FFX is embarrassing - Page 3

Galefore · 12-16-2007, 01:53 AM

I love how you guys live to argue. My opinion remains. If I am fooling myself, so be it. I personally think I am right, and for my own benefit, that is good enough. The fact that you even care is a bit strange to me.

Besides, my opinion is a bit different from That Guy's. I think FFIX is the best 3D FF, but the others are fun to play as well. They're just not as sentimentally valuable as well as damned fun to me.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 12-16-2007, 01:58 AM

IX is good. Supremely good. But, it's been so long since I've played those, so it's not fair of me to judge until I replay them all.

**Wyborn** · 12-16-2007, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeldaGirl

IX is good. Supremely good. But, it's been so long since I've played those, so it's not fair of me to judge until I replay them all.

XII would be one of the 3D FFs, too

***ZeldaGirl*** · 12-16-2007, 02:02 AM

^Ah, yes, correct. I do have to say, I think it edges out IX by a little... but, still it's even been a while since I've played that. IX is just really nostalgic for me, it was the first I ever played, and then after playing the others I realized that intended to pay hommage to them all... very cool.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-16-2007, 02:11 AM

While FFIX does kick major ass, FFXII is better. Mainly because it has....

Follow the bouncing Balthier. -CSM

Ike · 12-16-2007, 03:55 AM

I completely disapprove of the battle system from FFXII, as well as the lack of familiar (and useful) summons (No Bahamut, Leviathan, or Alexander? WTF?). The whole gambit thing and not being in full control of your characters did not really sit over too well with me. I have yet to actually finish the game because I disapprove of the battle system so much.

Out of all the Final Fantasies I've played, X is probably my favorite, due in large part to the awesomeness that is Auron and that pointlessly addicting mini-game known as blitzball (sadly, I have yet to play FFIX). Although I do find myself muting the television every time that God-awful scene from the first post shows up.

The Doctor · 12-16-2007, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazysnowman

Against:
4. Yuna
5. Yuna's voice
6. Yuna's design
7. Yuna's wimpy attack power
8. Yuna's being not on fire the entire game
9. Music (easily one of the worst soundtracks because FFI, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, and IX all had better ones)

For:
9. Wakka
10. SG system (kicked major ass)

-CSM

Yuna isn't that bad. She's meant to have wimpy attack power, being White Mage and all (although with my SG, she is doing 1000hp at the Clam Lands.)

The Piano at the start of the game "At Zanarkand"/"The Skies Above", is one of the must beautiful pieces of piano music. Ever.

Wakka is Bleh.
Unless the SG is used in Expert Mode, then it's pants. Since Expert mode was only released in Pal versions (as far as I know.)...

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-16-2007, 10:57 AM

Auron may kick ass, and Blitzball may be tons of fun, but both of them are like little schoolgirls when compared to the greatness that is....

-CSM

**Perrin Aybara** · 12-16-2007, 02:38 PM

FF12 would probably be my favorite 3D FF game if it didn't suck so much.-jay

Sim Kid · 12-16-2007, 05:16 PM

I notice a pattern. A lot of the FFans who liked the old games better (Eg the ones who prefer VI over everything else) tend to like IX better, whereas the ones who only like the new ones (They exist; there are some who tell others that there's really no point in playing the pre VII games, and yes I have heard some FFans IRL say that) think IX is the worst of the 3D games.

To be honest, as nice as character customization is, they can easily render some characters worthless and they all wind up super-powerful. I thought it was a relief to see the old roles return. Although they still handle it well with Overdrives in X. The only reason I kept Lulu around (Despite the Aeons doing everything for her) was because her overdrive was pretty useful against elements. And Seymour Omnis.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-16-2007, 06:05 PM

^Thank you captain obvious.

Although most of the people who think FFVII is their favorite game that I talk to think FFIX is the second best and FFVI and FFXII are the next best. The VII-VIII-X fans usually consider VIII or X to be the best one.-CSM

***ZeldaGirl*** · 12-16-2007, 09:08 PM

^^I believe that is so because IX is a homage to all those other games - I mean, there are so many references to older games because IX was the last Final Fantasy made for the original PlayStation. I remember hearing that somewhere.

Sim Kid · 12-17-2007, 05:52 PM

^I think so; they did get a lot of old school stuff such as names, referencing Final Fantasy 2, and having some art drawn by Amano. (Although doesn't Amano also do the covers for XI sometimes or is it just a really good imitator?)

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Originally Posted by Crazysnowman

^Thank you captain obvious.

Although most of the people who think FFVII is their favorite game that I talk to think FFIX is the second best and FFVI and FFXII are the next best. The VII-VIII-X fans usually consider VIII or X to be the best one.-CSM

1) Your very welcome.
2) That's unusual; a lot of the people I talk to seem to who liked VII the most think it, X, and XII are the best. (Although there are still some who think VIII sucked while others think it ruled.)

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-17-2007, 06:16 PM

Most of the FFVII fans I talk to call FFVIII a disgrace. -CSM

That Guy · 12-18-2007, 08:14 AM

7 and 8 both need to die in a fire.

although 7 more for the fact that its really just an average game that is overhyped beyond rational reason. (sephiroth is not cool you idiots)

8 really does need to die in a fire though.

The Doctor · 12-18-2007, 12:21 PM

^ No you need to half die in a fire. Eight is great, apart from the whole memory lost bit.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-18-2007, 12:41 PM

What's so great about a jerky no fun to be around lead character and a cast with absolutely no development at all? -CSM

**Booyakasha** · 12-18-2007, 02:29 PM

Well, I'm not an FF fan, or even much of a fan of Japanese-style RPGs in general, but I have to say, FFVII pulled me in a ways before I got distracted by 'Rising Zan' (shut up). Last thing I remember is Cloud's crew escaping from Shadowlaw Headquarters (or whatever), with Cloud bringing up the rear, chopping up enemies while riding a motorbike, and then there's a boss encounter with a giant robot. Whereas in VIII, I quit before Squall even leaves Starfleet Academy (or whatever). So I'd say VII is better by default.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 12-18-2007, 02:30 PM

^

I've never finished VIII. I started it, and didn't like it. Perhaps I'll try again someday, but I just couldn't sit through it long enough to be remotely interested.

Ike · 12-18-2007, 02:32 PM

I finished VIII, and it probably wasn't worth my time. Second worst FF I've played.

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Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,915 Thanks: 78 Thanked 381 Times in 240 Posts Points: 12,414.03 Bank: 28,330.28 Total Points: 40,744.31 Donate	Well, I'm not an FF fan, or even much of a fan of Japanese-style RPGs in general, but I have to say, FFVII pulled me in a ways before I got distracted by 'Rising Zan' (shut up). Last thing I remember is Cloud's crew escaping from Shadowlaw Headquarters (or whatever), with Cloud bringing up the rear, chopping up enemies while riding a motorbike, and then there's a boss encounter with a giant robot. Whereas in VIII, I quit before Squall even leaves Starfleet Academy (or whatever). So I'd say VII is better by default. __________________ Boo--the only dude bad enough to rescue the president Last edited by Booyakasha; 12-18-2007 at 02:35 PM.

12-16-2007, 01:53 AM	#41
Galefore Gunjinkeeper Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On board their beautiful ship Gender: Posts: 5,810 Thanks: 693 Thanked 405 Times in 303 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Points: 2,231.89 Bank: 21,615.36 Total Points: 23,847.24 Donate	I love how you guys live to argue. My opinion remains. If I am fooling myself, so be it. I personally think I am right, and for my own benefit, that is good enough. The fact that you even care is a bit strange to me. Besides, my opinion is a bit different from That Guy's. I think FFIX is the best 3D FF, but the others are fun to play as well. They're just not as sentimentally valuable as well as damned fun to me.

12-16-2007, 01:58 AM	#42
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,069 Thanks: 514 Thanked 852 Times in 582 Posts Points: 29,059.71 Bank: 454,714.49 Total Points: 483,774.19 Donate	IX is good. Supremely good. But, it's been so long since I've played those, so it's not fair of me to judge until I replay them all.

12-16-2007, 02:02 AM	#44
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,069 Thanks: 514 Thanked 852 Times in 582 Posts Points: 29,059.71 Bank: 454,714.49 Total Points: 483,774.19 Donate	^Ah, yes, correct. I do have to say, I think it edges out IX by a little... but, still it's even been a while since I've played that. IX is just really nostalgic for me, it was the first I ever played, and then after playing the others I realized that intended to pay hommage to them all... very cool.

12-16-2007, 02:11 AM	#45
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12-16-2007, 03:55 AM	#46
Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,705 Thanks: 7 Thanked 176 Times in 116 Posts Points: 10,727.99 Bank: 264,693.20 Total Points: 275,421.19 Donate	I completely disapprove of the battle system from FFXII, as well as the lack of familiar (and useful) summons (No Bahamut, Leviathan, or Alexander? WTF?). The whole gambit thing and not being in full control of your characters did not really sit over too well with me. I have yet to actually finish the game because I disapprove of the battle system so much. Out of all the Final Fantasies I've played, X is probably my favorite, due in large part to the awesomeness that is Auron and that pointlessly addicting mini-game known as blitzball (sadly, I have yet to play FFIX). Although I do find myself muting the television every time that God-awful scene from the first post shows up.

12-16-2007, 10:57 AM	#48
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12-16-2007, 02:38 PM	#49
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12-16-2007, 05:16 PM	#50
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 35,303.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 35,803.04 Donate	I notice a pattern. A lot of the FFans who liked the old games better (Eg the ones who prefer VI over everything else) tend to like IX better, whereas the ones who only like the new ones (They exist; there are some who tell others that there's really no point in playing the pre VII games, and yes I have heard some FFans IRL say that) think IX is the worst of the 3D games. To be honest, as nice as character customization is, they can easily render some characters worthless and they all wind up super-powerful. I thought it was a relief to see the old roles return. Although they still handle it well with Overdrives in X. The only reason I kept Lulu around (Despite the Aeons doing everything for her) was because her overdrive was pretty useful against elements. And Seymour Omnis.

12-16-2007, 06:05 PM	#51
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12-16-2007, 09:08 PM	#52
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12-17-2007, 06:16 PM	#54
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,163 Thanks: 559 Thanked 403 Times in 272 Posts Points: 140,931.72 Bank: 39,667.72 Total Points: 180,599.43 Donate	Most of the FFVII fans I talk to call FFVIII a disgrace. -CSM

12-18-2007, 08:14 AM	#55
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12-18-2007, 12:21 PM	#56
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12-18-2007, 12:41 PM	#57
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,163 Thanks: 559 Thanked 403 Times in 272 Posts Points: 140,931.72 Bank: 39,667.72 Total Points: 180,599.43 Donate	What's so great about a jerky no fun to be around lead character and a cast with absolutely no development at all? -CSM

12-18-2007, 02:30 PM	#59
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,069 Thanks: 514 Thanked 852 Times in 582 Posts Points: 29,059.71 Bank: 454,714.49 Total Points: 483,774.19 Donate	^ I've never finished VIII. I started it, and didn't like it. Perhaps I'll try again someday, but I just couldn't sit through it long enough to be remotely interested.

12-18-2007, 02:32 PM	#60
Ike Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,705 Thanks: 7 Thanked 176 Times in 116 Posts Points: 10,727.99 Bank: 264,693.20 Total Points: 275,421.19 Donate	I finished VIII, and it probably wasn't worth my time. Second worst FF I've played.