Say goodbye to any hopes of Earthbound on the Virtual Console - Page 3

Metal Man · 02-25-2009, 11:55 PM

75 years.

We'll all be dead by the time Earthbound comes to VC! Hooray!

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-26-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PSYCHOKID909

Oh by the way when is the public domain cutoff point?

- You stupid dog!

Sometime in the 20s. -CSM

PK FIRE! · 02-26-2009, 03:16 PM

Okay so that 75 year cut off, does that apply to a work only if the creator has passed on or not? Also isn't there a statute of limitation for bringing forth a copyright suit?

- You stupid dog!

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-26-2009, 06:19 PM

^Actually, Sonny Bono went all anal (along with "we take public domain stories and make movies about them because that's the easiest way to make $$$" Disney) and had copyrights extended to 90 years, I think. Why do I think if Big Content gets its way we won't be able to see ANY original creations because of fear that a measure of a song might be close enough to a measure of one of their copyrighted songs? -CSM

Kargath · 02-27-2009, 03:37 AM

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I find it interesting that you're railing against Disney reworking public domain stories, but are perfectly fine with the Mother series doing unauthorised covers of more recent songs, CSM.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-27-2009, 06:20 AM

^I don't hear a single cover in the EB soundtrack. In order to hear the sounds that sound close to songs, you have to break each track into its parts and in some cases speed them up or slow them down. -CSM

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 02-27-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^I don't hear a single cover in the EB soundtrack. In order to hear the sounds that sound close to songs, you have to break each track into its parts and in some cases speed them up or slow them down. -CSM

Which would be ridiculous.

PK FIRE! · 02-27-2009, 04:59 PM

Don't get me started on that BS! I don't care what the court said "Ice Ice Baby" is "Under Pressure!" A one note diffrence does NOT make it an orignal song! Okay I'll stop ranting about that now sorry.

- You stupid dog!

Jesus · 03-25-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

Yeah, what's their excuse for not releasing that gem?

I've gotta put this out there. It's not truely confirmed as to whether there was an actual official english version of Earthbound Zero out there. The way they make it sound so secretly auctioned off and no true confirmation may make it a bit sketchy. Also, translating a rom could make it pass off as a legit copy. If Nintendo did truely translate it, then I'd have to say the reason it wasn't released was because of the release of the SNES closing in that sales of the copy would be pretty hard to manage.

The thing is there are always two sides to a story. Nintendo may have very good reasons not to have released Mother 3 on the GBA and there is probably a good explanation as to why Earthbound Zero wasn't released.

IO do find it slightly amusing that all you RPG fans are obsessing over a game that is basically put there just to parody other RPGs. The storyline isn't what you'd call spectacular and it doesn't get much more generic than visitng 8 dungeons collecting some sounds for a stone only to lead you to a final area with the main boss.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-26-2009, 07:57 PM

^Because we get sick of people in ridiculous getup from time to time, and we get sick of jerkoffs for lead characters from time to time, and we need a good laugh. We need something different from time to time. We're sick of Jpop-influenced music from time to time. We like parody because parody is funny. Tell me, what's more funny to fight? A monster that is basically a root of a grass clump or a moving highway sign? -CSM

PK FIRE! · 03-26-2009, 09:52 PM

What better way to lampoon a consol RPG then to take the most overused elements and run with then? Also I've got to say that setting it in 1950's suberbia is a nice tuoch as well.

New Age Retro Hippy FTW!

You stupid dog!

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-27-2009, 04:44 PM

I honestly can't find what people like WvsW are talking about. The original Mother was one of the earliest console RPGs, so its ability to parody was limited. I read that the reason it chose the setting it did (80's or 90's, I forgot), is because all the other RPGs were "Knight fights Dragon" crap. It was really innovative and different just for its setting alone.

The series is fine in every aspect. The graphics are acceptable, the music is good, the gameplay is good, and the setting and storyline are one-of-a-kind. I think that makes a wonderful game, but maybe you're looking for something different, but it's just what I was looking for..

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-28-2009, 10:44 PM

And besides, fancy graphics don't make a game. Just ask these guys.

Click to view video.

-CSM

Metal Man · 04-01-2009, 12:35 PM

More importantly, if it were made by Coca-Cola®, it would have been rereleased now, for Coca-Cola® knows how to treat its customers.

**Loot** · 04-01-2009, 04:04 PM

Yeah, um, CSM, the whole Earthbound fans that are making a huge deal out of this? They're not allowed to whine compared to what us Tales fans go through.

We've had FIVE main games never released here, some with some very deep stories and incredible battle systems. We also never got the original Phantasia on SNES or the PS1 remake, as well as the PS2 remake of Destiny, one of the most intense battle systems ever in a Tales game. There are also the Narakiri games on the Gameboy Color and Advance. Want to complain about how unfair it is? There's no reason any of these games couldn't have been released here.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 04-01-2009, 04:12 PM

^ Two third of our games haven't been released, one's been cancelled and remade on a lesser system, and the only one game from the SNES era we do have isn't even going to get the proper treatment; it's not coming back through the VC. Don't wanna compare whines, but EB gamers got it way worse IMO.

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-01-2009, 06:08 PM

I'm sure we all have our gripes, but let's not compare them. -CSM

03-27-2009, 04:44 PM	#52
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I honestly can't find what people like WvsW are talking about. The original Mother was one of the earliest console RPGs, so its ability to parody was limited. I read that the reason it chose the setting it did (80's or 90's, I forgot), is because all the other RPGs were "Knight fights Dragon" crap. It was really innovative and different just for its setting alone. The series is fine in every aspect. The graphics are acceptable, the music is good, the gameplay is good, and the setting and storyline are one-of-a-kind. I think that makes a wonderful game, but maybe you're looking for something different, but it's just what I was looking for.. Last edited by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!; 04-01-2009 at 04:13 PM.

02-25-2009, 11:55 PM	#41
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	75 years. We'll all be dead by the time Earthbound comes to VC! Hooray!

02-26-2009, 03:16 PM	#43
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	Okay so that 75 year cut off, does that apply to a work only if the creator has passed on or not? Also isn't there a statute of limitation for bringing forth a copyright suit? - You stupid dog!

02-26-2009, 06:19 PM	#44
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Actually, Sonny Bono went all anal (along with "we take public domain stories and make movies about them because that's the easiest way to make $$$" Disney) and had copyrights extended to 90 years, I think. Why do I think if Big Content gets its way we won't be able to see ANY original creations because of fear that a measure of a song might be close enough to a measure of one of their copyrighted songs? -CSM

02-27-2009, 03:37 AM	#45
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	Digital Copyright Slider I find it interesting that you're railing against Disney reworking public domain stories, but are perfectly fine with the Mother series doing unauthorised covers of more recent songs, CSM.

02-27-2009, 06:20 AM	#46
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^I don't hear a single cover in the EB soundtrack. In order to hear the sounds that sound close to songs, you have to break each track into its parts and in some cases speed them up or slow them down. -CSM

02-27-2009, 04:59 PM	#48
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	Don't get me started on that BS! I don't care what the court said "Ice Ice Baby" is "Under Pressure!" A one note diffrence does NOT make it an orignal song! Okay I'll stop ranting about that now sorry. - You stupid dog!

03-26-2009, 07:57 PM	#50
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Because we get sick of people in ridiculous getup from time to time, and we get sick of jerkoffs for lead characters from time to time, and we need a good laugh. We need something different from time to time. We're sick of Jpop-influenced music from time to time. We like parody because parody is funny. Tell me, what's more funny to fight? A monster that is basically a root of a grass clump or a moving highway sign? -CSM

03-26-2009, 09:52 PM	#51
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	What better way to lampoon a consol RPG then to take the most overused elements and run with then? Also I've got to say that setting it in 1950's suberbia is a nice tuoch as well. New Age Retro Hippy FTW! You stupid dog!

04-01-2009, 12:35 PM	#54
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	More importantly, if it were made by Coca-Cola®, it would have been rereleased now, for Coca-Cola® knows how to treat its customers.

04-01-2009, 04:04 PM	#55
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	Yeah, um, CSM, the whole Earthbound fans that are making a huge deal out of this? They're not allowed to whine compared to what us Tales fans go through. We've had FIVE main games never released here, some with some very deep stories and incredible battle systems. We also never got the original Phantasia on SNES or the PS1 remake, as well as the PS2 remake of Destiny, one of the most intense battle systems ever in a Tales game. There are also the Narakiri games on the Gameboy Color and Advance. Want to complain about how unfair it is? There's no reason any of these games couldn't have been released here.

04-01-2009, 04:12 PM	#56
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ Two third of our games haven't been released, one's been cancelled and remade on a lesser system, and the only one game from the SNES era we do have isn't even going to get the proper treatment; it's not coming back through the VC. Don't wanna compare whines, but EB gamers got it way worse IMO.

04-01-2009, 06:08 PM	#57
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	I'm sure we all have our gripes, but let's not compare them. -CSM