. In fact, I just now even got around to playing mother***ing Twilight Princess (which, in fact, is awesome). If I had ever had the patience to beat the first ToS (got stuck in some water dungeon because of laziness, never played again, got discouraged every time I tried to open the box and probably sold it), I would consider branching out into the others. I just don't have the mad dedication required to actually get to the ending* of one of these. For that, I envy CL. I've never seen someone this fanatical about anything ever.

11-21-2008, 05:32 PM	#13
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	wait, samuel l jackson is speed? sonuva

11-21-2008, 06:07 PM	#14
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	I've beaten symphonia twice

11-21-2008, 06:18 PM	#16
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	It better not be. :colbert:

11-22-2008, 01:18 AM	#17
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I liked ToS so this can't be that bad. I'll play this sucka later. I do love sequels though. I even suffered through FFX-2. YEP. I'm a trooper. Hell, I actually want a FF X-3.