The good, bad and ugly of RPGs - Page 2 - VGF

Ike · 05-18-2006, 09:23 PM

^Super Mario RPG is damn near the best RPG I've ever played in my life.

Zarnium · 07-25-2006, 03:31 PM

i havent played very many good "classic" rpgs, just chrono trigger.

however, i thought that tales of symphonia got too repititous so i quit playing it after 40 hours. so... i think they should have added more variaton between dungeons.

Golden Ganon · 07-25-2006, 04:38 PM

I liked Tales of Symphonia for it's storyline, music and length.

I liked Brave Fencer Musashi for its originality in the hero's personality.

The #1 RPG I have ever played is Legend of Dragoon for the very deep emotion it expressed and for the absolutely wonderful storyline to go with it.

They played the most dramatic music at the right time. They also played music to match the atmosphere of where you were at.

It was a very long game like the Tales of Symphonia, which made me very happy.

It had wonderful character devolopment for even the most temporary of characters.

The graphics were great for that system.

I got so into that game, I even cried at times during the game.

Most people probaly know this but Spoiler Below

I was shocked when they killed lavtiz off.

So overall a great game! 10/10.

I had no RPG's that I hated.

Deviot · 07-25-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ultimate ganon

I had no RPG's that I hated.

Care to list them all for us?

StealthKnight · 08-05-2006, 03:15 PM

I think we could do is less of leveling up and more on focusing on the game. Sure we can gain levels and get stronger if we want to but not have to be forced to do it for 3 hours to beat a boss. Make it feel like we are getting stronger as we progress through the story. Don't make the game easy but don't make it impossible. Use more unique systems that give an impression of real time.

For instance Super Mario RPG allowed you to block attacks or take less damage if you hit the button at the right moment and you could do multiple attacks if you hit the button at the right time. Allow the enemies to have the same abilities and to be able to block an attack or two and even stop you from doing anymore for you attack. Also allow players to do multiple things per turn for a certain limit.

When doing like a physical attack, allow them to Punch left, right, uppercut, kick,etc for the multiple attack. The blocking would be like that too. Legend of Legia 1 and 2 and this system and you could preform unique combo's. It was fun to battle. Another thing would be to have all character usable and balanced in stead of only using three primely. I would want take care of them more unlike most games. This would make battles less boring and more of a challenge that relies on skill rather then just primarily levels, equipment, and luck.

The good things I do like about some RPG's is a fun battle system, good atmosphere, good story, nothing boring.

StealthKnight

Irby · 08-06-2006, 06:02 PM

The best RPG's Ive played are Super Mario RPG,Paper Mario 1 and 2.

Galefore · 08-10-2006, 08:21 PM

The Good: Radiata Stories(Love that game so damn much), FF9, FFs 6 and 4, Star Ocean: Till The End of Time, Grandia III, Suikoden II, Chrono Trigger, Guardian's Crusade(It was one of my first RPGs. It sucks, but it makes me nostalgic.) and the Mario RPGs. There are many more, but I'm tired of typing them.

The Bad: Grandia 2, Wild Arms 3.

The Ugly: Quina, though he/she was one of my favorite characters from that game.

Slife · 08-14-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentine

I don't understand why modern RPGs insist on sticking to exp and levelling up. I mean if you took that out you're game wouldn't suddenly be outside the genre and you could make it more gear dependant with peoples stats being dictated more by the equipment they have. It especially bugs me that because someone in the story is a mage, I cant give them warriors armour or any big swords. I mean it cant be that hard to make every item available to every character can it?

You mean like how Dark Cloud levels up the weapons and not the characters?

CuccoLady · 08-22-2006, 09:59 PM

The Good: Tales of Symphonia. Best game I have ever laid eyes on. It has a cool storyline, lots of sidequests, and I like how you can change who talks to you in Flanoir by how much each character likes you. I almost always choose Presea or Raine.

I also liked Paper Mario very much.

The Bad: Tales of Legendia. It just wishes it could be as good as Symphonia.

The Ugly: Hmm... I haven't played too many different RPG's... I'm gonna have to say Mithos, from TOS. He looks like a girl o_0

Deviot · 08-22-2006, 10:35 PM

So does Sephiroth, but nobody complains.

Quest 64's Level Up System is pretty unique as well. One thing at a time is a nice way to go. Well, to an extent.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-22-2006, 10:58 PM

I complain about Sephigoth all the damn time. -CSM

OcarinaMan · 09-08-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarnium

i havent played very many good "classic" rpgs, just chrono trigger.

however, i thought that tales of symphonia got too repititous so i quit playing it after 40 hours. so... i think they should have added more variaton between dungeons.

If you think Tales of Symphonia had repetitive dungeons, never play Tales of Legendia. ToL has one puzzle per dungeon, no exaggeration. Other than that, it's a bunch of corridors that all look the *bleep*ing same.

And ToS and Skies of Arcadia were some of the best RPGs of the last generation. GameCube had awful quantity, but it had good quality.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-09-2006, 03:52 PM

^Is SoA all story and no gameplay? I want to buy it, but I don't want it to be another Xenosaga. -CSM

OcarinaMan · 09-09-2006, 08:33 PM

Nope, not at all like Xenosaga. Be prepared for a high random encounter rate, though.

05-18-2006, 09:23 PM	#21
Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,648 Thanks: 7 Thanked 158 Times in 111 Posts Points: 6,521.39 Bank: 185,327.42 Total Points: 191,848.81 Donate	^Super Mario RPG is damn near the best RPG I've ever played in my life.

07-25-2006, 03:31 PM	#22
Zarnium Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Gender: Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,559.05 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,559.05 Donate	i havent played very many good "classic" rpgs, just chrono trigger. however, i thought that tales of symphonia got too repititous so i quit playing it after 40 hours. so... i think they should have added more variaton between dungeons.

07-25-2006, 04:38 PM	#23
Golden Ganon Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Dakota, U.S. Gender: Posts: 3,395 Thanks: 38 Thanked 67 Times in 60 Posts Points: 9,642.60 Bank: 101.02 Total Points: 9,743.62 Donate	I liked Tales of Symphonia for it's storyline, music and length. I liked Brave Fencer Musashi for its originality in the hero's personality. The #1 RPG I have ever played is Legend of Dragoon for the very deep emotion it expressed and for the absolutely wonderful storyline to go with it. They played the most dramatic music at the right time. They also played music to match the atmosphere of where you were at. It was a very long game like the Tales of Symphonia, which made me very happy. It had wonderful character devolopment for even the most temporary of characters. The graphics were great for that system. I got so into that game, I even cried at times during the game. Most people probaly know this but Spoiler Below I was shocked when they killed lavtiz off. So overall a great game! 10/10. I had no RPG's that I hated.

08-05-2006, 03:15 PM	#25
StealthKnight Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine Gender: Posts: 166 Thanks: 15 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 1,505.70 Bank: 455.76 Total Points: 1,961.46 Donate	I think we could do is less of leveling up and more on focusing on the game. Sure we can gain levels and get stronger if we want to but not have to be forced to do it for 3 hours to beat a boss. Make it feel like we are getting stronger as we progress through the story. Don't make the game easy but don't make it impossible. Use more unique systems that give an impression of real time. For instance Super Mario RPG allowed you to block attacks or take less damage if you hit the button at the right moment and you could do multiple attacks if you hit the button at the right time. Allow the enemies to have the same abilities and to be able to block an attack or two and even stop you from doing anymore for you attack. Also allow players to do multiple things per turn for a certain limit. When doing like a physical attack, allow them to Punch left, right, uppercut, kick,etc for the multiple attack. The blocking would be like that too. Legend of Legia 1 and 2 and this system and you could preform unique combo's. It was fun to battle. Another thing would be to have all character usable and balanced in stead of only using three primely. I would want take care of them more unlike most games. This would make battles less boring and more of a challenge that relies on skill rather then just primarily levels, equipment, and luck. The good things I do like about some RPG's is a fun battle system, good atmosphere, good story, nothing boring. StealthKnight

08-06-2006, 06:02 PM	#26
Irby Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada, Eh. Gender: Posts: 6,448 Thanks: 306 Thanked 93 Times in 78 Posts Blog Entries: 5 Points: 37,658.60 Bank: 13,655.09 Total Points: 51,313.69 Donate	The best RPG's Ive played are Super Mario RPG,Paper Mario 1 and 2.

08-10-2006, 08:21 PM	#27
Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dry land. Gender: Posts: 5,545 Thanks: 602 Thanked 335 Times in 268 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 4,661.32 Bank: 34,721.88 Total Points: 39,383.20 Donate	The Good: Radiata Stories(Love that game so damn much), FF9, FFs 6 and 4, Star Ocean: Till The End of Time, Grandia III, Suikoden II, Chrono Trigger, Guardian's Crusade(It was one of my first RPGs. It sucks, but it makes me nostalgic.) and the Mario RPGs. There are many more, but I'm tired of typing them. The Bad: Grandia 2, Wild Arms 3. The Ugly: Quina, though he/she was one of my favorite characters from that game.

08-22-2006, 09:59 PM	#29
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: insert something awkward here Gender: Posts: 4,041 Thanks: 950 Thanked 230 Times in 186 Posts Points: 14,527.21 Bank: 8.30 Total Points: 14,535.51 Donate	The Good: Tales of Symphonia. Best game I have ever laid eyes on. It has a cool storyline, lots of sidequests, and I like how you can change who talks to you in Flanoir by how much each character likes you. I almost always choose Presea or Raine. I also liked Paper Mario very much. The Bad: Tales of Legendia. It just wishes it could be as good as Symphonia. The Ugly: Hmm... I haven't played too many different RPG's... I'm gonna have to say Mithos, from TOS. He looks like a girl o_0

08-22-2006, 10:35 PM	#30
Deviot Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 936 Thanks: 9 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Points: 5,172.59 Bank: 7,425.44 Total Points: 12,598.03 Donate	So does Sephiroth, but nobody complains. Quest 64's Level Up System is pretty unique as well. One thing at a time is a nice way to go. Well, to an extent.

08-22-2006, 10:58 PM	#31
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 7,988 Thanks: 538 Thanked 374 Times in 257 Posts Points: 127,262.75 Bank: 26,695.24 Total Points: 153,957.98 Donate	I complain about Sephigoth all the damn time. -CSM

09-09-2006, 03:52 PM	#33
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 7,988 Thanks: 538 Thanked 374 Times in 257 Posts Points: 127,262.75 Bank: 26,695.24 Total Points: 153,957.98 Donate	^Is SoA all story and no gameplay? I want to buy it, but I don't want it to be another Xenosaga. -CSM

09-09-2006, 08:33 PM	#34
OcarinaMan Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ikana Castle Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 7,929.77 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 8,429.77 Donate	Nope, not at all like Xenosaga. Be prepared for a high random encounter rate, though.