FF14 officially announced as another stupid online game - Page 2

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 06-05-2009, 03:56 AM

Hurrrr, you wanna know why MMO's require a fee in most cases?

They are consistantly updated, which requires game dev's to constantly be devolping for that game, which is money and time consuming, doesn't take a genius to know that they'll need funding for said case.

When you play an MMO, you're playing for a game that is constantly evolving, I'd play an MMO, over a game that ends at a certain point anyday.

heh · 06-05-2009, 04:09 PM

yeah man it sucks having to pay for every tf2 and l4d update

Sim Kid · 06-05-2009, 05:37 PM

^MMOFPSes are different.

Think more like EverQuest or World of Warcraft that do stuff like add new classes, fix issues, add new dungeons and zomes...where're the new classes in Team Fortress 2?

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 06-05-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TEXAN TERRORIST

yeah man it sucks having to pay for every tf2 and l4d update

I was refering to MMORPGs, updating an MMOFPS requires alot less effort on the devolpers part, making it easier to work it all, plus, MMOFPS major updates are no where NEAR the scale of a major MMORPG update.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-05-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomby

Transcript:

*BRRRRING, BRRRRING*

Receptionist: Square Enix, this is Jamie speaking, how may I help you?

CSM: Yes, this is CSM?

Jamie: Who?

CSM: You know, CSM from VGF.

Jamie: *flustered* Oh, yeah, CSM from VGF. Uhh... what is it that VGF does?

CSM: Never mind that, let me speak to your manager.

Jamie: Okay, one sec, please hole

---------

Jamie: Umm... Roy? CSM from VGF is on the phone for you. I think it's important.

Roy: VGF? You mean the Virginian Goat Farmers?

Jamie: I'm not sure... I didn't ask what he was looking for but I think he means business.

Roy: Fine. Hurry. Give me the damn phone already.

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Roy: Square Enix, this is Roy speaking.

CSM: Show me Final Fantasy 14 in a normal format.

*click*

[end scene]

WINNAR.

ZG: Because I've heard so many horror stories about MMO players, written by MMO players. And frankly I'm not as hardcore a gamer as I was in my youth. -CSM

Panfan · 06-05-2009, 09:50 PM

I don't play MMOs because I'm a cheap bastard. I'm sure I'd like WoW if I played it, but I honestly don't have the money or time to do it. That's also why I don't have a 360 yet, because I'm going to want Live as soon as I get it, but I don't have anything in my pockets.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-05-2009, 10:29 PM

^I actually agree with that post. Right now I'm extremely poor and am losing money monthly (hopefully that will change after July). -CSM

Sim Kid · 06-05-2009, 10:37 PM

It's fully possible to have a 360 without live - I'm not touching live with a ski pole unless I can download a game from it.

Panfan · 06-06-2009, 02:34 PM

^ I know, but Live is one of the reasons I want a 360. I honestly don't think I'll want a 360 as much if I can't play me some CoD or Halo online.

Metal Man · 06-08-2009, 09:39 PM

Personally, these MMOs are a waste of time, because you can just buy a game like TF2 and get support practically forever for no money.

Meanwhile, in the old days I played PSO and paid for it every month--and ultimately they failed to quash cheaters OR update much of anything. Indeed, TF2 got updated more now than PSO ever was in its entire lifespan.

That said, for the FF MMO people this must be great.

Rainbow Dash · 06-08-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sim Kid

^MMOFPSes are different.

Think more like EverQuest or World of Warcraft that do stuff like add new classes, fix issues, add new dungeons and zomes...where're the new classes in Team Fortress 2?

there's going to be a 10th one supposedly

heh · 06-09-2009, 02:14 AM

what? TF2 isn't an mmofps, 24 players isn't "massively multiplayer". And it still gets constant support. And you don't need literally everything to be updated just a have constant support. TF2 is designed to have 9 classes and adding a tenth one will dramtically change the balance of everything. Not to mention adding diffirent weapons to classes mostly defined by the weapons they have is a rather signifgant change to the class and drastically changes how you play... almost like a new class. woa.

So yes, update changes the balance of things quite drastically

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-09-2009, 02:33 PM

I wonder if you can transfer your character or get some kind of bonus from your FF11 game? That'd be pretty cool.

***The Doctor*** · 06-10-2009, 09:09 AM

I've just downloaded a trailer from the PSN. (As well as one for XIII, and nearly brought and Downloaded VII too. (I'm thinking if I buy that, then they might add VIII and IX))

Sadily it doesn't show much. (XIII was pretty tho)

Auron · 06-10-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Man

Personally, these MMOs are a waste of time, because you can just buy a game like TF2 and get support practically forever for no money.

Unless your not a fan of FPSs.

Sim Kid · 06-10-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Communist Scum

what? TF2 isn't an mmofps, 24 players isn't "massively multiplayer". And it still gets constant support. And you don't need literally everything to be updated just a have constant support. TF2 is designed to have 9 classes and adding a tenth one will dramtically change the balance of everything. Not to mention adding diffirent weapons to classes mostly defined by the weapons they have is a rather signifgant change to the class and drastically changes how you play... almost like a new class. woa.

So yes, update changes the balance of things quite drastically

A new class implies something DIFFERENT and not just trying to make it so that people will actually play a scout. The only thing that really feels different is that the huntsman gives the sniper an actual reason to be on a few maps.

heh · 06-10-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Auron

Unless your not a fan of FPSs.

unless your not a fan of rpgs :smug:

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Originally Posted by Sim Kid

A new class implies something DIFFERENT and not just trying to make it so that people will actually play a scout. The only thing that really feels different is that the huntsman gives the sniper an actual reason to be on a few maps.

scout is a 3rd-4th best class in the game with none of the new items fyi

Perrin Aybara · 06-11-2009, 10:24 AM

For the record, I have nothing against MMORPGs. I'm sure they're fine games. I just don't have the time to play them, nor would I want to spend the money on them.

I disapprove of FF11 and FF14 purely for the simple reason that they shouldn't have been named into the main series of FF games. Call them something else, dammit.

A purely nonsense reason, but my reason nonetheless.

-jay

Sim Kid · 06-11-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Communist Scum

scout is a 3rd-4th best class in the game with none of the new items fyi

Then was there an actual reason to play him on a deathmatch server?

Chaos Deviot · 06-11-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

For the record, I have nothing against MMORPGs. I'm sure they're fine games. I just don't have the time to play them, nor would I want to spend the money on them.

I disapprove of FF11 and FF14 purely for the simple reason that they shouldn't have been named into the main series of FF games. Call them something else, dammit.

A purely nonsense reason, but my reason nonetheless.

-jay

Agreed. So to the point that I there's no FFXI for me(as X-2 doesn't really count), so my series ends at X, and starts up again with CC. I did enjoy it(albeit it's an offline version of your MMO(and a LOT less characters)). Playing with over 8 people total is just way too much. There's no balance, or even fun in it. Too many people try to screw with you. If I want to try XI, I'd have to pay way too much because there's no offline mode(which I would obviously have seperate from online in every way) to even practice. Such a waste of time for me(and money, possibly).

06-05-2009, 03:56 AM	#21
LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT Videos Mod Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 4,536 Thanks: 2,469 Thanked 746 Times in 413 Posts	Hurrrr, you wanna know why MMO's require a fee in most cases? They are consistantly updated, which requires game dev's to constantly be devolping for that game, which is money and time consuming, doesn't take a genius to know that they'll need funding for said case. When you play an MMO, you're playing for a game that is constantly evolving, I'd play an MMO, over a game that ends at a certain point anyday.

06-05-2009, 04:09 PM	#22
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,763 Thanks: 705 Thanked 946 Times in 619 Posts	yeah man it sucks having to pay for every tf2 and l4d update

06-05-2009, 05:37 PM	#23
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,767 Thanks: 75 Thanked 196 Times in 120 Posts	^MMOFPSes are different. Think more like EverQuest or World of Warcraft that do stuff like add new classes, fix issues, add new dungeons and zomes...where're the new classes in Team Fortress 2?

06-05-2009, 09:50 PM	#26
Panfan Analrapist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I'm awesome, and I **** dolphins Gender: Posts: 18,540 Thanks: 1,384 Thanked 2,201 Times in 1,311 Posts Blog Entries: 15	I don't play MMOs because I'm a cheap bastard. I'm sure I'd like WoW if I played it, but I honestly don't have the money or time to do it. That's also why I don't have a 360 yet, because I'm going to want Live as soon as I get it, but I don't have anything in my pockets.

06-05-2009, 10:29 PM	#27
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,747 Thanks: 1,000 Thanked 682 Times in 463 Posts	^I actually agree with that post. Right now I'm extremely poor and am losing money monthly (hopefully that will change after July). -CSM

06-05-2009, 10:37 PM	#28
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,767 Thanks: 75 Thanked 196 Times in 120 Posts	It's fully possible to have a 360 without live - I'm not touching live with a ski pole unless I can download a game from it.

06-06-2009, 02:34 PM	#29
Panfan Analrapist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I'm awesome, and I **** dolphins Gender: Posts: 18,540 Thanks: 1,384 Thanked 2,201 Times in 1,311 Posts Blog Entries: 15	^ I know, but Live is one of the reasons I want a 360. I honestly don't think I'll want a 360 as much if I can't play me some CoD or Halo online.

06-08-2009, 09:39 PM	#30
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Personally, these MMOs are a waste of time, because you can just buy a game like TF2 and get support practically forever for no money. Meanwhile, in the old days I played PSO and paid for it every month--and ultimately they failed to quash cheaters OR update much of anything. Indeed, TF2 got updated more now than PSO ever was in its entire lifespan. That said, for the FF MMO people this must be great.

06-09-2009, 02:14 AM	#32
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,763 Thanks: 705 Thanked 946 Times in 619 Posts	what? TF2 isn't an mmofps, 24 players isn't "massively multiplayer". And it still gets constant support. And you don't need literally everything to be updated just a have constant support. TF2 is designed to have 9 classes and adding a tenth one will dramtically change the balance of everything. Not to mention adding diffirent weapons to classes mostly defined by the weapons they have is a rather signifgant change to the class and drastically changes how you play... almost like a new class. woa. So yes, update changes the balance of things quite drastically

06-09-2009, 02:33 PM	#33
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I wonder if you can transfer your character or get some kind of bonus from your FF11 game? That'd be pretty cool.

06-10-2009, 09:09 AM	#34
*The Doctor* The Last Timelord. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: In the TARDIS Gender: Posts: 13,819 Thanks: 869 Thanked 647 Times in 421 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I've just downloaded a trailer from the PSN. (As well as one for XIII, and nearly brought and Downloaded VII too. (I'm thinking if I buy that, then they might add VIII and IX)) Sadily it doesn't show much. (XIII was pretty tho)

06-11-2009, 10:24 AM	#38
Perrin Aybara Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 12,760 Thanks: 194 Thanked 504 Times in 235 Posts	For the record, I have nothing against MMORPGs. I'm sure they're fine games. I just don't have the time to play them, nor would I want to spend the money on them. I disapprove of FF11 and FF14 purely for the simple reason that they shouldn't have been named into the main series of FF games. Call them something else, dammit. A purely nonsense reason, but my reason nonetheless. -jay