Say goodbye to any hopes of Earthbound on the Virtual Console

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-20-2009, 09:32 PM

STARMEN.NET - EarthBound on Virtual Console

In short, it has nothing to do with fan support - Nintendo probably gets our picture now (aka they know EB will be immensely popular and profitable) - but it has to do with NoA's lawyers with their heads up their asses thinking with all the pop culture references in the game they could get sued, knowing how companies cross the line when it comes to protecting their IP and don't know what fair use is.

GOD DAMN THE LAW! -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 02-20-2009, 09:33 PM

Uhh.

Start a petition.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-20-2009, 09:35 PM

^That's been done. Many, many times. -CSM

**Valigarmander** · 02-20-2009, 09:39 PM

COMBINE THEM ALL INTO A SUPER-MEGA PETITION.

Chaos Deviot · 02-20-2009, 09:48 PM

It won't help. It's simple, if one team removes the stick up their ass, we'll get it on the VC. It doesn't get any more complicated than that.

**X-3** · 02-20-2009, 09:55 PM

Earthbound in the US is like some dramatic, tragic romance. Or something.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-20-2009, 10:33 PM

^^This is why I can't stand lawyers. -CSM

***Booyakasha*** · 02-20-2009, 10:38 PM

All right, first things first---I don't really care all that much about 'Earthbound', so this doesn't affect me much. I hate it for you guys, but that's about it.

That said, I think it's pretty contemptible and spineless of Nintendo to be so afraid of lawsuits that they won't rerelease the game. Hell, it's only been out fourteen years--I'd say that, if anyone in this litigious society were going to sue Nintendo for copyright violation (or whatever the hell), it would long since have happened already.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-20-2009, 10:48 PM

At least we still have the M3 Handbooks to look forward to. I preordered one. -CSM

Sim Kid · 02-21-2009, 02:01 AM

Surprisingly the Earthbound fanbase isn't so up in arms.

But then again, seeing how often they've been slapped in the face by Nintendo and HAL studios....

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-21-2009, 09:11 AM

^There's gonna be stuff coming up soon though. -CSM

Chaos Deviot · 02-21-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim Kid

Surprisingly the Earthbound fanbase isn't so up in arms.

But then again, seeing how often they've been slapped in the face by Nintendo and HAL studios....

It's because they know that it's not Nintendo's fault initially. Why flame them because of the lawyers being jackasses? At first, they were, but this piece of evidence atleast proves why Nintendo isn't doing it right away.

However, there's no reason for them not to have released SSB on the VC already.

heh · 02-21-2009, 11:38 AM

oh no

*boots up emulator*

Bomby · 02-21-2009, 02:04 PM

Copyright laws go way too far.

So please try to break them regularly.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-21-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deviot

It's because they know that it's not Nintendo's fault initially. Why flame them because of the lawyers being jackasses? At first, they were, but this piece of evidence atleast proves why Nintendo isn't doing it right away.

However, there's no reason for them not to have released SSB on the VC already.

Time to start harassing lawyers! This is something I've ALWAYS wanted to do.

Bomby: Copyright laws lost any meaningful purpose about the time Jack Valenti came onto the scene. That was also around the time people started suing everyone for stupid little things. -CSM

Kargath · 02-21-2009, 03:26 PM

Quick poll guys/girls:
Who do you think Nintendo employees are more creeped out by - Bob from Bob's Game or the typical Mother fan?

heh · 02-21-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargath

Quick poll guys/girls:
Who do you think Nintendo employees are more creeped out by - Bob from Bob's Game or the typical Mother fan?

more likely they ignore them both

PK FIRE! · 02-21-2009, 04:33 PM

I thought that parady wasn't in violation of copyright law. Or am I mistaken about that?

- You stupid dog!

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-21-2009, 04:49 PM

They haven't ignored us, apparently. Apparently both NoA and NCL want to release EB, but the legal team won't let them.

Psycho: it is. It VERY STRONGLY is. But unfortunately our culture has denigrated into what Tomato calls a "sue happy" culture, where people sue people for anything and everything, especially in the entertainment industry, where about 80% of the lawsuits are frivolous and a good chunk of the rest are against people who are completely innocent. And the lawyers make a TON of money off of them. I actually blame part of the economic collapse on these numerous lawsuits. They have a horrible impact on our economy and create a culture of fear.

This culture of fear is what's driving Nintendo's lawyers. So much of the parody is so close to some actual content, especially music-wise, that they're so afraid the RIAA, which is the KING of frivolous lawsuits (so much that they probably make a lot of money that way), will sue them. And these lawyers are paid big bucks to most likely prevent lawsuits from happening, not get sued and go to court and say "this is why this lawsuit is total crap."

It's horrible, but it's the truth. The good news, though, is at least we know the root of the problem, so we can go about solving it. It will be VERY difficult, but we have to recruit people en masse in order for it to be effective. And these are my words, not Tomato's or anyone else's. We have to change the culture. -CSM

Sim Kid · 02-21-2009, 05:29 PM

Wait...don't they think some of the songs sound like a Monty Python theme? Isn't that public domain?

02-20-2009, 09:32 PM	#1
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Say goodbye to any hopes of Earthbound on the Virtual Console STARMEN.NET - EarthBound on Virtual Console In short, it has nothing to do with fan support - Nintendo probably gets our picture now (aka they know EB will be immensely popular and profitable) - but it has to do with NoA's lawyers with their heads up their asses thinking with all the pop culture references in the game they could get sued, knowing how companies cross the line when it comes to protecting their IP and don't know what fair use is. GOD DAMN THE LAW! -CSM

02-20-2009, 10:38 PM	#8
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	All right, first things first---I don't really care all that much about 'Earthbound', so this doesn't affect me much. I hate it for you guys, but that's about it. That said, I think it's pretty contemptible and spineless of Nintendo to be so afraid of lawsuits that they won't rerelease the game. Hell, it's only been out fourteen years--I'd say that, if anyone in this litigious society were going to sue Nintendo for copyright violation (or whatever the hell), it would long since have happened already. Last edited by Booyakasha; 02-21-2009 at 02:28 AM. Reason: I'm a goddamn illiterate

02-20-2009, 09:33 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Uhh. Start a petition.

02-20-2009, 09:35 PM	#3
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^That's been done. Many, many times. -CSM

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Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	COMBINE THEM ALL INTO A SUPER-MEGA PETITION.

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Chaos Deviot The Betrayer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 171 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts Blog Entries: 1	It won't help. It's simple, if one team removes the stick up their ass, we'll get it on the VC. It doesn't get any more complicated than that.

02-20-2009, 09:55 PM	#6
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Earthbound in the US is like some dramatic, tragic romance. Or something.

02-20-2009, 10:33 PM	#7
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^^This is why I can't stand lawyers. -CSM

02-20-2009, 10:48 PM	#9
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	At least we still have the M3 Handbooks to look forward to. I preordered one. -CSM

02-21-2009, 02:01 AM	#10
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Surprisingly the Earthbound fanbase isn't so up in arms. But then again, seeing how often they've been slapped in the face by Nintendo and HAL studios....

02-21-2009, 09:11 AM	#11
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^There's gonna be stuff coming up soon though. -CSM

02-21-2009, 11:38 AM	#13
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	oh no boots up emulator

02-21-2009, 02:04 PM	#14
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Copyright laws go way too far. So please try to break them regularly.

02-21-2009, 03:26 PM	#16
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	Quick poll guys/girls: Who do you think Nintendo employees are more creeped out by - Bob from Bob's Game or the typical Mother fan?

02-21-2009, 04:33 PM	#18
PK FIRE! Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 9,544 Thanks: 175 Thanked 150 Times in 120 Posts	I thought that parady wasn't in violation of copyright law. Or am I mistaken about that? - You stupid dog!

02-21-2009, 04:49 PM	#19
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	They haven't ignored us, apparently. Apparently both NoA and NCL want to release EB, but the legal team won't let them. Psycho: it is. It VERY STRONGLY is. But unfortunately our culture has denigrated into what Tomato calls a "sue happy" culture, where people sue people for anything and everything, especially in the entertainment industry, where about 80% of the lawsuits are frivolous and a good chunk of the rest are against people who are completely innocent. And the lawyers make a TON of money off of them. I actually blame part of the economic collapse on these numerous lawsuits. They have a horrible impact on our economy and create a culture of fear. This culture of fear is what's driving Nintendo's lawyers. So much of the parody is so close to some actual content, especially music-wise, that they're so afraid the RIAA, which is the KING of frivolous lawsuits (so much that they probably make a lot of money that way), will sue them. And these lawyers are paid big bucks to most likely prevent lawsuits from happening, not get sued and go to court and say "this is why this lawsuit is total crap." It's horrible, but it's the truth. The good news, though, is at least we know the root of the problem, so we can go about solving it. It will be VERY difficult, but we have to recruit people en masse in order for it to be effective. And these are my words, not Tomato's or anyone else's. We have to change the culture. -CSM

02-21-2009, 05:29 PM	#20
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	Wait...don't they think some of the songs sound like a Monty Python theme? Isn't that public domain?