Tales of Games - Page 3

EmoCL · 01-20-2008, 09:09 PM

I'm almost positive we're both right. I think that what you spoiler'd only happens during the Kratos ending, so that's the only time the... CONSEQUENCE occurs.

However, I'll bet one of your endings was the Kratos one, judging from how you know that.

Let's see, what to talk about...

For anyone who's ever beaten the game, the following should make sense. It's not a spoiler though.

For those who haven't a quick explanation: after you beat the game, you can use the GRADE (random point things) that you earn from battling or doing Katz stuff to purchase features that you carry over to the next game, such as titles (and the costumes linked to them~), unlocked memory circles, etc.

So, I took over all the level-3 kickass techniques and stuffz over.. and am STILL having issues. XD

X-3 · 01-20-2008, 09:16 PM

I think I used the GRADE shop to keep my EX Skills, in addition to some things I've forgotten.

Yeah, I got Kratos my first run, then Zelos the second.

Oh, and this battle has kickass music(WARNING: PRETTY BIG SPOILERS):

Click to view video.

**L007 is Undecided** · 01-20-2008, 09:17 PM

Techs aren't really considered a good idea to carry over, since you'll more than likely just waste TP. Plus, what if you want to switch between Strike and Tech? =/ Now, Tech USAGE is a great idea. Same with Cooking Skills and, depending on what you want to do, either EX Gems you currently have or the ones you have on hand. Doing it in storage allows you to experiment with effects more as well as

Spoiler Below

Using the EX Gem MAX you get from the final boss

X-3 · 01-20-2008, 09:27 PM

Really, I don't remember what I carried over to the next file, so maybe it wasn't EX Skills. I need to replay ToS. I'm barely remembering anything.

Cham Zord · 01-20-2008, 09:59 PM

I just carry everything over in my Tales of Symphonia file. (I usually spend ungodly amounts of time in random battles just to boost my grade.) Thanks to the Flanoir scene, the game has a high enough replay value to keep me going. (Not to mention Mithos Yggdrassil; my favorite video game character next to Conker.)

I have Tales of Phantasia. I got pretty far in it, too, but my file got erased. I was saving, the power was low, and, well, you can guess the rest. I invested about 40 hours of my time into that game, so after my file was erased, I decided not to pick it up again.

I haven't played any of the others. I'm just hoping the Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk ends up being released in the US. I couldn't stand to see a Tales of Symphonia sequel slip through my hands. >_<

**L007 is Undecided** · 01-20-2008, 10:35 PM

Considering the fact that Symphonia suffered poor sales in Japan, yet maintained very high sales here in the US, I highly doubt that Knight of Ratatosk wouldn't get translated.

... What the hell is Ratatosk, anyway?

Cham Zord · 01-21-2008, 10:44 AM

The sequel to Tales of Symphonia. Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk, Wiki it. It's for the Wii, supposed to be released sometime in spring of this year, and, according to the trailers, Lloyd is an enemy. Which is too bad. I guess all of the old characters are playable, too, in addition to some newer faces. Too bad about Lloyd being an enemy, though; I'd rather see Colette be an enemy than Lloyd, heh. Unless Lloyd turns out being one of those Sheena cases. Either way, it's supposed to be a Wii-exclusive, meaning none of that PS2-exclusive crap.

EmoCL · 01-21-2008, 06:00 PM

I don't think all of the characters are PLAYABLE, but some you can see.

I think the only character you don't see is Kratos Spoiler Below

since he's in Derris-Kharlan and all

, but I may be wrong.

But yeah, Lloyd is kind of portrayed as an antagonist, but according to Wiki-this may be false-Colette is playable.

Dunno about the others; I think they're in it, but I don't THINK they're playable. But I wouldn't know.

---still dying on Botta---

Sim Kid · 01-21-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

Heh...what does that even mean...? Heh.

Anyway, I've only played ToS. I thought it was fun to play, but I think the over-cliched-ness of the game killed any chance that I'll ever play it again.-jay

Fighting with Bolt for not being able to recognize how good a game was. ;p

DELICIOUS POISON · 01-21-2008, 10:43 PM

ToS was very cool a lot of the time, especially later in the game. When it starts out, though, it's hard to get around a lot of the artists' lackluster animations (exploding camp/base anyone?) and the somewhat clichéd characters/voice actors. Still a lot of personality shows through in the game, especially in the skits. They became a real treat, once I really got into the game.

I tried to get into the fan-translated ToP, but the battle controls were a little harder to wrap my head around (without a manual). Similarily, way too many random encounters in ToP. Hell, any random encounters are too many in any game.

Sim Kid · 01-21-2008, 10:49 PM

I can't stand playing Tales of Phantasia - the game stops whenever your dudes cast a spell. It gets VERY annoying when you're forced to use Mint, Arche, and Claus for like more than half the game.

Tad Venture · 01-23-2008, 11:58 AM

Well, I was sick on Monday and Tuesday, so I had to stay in my dorm room for 2 days straight. Long story short, I clocked circa 25 hours into ToS.

Sheena is awesomely awesome, but how do you get her to do summons in battle? I like her character more than her fighting.

Zelos pisses me off and I really don't like him. At all.

So, as I stand, I just saved Colette in the sky and am about to enter the Earth Temple. I gotta say, though, that Dragon Boss was complete hell on single-player, since Presea/Zelos/Regal kept charging into the center like idiots and getting raped by the Nest Crack. I won because I pretty much paused every 3 seconds to tell Zelos exactly what techs to do.

I dunno what ending I'm gonna do yet, though. I'm thinking Sheena.

**L007 is Undecided** · 01-24-2008, 05:36 PM

You need to get Sheena into an Overlimit. This is the precursor to Mystic Artes in Tales of the Abyss, where you cast them when you go into Overlimit. However, since Overlimits happen automatically in Symphonia, it's just something you need to have quick reflexes about. If you do a summon right away, then there's no way you can be interrupted, at least.

... I just finally found out how to do FOF Changes with the Magic Users in Abyss. >_> Wow. Well, now I can use Jade's awesome skills more often instead of relying on his High Artes to create a full FOF for Luke/Guy to come in and beat the tar out of the enemies.

X-3 · 01-24-2008, 05:52 PM

I've never found summons to be all that useful, damage-wise at least. Mostly because I've forgotten how the hell you get a character into Overlimit in the first place.

Tad Venture · 01-24-2008, 06:23 PM

I think it has something to do with a lot of guarded attacks. That's what it's been in my experience anyway--not sure if that's actually it or not.

EmoCL · 01-24-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ML

Well, I was sick on Monday and Tuesday, so I had to stay in my dorm room for 2 days straight. Long story short, I clocked circa 25 hours into ToS.

Do you like it as much as I do? Probably not, but do you like it a lot at least??

Quote:

Sheena is awesomely awesome, but how do you get her to do summons in battle? I like her character more than her fighting.

Overlimit. And her summoning abilities can be kickass later on, especially if you get Maxwell.

Spoiler Below

I beat kuchinawa that way.

Quote:

Zelos pisses me off and I really don't like him. At all.

Hah, I think he's hilarious. Yet, at the beginning, he is also quite good at pissing people off. That's the only time in the whole game when Genis cusses. XDD

Quote:

So, as I stand, I just saved Colette in the sky and am about to enter the Earth Temple. I gotta say, though, that Dragon Boss was complete hell on single-player, since Presea/Zelos/Regal kept charging into the center like idiots and getting raped by the Nest Crack. I won because I pretty much paused every 3 seconds to tell Zelos exactly what techs to do.

Yes. Computers are extremely annoying... now that I'm playing on Mania mode I've been just pretty much doing solos, too. Teammates are always retarded. :/

Quote:

I dunno what ending I'm gonna do yet, though. I'm thinking Sheena.

Hey, I'm gonna do Sheena too!!

...excuse me while I go beat the crap out of Botta. Laytrz

EDIT: Blast you, Botta. Blast you and your blasted Rock Breaker.

**L007 is Undecided** · 01-24-2008, 10:24 PM

Spoiler Below

Just kicked Arietta's ass in Cheagle Woods. Yeah, I think I'm overleveled, since Guy easily survived Evil Light and I only used one Mystic Arte, Innocent Shine. Not even a FOF Arte.

Gotta send Jade through the Colosseum soon. Nearly level 58, I'm sure I can get through more easily than any other magic user (Why, Genis? Why do you suck at melee?)

EmoCL · 01-24-2008, 10:25 PM

Because he fights with a flippin' KENDAMA.

...

Which, inevitably, makes him even more awesome.

Tad Venture · 01-25-2008, 05:55 PM

I like the skits with the characters trying to use the kendama. Makes me laugh.

So, I just got Celsius, and I'm back Spoiler Below

in Sylvarant. I'm about to go back into the Palmacosta ranch.

EmoCL · 01-25-2008, 06:12 PM

Oooh... you ARE pretty dang far.

... that Kendama skit makes me laugh EVERY PLAYTHROUGH. XDD

*still dying on Botta*

....I'm thinking that maybe I ought to alter my plan... maybe I'll play this game on Hard, then do Hard Path on Hard, THEN do Mania, then Hard Path Mania, then Hard Path Mania 1/2 experience...

...that will be quite a challenge.

01-20-2008, 09:17 PM	#43
L007 is Undecided Axe Shreddin' Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: Farmerland. Gender: Posts: 7,413 Thanks: 96 Thanked 313 Times in 183 Posts Points: 5,322.03 Bank: 21,057.77 Total Points: 26,379.80 Donate	Techs aren't really considered a good idea to carry over, since you'll more than likely just waste TP. Plus, what if you want to switch between Strike and Tech? =/ Now, Tech USAGE is a great idea. Same with Cooking Skills and, depending on what you want to do, either EX Gems you currently have or the ones you have on hand. Doing it in storage allows you to experiment with effects more as well as Spoiler Below Using the EX Gem MAX you get from the final boss __________________ Can I has signature?

01-20-2008, 10:35 PM	#46
L007 is Undecided Axe Shreddin' Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: Farmerland. Gender: Posts: 7,413 Thanks: 96 Thanked 313 Times in 183 Posts Points: 5,322.03 Bank: 21,057.77 Total Points: 26,379.80 Donate	Considering the fact that Symphonia suffered poor sales in Japan, yet maintained very high sales here in the US, I highly doubt that Knight of Ratatosk wouldn't get translated. ... What the hell is Ratatosk, anyway? __________________ Can I has signature?

01-24-2008, 05:36 PM	#53
L007 is Undecided Axe Shreddin' Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: Farmerland. Gender: Posts: 7,413 Thanks: 96 Thanked 313 Times in 183 Posts Points: 5,322.03 Bank: 21,057.77 Total Points: 26,379.80 Donate	You need to get Sheena into an Overlimit. This is the precursor to Mystic Artes in Tales of the Abyss, where you cast them when you go into Overlimit. However, since Overlimits happen automatically in Symphonia, it's just something you need to have quick reflexes about. If you do a summon right away, then there's no way you can be interrupted, at least. ... I just finally found out how to do FOF Changes with the Magic Users in Abyss. >_> Wow. Well, now I can use Jade's awesome skills more often instead of relying on his High Artes to create a full FOF for Luke/Guy to come in and beat the tar out of the enemies. __________________ Can I has signature?

01-24-2008, 10:24 PM	#57
L007 is Undecided Axe Shreddin' Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: Farmerland. Gender: Posts: 7,413 Thanks: 96 Thanked 313 Times in 183 Posts Points: 5,322.03 Bank: 21,057.77 Total Points: 26,379.80 Donate	Spoiler Below Just kicked Arietta's ass in Cheagle Woods. Yeah, I think I'm overleveled, since Guy easily survived Evil Light and I only used one Mystic Arte, Innocent Shine. Not even a FOF Arte. Gotta send Jade through the Colosseum soon. Nearly level 58, I'm sure I can get through more easily than any other magic user (Why, Genis? Why do you suck at melee?) __________________ Can I has signature?

01-20-2008, 09:09 PM	#41
EmoCL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BADABBADCABABADKFAFEAWVEAOFA IMMA SCAT MAN Gender: Posts: 4,408 Thanks: 1,138 Thanked 378 Times in 319 Posts Points: 10,082.06 Bank: 717.81 Total Points: 10,799.87 Donate	I'm almost positive we're both right. I think that what you spoiler'd only happens during the Kratos ending, so that's the only time the... CONSEQUENCE occurs. However, I'll bet one of your endings was the Kratos one, judging from how you know that. Let's see, what to talk about... For anyone who's ever beaten the game, the following should make sense. It's not a spoiler though. For those who haven't a quick explanation: after you beat the game, you can use the GRADE (random point things) that you earn from battling or doing Katz stuff to purchase features that you carry over to the next game, such as titles (and the costumes linked to them~), unlocked memory circles, etc. So, I took over all the level-3 kickass techniques and stuffz over.. and am STILL having issues. XD

01-20-2008, 09:27 PM	#44
X-3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brigade HQ Gender: Posts: 9,242 Thanks: 280 Thanked 323 Times in 240 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Points: 13,993.48 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 13,993.48 Donate	Really, I don't remember what I carried over to the next file, so maybe it wasn't EX Skills. I need to replay ToS. I'm barely remembering anything.

01-20-2008, 09:59 PM	#45
Cham Zord Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My toilet works! Yay! Gender: Posts: 1,935 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Points: 2,812.80 Bank: 6,813.74 Total Points: 9,626.54 Donate	I just carry everything over in my Tales of Symphonia file. (I usually spend ungodly amounts of time in random battles just to boost my grade.) Thanks to the Flanoir scene, the game has a high enough replay value to keep me going. (Not to mention Mithos Yggdrassil; my favorite video game character next to Conker.) I have Tales of Phantasia. I got pretty far in it, too, but my file got erased. I was saving, the power was low, and, well, you can guess the rest. I invested about 40 hours of my time into that game, so after my file was erased, I decided not to pick it up again. I haven't played any of the others. I'm just hoping the Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk ends up being released in the US. I couldn't stand to see a Tales of Symphonia sequel slip through my hands. >_<

01-21-2008, 10:44 AM	#47
Cham Zord Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My toilet works! Yay! Gender: Posts: 1,935 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Points: 2,812.80 Bank: 6,813.74 Total Points: 9,626.54 Donate	The sequel to Tales of Symphonia. Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk, Wiki it. It's for the Wii, supposed to be released sometime in spring of this year, and, according to the trailers, Lloyd is an enemy. Which is too bad. I guess all of the old characters are playable, too, in addition to some newer faces. Too bad about Lloyd being an enemy, though; I'd rather see Colette be an enemy than Lloyd, heh. Unless Lloyd turns out being one of those Sheena cases. Either way, it's supposed to be a Wii-exclusive, meaning none of that PS2-exclusive crap.

01-21-2008, 06:00 PM	#48
EmoCL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BADABBADCABABADKFAFEAWVEAOFA IMMA SCAT MAN Gender: Posts: 4,408 Thanks: 1,138 Thanked 378 Times in 319 Posts Points: 10,082.06 Bank: 717.81 Total Points: 10,799.87 Donate	I don't think all of the characters are PLAYABLE, but some you can see. I think the only character you don't see is Kratos Spoiler Below since he's in Derris-Kharlan and all , but I may be wrong. But yeah, Lloyd is kind of portrayed as an antagonist, but according to Wiki-this may be false-Colette is playable. Dunno about the others; I think they're in it, but I don't THINK they're playable. But I wouldn't know. ---still dying on Botta---

01-21-2008, 10:43 PM	#50
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,165 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,332 Times in 688 Posts Points: 4,662.00 Bank: 2,276,668.29 Total Points: 2,281,330.29 Donate	ToS was very cool a lot of the time, especially later in the game. When it starts out, though, it's hard to get around a lot of the artists' lackluster animations (exploding camp/base anyone?) and the somewhat clichéd characters/voice actors. Still a lot of personality shows through in the game, especially in the skits. They became a real treat, once I really got into the game. I tried to get into the fan-translated ToP, but the battle controls were a little harder to wrap my head around (without a manual). Similarily, way too many random encounters in ToP. Hell, any random encounters are too many in any game.

01-21-2008, 10:49 PM	#51
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,869 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 29 Posts Points: 34,718.04 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 35,218.04 Donate	I can't stand playing Tales of Phantasia - the game stops whenever your dudes cast a spell. It gets VERY annoying when you're forced to use Mint, Arche, and Claus for like more than half the game.

01-23-2008, 11:58 AM	#52
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,841.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,455.38 Donate	Well, I was sick on Monday and Tuesday, so I had to stay in my dorm room for 2 days straight. Long story short, I clocked circa 25 hours into ToS. Sheena is awesomely awesome, but how do you get her to do summons in battle? I like her character more than her fighting. Zelos pisses me off and I really don't like him. At all. So, as I stand, I just saved Colette in the sky and am about to enter the Earth Temple. I gotta say, though, that Dragon Boss was complete hell on single-player, since Presea/Zelos/Regal kept charging into the center like idiots and getting raped by the Nest Crack. I won because I pretty much paused every 3 seconds to tell Zelos exactly what techs to do. I dunno what ending I'm gonna do yet, though. I'm thinking Sheena.

01-24-2008, 05:52 PM	#54
X-3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brigade HQ Gender: Posts: 9,242 Thanks: 280 Thanked 323 Times in 240 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Points: 13,993.48 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 13,993.48 Donate	I've never found summons to be all that useful, damage-wise at least. Mostly because I've forgotten how the hell you get a character into Overlimit in the first place.

01-24-2008, 06:23 PM	#55
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,841.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,455.38 Donate	I think it has something to do with a lot of guarded attacks. That's what it's been in my experience anyway--not sure if that's actually it or not.

01-24-2008, 10:25 PM	#58
EmoCL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BADABBADCABABADKFAFEAWVEAOFA IMMA SCAT MAN Gender: Posts: 4,408 Thanks: 1,138 Thanked 378 Times in 319 Posts Points: 10,082.06 Bank: 717.81 Total Points: 10,799.87 Donate	Because he fights with a flippin' KENDAMA. ... Which, inevitably, makes him even more awesome.

01-25-2008, 05:55 PM	#59
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,664 Thanks: 545 Thanked 660 Times in 389 Posts Points: 86,841.62 Bank: 108,613.76 Total Points: 195,455.38 Donate	I like the skits with the characters trying to use the kendama. Makes me laugh. So, I just got Celsius, and I'm back Spoiler Below in Sylvarant. I'm about to go back into the Palmacosta ranch.

01-25-2008, 06:12 PM	#60
EmoCL Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: BADABBADCABABADKFAFEAWVEAOFA IMMA SCAT MAN Gender: Posts: 4,408 Thanks: 1,138 Thanked 378 Times in 319 Posts Points: 10,082.06 Bank: 717.81 Total Points: 10,799.87 Donate	Oooh... you ARE pretty dang far. ... that Kendama skit makes me laugh EVERY PLAYTHROUGH. XDD still dying on Botta ....I'm thinking that maybe I ought to alter my plan... maybe I'll play this game on Hard, then do Hard Path on Hard, THEN do Mania, then Hard Path Mania, then Hard Path Mania 1/2 experience... ...that will be quite a challenge.