Mage worthy weapons?

***The Doctor*** · 01-20-2009, 01:59 PM

Thinking about something yesturday, mages have a lot less weapons for them. I tried to list a mage weapons and come up with these.

Staff/Staves.
Books.
Dolls (FFX)
Batons/Wands
Ball and Cup (ToS)

And that's all I could think of, surely there should be more than that.

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 01-20-2009, 02:03 PM

Magical swords + Daggers,
Runes,
Charms,
Totems,
Relics.

Sim Kid · 01-20-2009, 05:30 PM

Whips (Jessica from Dragon Quest VIII, Rita can use whips in Tales of vesperia)
Scrolls
Shortswords or one-handed swords (World of Warcraft, Golden Sun, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, and Dragon Quest VIII)
Unarmed*
Urns
Straws
Small maces & Clubs (including Bud's frying pan)
Rings
Broomsticks
Their pet or Familiar (Meredy uses Quickie to attack in Tales of Eternia, Fina uses her pet for her physical attacks in Skies of Arcadia)
Rackets
Fans
A Toy Egg

*Technically, anyone can fight unarmed.

Chaos Deviot · 01-20-2009, 05:32 PM

Gloves(rare, but it does happen)
Gems/Stones
Light Swords/Maces(Golden Sun)

**Valigarmander** · 01-20-2009, 06:44 PM

Sorcerors or other "bad" mages might use daggers or knives. A wizard or such "good" mage is more likely to use staves, rodes, canes, sticks or scepters.

A "knight mage" might use swords.

Didn't the Necromancer class from Diablo II have shrunken heads it could use as a weapon? It might have been a "shield", though. I think it was supposed to just magnify your spells or something, though.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-20-2009, 07:48 PM

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**Valigarmander** · 01-20-2009, 08:06 PM

I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CAST THE SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!

Sim Kid · 01-20-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valigarmander

A "knight mage" might use swords.

Didn't the Necromancer class from Diablo II have shrunken heads it could use as a weapon? It might have been a "shield", though. I think it was supposed to just magnify your spells or something, though.

A Knight-mage or a battlemage may use swords or some other melee weapon. Jade and Magus for example use polearms and a scythe respectively. Rarely you might see them using a bow and arrow, like Rosa.

oh yeah, speaking of Final Fantasy IV, I forgot to mention Rydia, she uses a whip when she rejoins.

A shield? Well a shield or an off-hand item can technically be anything, and I'm not gonna mention every thing they got in Guild Wars.

The Willful Wanderer · 01-21-2009, 03:22 AM

Well, in Romancing Saga, provided you're willing to spend the effort, nearly anyone can use nearly any weapon- though that doesn't *really* count so much, I guess.

In Shining Force II, one of the better mage weapons was the 'power stick', which was actually some kind of gold-plated tonfa. Some of them could also use a thing that looked like a winged potion bottle on a stick (?!), and one of the enemy mages fights with a ball-and-chain morningstar.

If you count the fact that Naruto was originally going to be a manga about a bunch of shaman (!!), then you can include basically every ninjatastic (or ninja-wieldable) weapon ever, seeing as it's been made into a positively ridiculous number of video games.

FFT had Rafa and Malak, who literally wielded bad and good luck, respectively.
It also had wossname- Rys or something? Started out as a dragon? She turned into a swort of swordmage or something, and wielded breath weapons and blades.

Grandia II's offense-mage, Millenia, wielded a crossbow, her high heels, and numerous pieces of a dead god of evil. And a fish-launcher at one point. Don't ask.

That's all that comes to mind at the moment- I'll probably be able to come up with more later.

***The Doctor*** · 01-22-2009, 12:55 PM

Hmmmm....Thanks. You've all given me food for thought, but here's some reasons why I don't like these weapons for mages.

Enchanted Weapon. It just has magical properties, therefore it still can be used by anyone.

Mace,Morningstar,Knives,light swords,Clubs. Again can be used by all...well I wouldn't give a Ninja a morning star, unless he was a battlefield ninja.

Rings, Necklaces, Amults, Armbands. Fall into the Enchantments area. Therefore can be used by anyone.

Whips. MMMMMmmmmMMMmmmeh. Never fond of these. Had these down as more of a thief/Ranger weapon.

Fans. Mostly a Ninjas weapon. Fail to see how a mage would use it.

Gloves. Had these more as a Monk/Ninja/Thief sort of weapon. But I guess it could.

Scrolls are split with me. Again their mostly used for people who have nill Magical Knowledge, and tend to disappear once the spell is cast.

Sim Kid · 01-22-2009, 07:51 PM

Well the fans was seen in Tactics Ogre. In both "Let us Cling Together" and "Knight of Lodis", fans were available as weapons but the only class who had a fan as their preferred weapon were the Sirens and in Knight of Lodis, ~~hooker~~Sorceress.

Still though, Fans actually CAN be quite the deadly weapon in the right hands.

01-20-2009, 01:59 PM	#1
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Mage worthy weapons? Thinking about something yesturday, mages have a lot less weapons for them. I tried to list a mage weapons and come up with these. Staff/Staves. Books. Dolls (FFX) Batons/Wands Ball and Cup (ToS) And that's all I could think of, surely there should be more than that.

01-21-2009, 03:22 AM	#9
The Willful Wanderer Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aisle 12, between the kumquats and the radicchio. Gender: Posts: 2,325 Thanks: 168 Thanked 137 Times in 90 Posts	VARIETY Well, in Romancing Saga, provided you're willing to spend the effort, nearly anyone can use nearly any weapon- though that doesn't really count so much, I guess. In Shining Force II, one of the better mage weapons was the 'power stick', which was actually some kind of gold-plated tonfa. Some of them could also use a thing that looked like a winged potion bottle on a stick (?!), and one of the enemy mages fights with a ball-and-chain morningstar. If you count the fact that Naruto was originally going to be a manga about a bunch of shaman (!!), then you can include basically every ninjatastic (or ninja-wieldable) weapon ever, seeing as it's been made into a positively ridiculous number of video games. FFT had Rafa and Malak, who literally wielded bad and good luck, respectively. It also had wossname- Rys or something? Started out as a dragon? She turned into a swort of swordmage or something, and wielded breath weapons and blades. Grandia II's offense-mage, Millenia, wielded a crossbow, her high heels, and numerous pieces of a dead god of evil. And a fish-launcher at one point. Don't ask. That's all that comes to mind at the moment- I'll probably be able to come up with more later.

01-20-2009, 02:03 PM	#2
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Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Whips (Jessica from Dragon Quest VIII, Rita can use whips in Tales of vesperia) Scrolls Shortswords or one-handed swords (World of Warcraft, Golden Sun, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, and Dragon Quest VIII) Unarmed* Urns Straws Small maces & Clubs (including Bud's frying pan) Rings Broomsticks Their pet or Familiar (Meredy uses Quickie to attack in Tales of Eternia, Fina uses her pet for her physical attacks in Skies of Arcadia) Rackets Fans A Toy Egg *Technically, anyone can fight unarmed.

01-20-2009, 05:32 PM	#4
Chaos Deviot The Betrayer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 1,812 Thanks: 171 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Gloves(rare, but it does happen) Gems/Stones Light Swords/Maces(Golden Sun)

01-20-2009, 06:44 PM	#5
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Sorcerors or other "bad" mages might use daggers or knives. A wizard or such "good" mage is more likely to use staves, rodes, canes, sticks or scepters. A "knight mage" might use swords. Didn't the Necromancer class from Diablo II have shrunken heads it could use as a weapon? It might have been a "shield", though. I think it was supposed to just magnify your spells or something, though.

01-20-2009, 07:48 PM	#6
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Things that cause stabbity deaths. -CSM

01-20-2009, 08:06 PM	#7
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,700 Times in 2,580 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CAST THE SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM	#10
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,880 Thanks: 915 Thanked 656 Times in 426 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Hmmmm....Thanks. You've all given me food for thought, but here's some reasons why I don't like these weapons for mages. Enchanted Weapon. It just has magical properties, therefore it still can be used by anyone. Mace,Morningstar,Knives,light swords,Clubs. Again can be used by all...well I wouldn't give a Ninja a morning star, unless he was a battlefield ninja. Rings, Necklaces, Amults, Armbands. Fall into the Enchantments area. Therefore can be used by anyone. Whips. MMMMMmmmmMMMmmmeh. Never fond of these. Had these down as more of a thief/Ranger weapon. Fans. Mostly a Ninjas weapon. Fail to see how a mage would use it. Gloves. Had these more as a Monk/Ninja/Thief sort of weapon. But I guess it could. Scrolls are split with me. Again their mostly used for people who have nill Magical Knowledge, and tend to disappear once the spell is cast.

01-22-2009, 07:51 PM	#11
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Well the fans was seen in Tactics Ogre. In both "Let us Cling Together" and "Knight of Lodis", fans were available as weapons but the only class who had a fan as their preferred weapon were the Sirens and in Knight of Lodis, ~~hooker~~Sorceress. Still though, Fans actually CAN be quite the deadly weapon in the right hands.