And the FF4 DS remake hit a snag.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-20-2007, 09:07 AM

It's gonna have voice acting. -CSM

Valigarmander · 09-20-2007, 09:13 AM

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-20-2007, 09:24 AM

The good news is, so far, it's only in the trailer. -CSM

Ike · 09-20-2007, 09:30 AM

I normally play my DS with the volume off anyway.

**Wyborn** · 09-21-2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

It's gonna have voice acting. -CSM

I still don't understand your borderline absurd vendetta against voice acting.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 12:19 AM

^Bad voice acting can ruin a game. -CSM

**Wyborn** · 09-21-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^Bad voice acting can ruin a game. -CSM

Not really.

But even assuming that, this isn't your actual reasoning; if it were, your first reaction to any announcement of voice acting wouldn't be a loud cough and a rolling of the eyes. You wouldn't call it one of the scourges of modern gaming. It wouldn't worry you that Square is putting it into one cutscene of FFIV.

Sometimes no comprendo.

Ike · 09-21-2007, 07:32 AM

^^But good voice acting can also help make a game. If you look at a game like, say, Oblivion, the voice acting in that game was phenominal, and it helped contribute to the entire game's awesomeness.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 08:26 AM

^Not really. Good voice acting can NEVER make a game because it's a GAME, not a movie. FFXII had great voice acting but that's not the reason why it was a great game. -CSM

Ike · 09-21-2007, 10:06 AM

^And Tales of Symphonia's voice acting was subpar, yet it didn't detract of it's value. You make it seem like voice acting in general is crap. If it can't make a game good, then how could it possibly make a game bad? It's not a one way street.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 09-21-2007, 01:15 PM

I like voice acting, because I think it definitely adds another dimension to the characters. I think we should wait until we actually experience the game's voice acting before criticizing it.

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 01:45 PM

It takes away a dimension for me. It takes away the dimension of imagination. When you can't actually hear what a character sounds like, you get to decide what they sound like on your own, and it adds an element of abstraction to the game. -CSM

Valigarmander · 09-21-2007, 06:13 PM

^ So, I take it Super Mario 64 was a departure for you?

**Crazyswordsman** · 09-21-2007, 06:58 PM

^Yep. Before then, Mario always had a New York accent. -CSM

Ike · 09-21-2007, 07:25 PM

^I take it the Mario Bros. movie did that?

Valigarmander · 09-21-2007, 08:02 PM

^^ ...Eh, you got a point there.

Sim Kid · 09-22-2007, 03:40 PM

Strange...I wouldn't have thought they'd have enough space with the typical FMVs and the extra 75% of the story they were adding to the game.

But there can be some good voices on the DS...You can actually make out what they're saying in Tales of the Tempest, even IF everyone sounds like munchkins. (But blame Japanese voice actresses for that...)

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-03-2007, 10:23 AM

Okay, and the game REALLY hit a snag. The voice acting will be for the whole game now. -CSM

**Wyborn** · 10-03-2007, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Okay, and the game REALLY hit a snag. The voice acting will be for the whole game now. -CSM

That is awesome news. I don't suppose you have a source?

**Crazyswordsman** · 10-03-2007, 10:57 AM

^It's some trailer from the Tokyo game show.

Honestly, can't fans have the right to imagine? I don't want voice imposition shoved down my throat. I want to decide what characters I like sound like. I don't want to hear "This is what character X sounds like, and you better like the voice, because we're paying someone MILLIONS to do this voice." I want my imagination and creativity back.

Oh, and here's your trailer.

Click to view video.

-CSM

09-20-2007, 09:07 AM	#1
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Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,705 Thanks: 7 Thanked 176 Times in 116 Posts Points: 10,726.99 Bank: 264,693.20 Total Points: 275,420.19 Donate	^^But good voice acting can also help make a game. If you look at a game like, say, Oblivion, the voice acting in that game was phenominal, and it helped contribute to the entire game's awesomeness.

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09-21-2007, 10:06 AM	#10
Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,705 Thanks: 7 Thanked 176 Times in 116 Posts Points: 10,726.99 Bank: 264,693.20 Total Points: 275,420.19 Donate	^And Tales of Symphonia's voice acting was subpar, yet it didn't detract of it's value. You make it seem like voice acting in general is crap. If it can't make a game good, then how could it possibly make a game bad? It's not a one way street.

09-21-2007, 01:15 PM	#11
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09-21-2007, 01:45 PM	#12
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09-21-2007, 06:13 PM	#13
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09-21-2007, 08:02 PM	#16
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Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 35,303.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 35,803.04 Donate	Strange...I wouldn't have thought they'd have enough space with the typical FMVs and the extra 75% of the story they were adding to the game. But there can be some good voices on the DS...You can actually make out what they're saying in Tales of the Tempest, even IF everyone sounds like munchkins. (But blame Japanese voice actresses for that...)

10-03-2007, 10:23 AM	#18
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