Tales of Games

CuccoLady · 01-16-2008, 07:13 PM

...There have probably been a million threads like this, but OH WELL. I wanna talk about ToS and TotA, blast it. :P

ANYWAY.

This here place is a thread where we can discuss the awesome games of the Tales of series...

I, being a horrible person, have only played three games from this series, and have beaten two... one of which is my FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME.

The three games I have played:

1. Tales of Legendia. Played about a half hour before I got sick and tired of the mazelike dungeons with literally ONE puzzle per dungeon. Also, I'd watched my sister beat it before, and I HATE the characters for the most part.

Spoiler Below

That part when Senel tells Shirley why she shouldn't destroy the world, she says, "Thank you, Senel. With those words engraved in my heart, I shall now fulfill my destiny." I FLIPPIN HATE HER. SHE CAN DIE SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY FOR ALL I CARE.

2. Tales of the Abyss. Beat it... a truly great game. It has that traditional Tales Of feel, with a deep storyline, loveable characters, and trillions of plot-twists. The 'free-run' system is made of win, and it is a fun, awesome, kickass game. The graphics are awesome as well, and I just LOVE IT.

Spoiler Below

the first time Van revealed himself as being so horribly cruel and evil, I was like... OMG. The game made me feel the way Luke must have after Van used him... except I was able to accept the fact, unlike Mr. Hardheaded Hero.

...My sister and I once got into a 20-minute long argument about whether Luke looks better with long or short hair. I said short, she said long... XD

3. Tales of Symphonia. This is my hands-down favorite game of all time. I love it for pretty much the same reasons as Abyss, and also...

Spoiler Below

I love how you can alter the ending depending on who you speak to in Flanoir. This really gets you to know all of the characters, and it also gives the game awesome replay value.

I have beaten this game three different times, and am in my fourth playthrough...

Another thing that gives this game such great replay value is the option of the 'Hard Path', which

Spoiler Below

allows you to get Sheena earlier. Instead of riding the Izoold boat to Palmacosta, you walk to Hima and do the stuff up there before even entering Palmacosta. The scenes are much funnier with Sheena around, especially if you've already beaten the game once.

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Also, for any of you who have heard any of my rants about other video games, you'll know that a huge part of me is a musician... so when I play a video game, the music has a HUGE effect on me.

The soundtracks of both Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Symphonia were awesome, in my opinion. (Sheena's/Summon Spirit's battle music was, quite simply, AWESOME.)

ANYWAY. I could go on for another twenty minutes about these games, but I figure it's best to let other people speak...

CARE TO SHARE ABOUT TALES OF GAMES??

**Loot the Orphan Shover** · 01-16-2008, 07:25 PM

Tales of the Abyss is truly a deep game, although there are some parts about the plot that makes me cringe. Plus, Jade is... Jade.

Tales of Symphonia is kind of cliché at times, but with characters like Zelos and Presea, it's simply amazing.

Tales of Eternia is also pretty fun. The weapon system is nice, being able to choose between swords, spears, and axes for Reid, choosing which is a good option (Swords for all average, pole arms for stabby-stabby, and axes for just hacking the hell out of your enemies). Shame that all "official" portrayals of Reid have him with a sword, despite the fact that Demon Hammer is more suited for the axe.

~~I hate Tales of Destiny I hate Tales of Destiny I hate Tales of Destiny~~

I have yet to play Legendia. Eh.

And I have yet to get far in Phantasia. It will have to be the SNES translation unless there is a translated PSX ISO.

CuccoLady · 01-16-2008, 07:30 PM

I love Jade. XD

And yes, you have a point... ToS can be VERY cliched. However, when it does so it adds a plot twist or a character or SOMETHING that turns that cliche into something AMAZING.

...Or at least that's what I think. It seems that when it gets too cliche'd, it adds a twist later that just makes that cliche its own.

...yeah, I'm biased. What of it. :P

Sir Bolt the Dragoon · 01-16-2008, 08:49 PM

Phantasia, the original, is by far the best. Symphonia was cliched, yes, but I enjoyed it.

However...

I CANNOT stand Abyss. That game itself was an abyss...good god. And we're playing through Legendia now and aren't too impressed. I think Namco has been losing its touch.

X-3 · 01-16-2008, 09:43 PM

I've only played Symphonia. Cliche, but badass. I've played it two times, one time I went for Kratos, the other time Zelos.

My party was usually Lloyd, Genis, Raine and Zelos/Kratos.

CuccoLady · 01-17-2008, 06:54 PM

My first time I went for Presea, then Genis, then Raine. I'm working on Sheena now.

I plan to do Regal next then get Colette out of the way, and save the two best... first Kratos, then Zelos... for last.

Yes, I plan to play it eight times. Why? Because I frickin' love it THAT MUCH.

...Mania mode is HARD. I'm in Triet right now, and the 3 desians there have killed me at LEAST six times by now.

My computer Genis is an idiot... ><

Sim Kid · 01-18-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Bolt the Dragoon

I CANNOT stand Abyss. That game itself was an abyss...good god. And we're playing through Legendia now and aren't too impressed. I think Namco has been losing its touch.

oh god dont' tell me I have to go all "Jay" on you.

Legendia wasn't really anything special. Although apparently Tempest in Japan was far worse. (All I know is that it's only about 10 hours long and has no grade shop so therefore minimal replay value)

Spoiler Below

And Shirley's useless when she finally does join - At least until the very end of the game if she learns Tidal Wave.

I absolutely loved Abyss. Aside from Natalia using items when I tell her NOT to or melees not being able to run away from a mystic arte it had some rather good AI. It needs improvement in some areas though, like Natalia's voice which I found kind of too high-pitched. (And her battle cries sounded like she stepped on something sharp or something.) Another thing that sort of bothers me is that Luke sounds liek he's saying "Tick Tock Tick Tock" if you like make him attack while swinging the sword upwards. Another thing I'd have liked is

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To see Dist the Runny using that Mystic Arte cut-in people found.

I am fully aware Luke is whiny and matures, but I think that's actually somewhat realistic. I always found it strange how someone annoying whiny dude matures instantly and never reverts to his old habits of whining, although not as bad as it was originally. Same with the "Reformed villains" (Except for Tatjana of Arc the lad 4) who always change their ways and become good. I also liked the role reversal of the boy being the whiny one and not the girl. Same with how Tear can actually defend herself unlike a specific Colette Brunel. Other than Mieu, Ion, and Natalia the voice acting was also very well done. Tear and Anise have the best U.S. Voices. (But having even Natalia's voice actress would have been an improvement over that squeal that was Anise's Japanese VA. D: )

one thing I also liked was
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That Ion and Sync as well as Asch and Luke had teh same voice actors. they WERE replicas of each other after all.

IMO what Tales really needs to do less of is trying to make that "The hero is not exactly evil". Yes it was a very good twist that made Dhaos memorable - Great job Namco. Now stop using it before Dhaos becomes a stock character.

Wyborn · 01-18-2008, 04:52 PM

Do all of these games come with co-op? I like playing games like this with a friend and it's really something me and SilverWind could get into.

Sim Kid · 01-18-2008, 07:11 PM

Yes, some of them have co-op. Abyss has co-op but only with two-players. (I'm sure that the rest of the ones on PS2/whatever have two-player co-op)

...BUT, Symphonia has four-player Co-Op. IMO that was a really nice feature for those of you who have 3 players willing to play. four players can score soem pretty nice combos with Lloyd and Regal + 2 others. (Dunno we usually had Genis and Raine be the other 2.)

CuccoLady · 01-18-2008, 09:12 PM

^ I once fought Abyssion with me as Raine, a ten-year-old as Lloyd, and a seven-year-old as Genis. Our computer was Sheena.

... ToS is a great game... it's really fun single, but I have to say that playing with a group full of people at once is AWESOMELY FANTASTICALLY UBERNESS FUN. It's INSANITY... with everyone shouting out battle cries and trying not to cuss in front of the children. XD

... wait.

Abyss has two-player?? SRSLY??!!

That is awesome. I need to go find my sister now...

...yes, one reason I really liked the whole Tear/Luke scenario was the situation was REVERSED. No damsel in distress... she's a kickass soldier, while Luke is the ignorant whiny brat. (Well, the ignorance isn't his fault... but still.)

Oh, and not to mention that

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THIS HAPPENS AT THE GAME'S VERY END SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T READ

Tear actually ADMITS that she loves Luke. That's really rare in games, and I really like it for some reasons. Obviously her feelings must be really strong for a tough woman like herself to admit that.

...Colette can be EXTREMELY annoying and defenseless at times, but you do have to admit that she's strong. She can be obnoxious, but she also can be adorable-sometimes-and also quite strong internally. (The same cannot be said about her exterior without Angel techniques. ZOMG LETS THROW OUR FRISBEE AT THE ENEMY AND SEE IF THEY DIE!!!1!111)

Chunky Kong12345 · 01-18-2008, 09:21 PM

STARDUST CROSS

CuccoLady · 01-19-2008, 12:22 AM

Oh, and also, the Mystic Artes were nice in Abyss. For Tales of Symphonia, the only characters with special attacks were Genis and Lloyd, and you had to do a crapload of stuff to get them.

The biggest reason I'm so bent over Symphonia is, well, nostalgia, and as I've already mentioned, the eight different endings.

I can't freaking WAIT to do Zelos's ending... it's amazing that I've played this game thrice and counting, but he's still a complete mystery to me. HOW AWESOME.... there are STILL spoilers in this game for me!!

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-19-2008, 02:43 PM

I have yet to play these, and I've only heard good things about them. I don't want to play ToS. Which one is the best? -CSM

CuccoLady · 01-19-2008, 03:58 PM

Why don't you want to play ToS?

Well, if you don't want to play that one... (

) play Abyss.

Well, I've heard great things about Phantasia, too.... just haven't played it meself.

But seriously, don't play Legendia. It's tedious, obnoxious as hell, and just GAAH.

So, since you don't want to play ToS, I suggest Abyss, and I'm sure others will give you their own opinions.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-19-2008, 04:09 PM

Are they all for the Cube? -CSM

CuccoLady · 01-19-2008, 04:11 PM

ToS is the only one for the Cube.

God-awful Legendia is for PS2, and kickass Abyss is also for PS2.

Sim Kid · 01-19-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuccoLady

^ I once fought Abyssion with me as Raine, a ten-year-old as Lloyd, and a seven-year-old as Genis. Our computer was Sheena.

And you beat Abyssion, right? Abyssion is a joke.

...but the same can't be said about Nebilim in Tales of the Abyss. On like unknown mode she has two million health. (And like 320,000 in regular) And if you aren't leveled enough, you'll be dealing one damage.

Also, the U.S. Version of Tales of the Abyss actually got some stuff added to it, unlike stupid Japan which always gets the Final mix stuff or Tales of Symphonia PS2 version with extras! (But then again, Nintendo paid for the translation and voice acting, didn't they?)

The U.S. version of Nebilim is actually harder - Instead ofj ust having Time Stop and Big Bang, she has like seven. Including Fragmented End, which is usually instant doom right there. (But Indignation I've seen it hit for 31k. O_o)

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-19-2008, 06:54 PM

I can't play those then because the PS2 won't open. -CSM

**Loot the Orphan Shover** · 01-19-2008, 06:56 PM

'Yup, Nibilim now has many Mystic Artes at her disposal. As well, not only do all of the characters now have second Mystic Artes, Luke's Radiant Howl has Ion helping him as well as Tear having an extension of Fortune's Arc.

CuccoLady · 01-19-2008, 11:10 PM

My sister made it sound as though Nebilim was fairly easy. She must've done it on easy... (I didn't have the patience to get Mieu Fire 2 and get all of the weapons. I plan to do that next playthrough)

And, CSM, I'm cool with your opinion and not wanting to play ToS and all... but could you at least explain why you don't want to play it?

I'm nosy and obnoxious and obsessed with this game, so I want to know.

01-16-2008, 07:13 PM	#1
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	Tales of Games ...There have probably been a million threads like this, but OH WELL. I wanna talk about ToS and TotA, blast it. :P ANYWAY. This here place is a thread where we can discuss the awesome games of the Tales of series... I, being a horrible person, have only played three games from this series, and have beaten two... one of which is my FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME. The three games I have played: 1. Tales of Legendia. Played about a half hour before I got sick and tired of the mazelike dungeons with literally ONE puzzle per dungeon. Also, I'd watched my sister beat it before, and I HATE the characters for the most part. Spoiler Below That part when Senel tells Shirley why she shouldn't destroy the world, she says, "Thank you, Senel. With those words engraved in my heart, I shall now fulfill my destiny." I FLIPPIN HATE HER. SHE CAN DIE SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY FOR ALL I CARE. 2. Tales of the Abyss. Beat it... a truly great game. It has that traditional Tales Of feel, with a deep storyline, loveable characters, and trillions of plot-twists. The 'free-run' system is made of win, and it is a fun, awesome, kickass game. The graphics are awesome as well, and I just LOVE IT. Spoiler Below the first time Van revealed himself as being so horribly cruel and evil, I was like... OMG. The game made me feel the way Luke must have after Van used him... except I was able to accept the fact, unlike Mr. Hardheaded Hero. ...My sister and I once got into a 20-minute long argument about whether Luke looks better with long or short hair. I said short, she said long... XD 3. Tales of Symphonia. This is my hands-down favorite game of all time. I love it for pretty much the same reasons as Abyss, and also... Spoiler Below I love how you can alter the ending depending on who you speak to in Flanoir. This really gets you to know all of the characters, and it also gives the game awesome replay value. I have beaten this game three different times, and am in my fourth playthrough... Another thing that gives this game such great replay value is the option of the 'Hard Path', which Spoiler Below allows you to get Sheena earlier. Instead of riding the Izoold boat to Palmacosta, you walk to Hima and do the stuff up there before even entering Palmacosta. The scenes are much funnier with Sheena around, especially if you've already beaten the game once. --- Also, for any of you who have heard any of my rants about other video games, you'll know that a huge part of me is a musician... so when I play a video game, the music has a HUGE effect on me. The soundtracks of both Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Symphonia were awesome, in my opinion. (Sheena's/Summon Spirit's battle music was, quite simply, AWESOME.) ANYWAY. I could go on for another twenty minutes about these games, but I figure it's best to let other people speak... CARE TO SHARE ABOUT TALES OF GAMES??

01-16-2008, 07:25 PM	#2
Loot the Orphan Shover Has earned the achievement "Meanie" Join Date: May 2001 Location: At this point, in a DP factory. Gender: Posts: 8,958 Thanks: 132 Thanked 678 Times in 350 Posts Points: 5,464.43 Bank: 3,519,547.38 Total Points: 3,525,011.80 Donate	Tales of the Abyss is truly a deep game, although there are some parts about the plot that makes me cringe. Plus, Jade is... Jade. Tales of Symphonia is kind of cliché at times, but with characters like Zelos and Presea, it's simply amazing. Tales of Eternia is also pretty fun. The weapon system is nice, being able to choose between swords, spears, and axes for Reid, choosing which is a good option (Swords for all average, pole arms for stabby-stabby, and axes for just hacking the hell out of your enemies). Shame that all "official" portrayals of Reid have him with a sword, despite the fact that Demon Hammer is more suited for the axe. ~~I hate Tales of Destiny I hate Tales of Destiny I hate Tales of Destiny~~ I have yet to play Legendia. Eh. And I have yet to get far in Phantasia. It will have to be the SNES translation unless there is a translated PSX ISO.

01-16-2008, 07:30 PM	#3
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	I love Jade. XD And yes, you have a point... ToS can be VERY cliched. However, when it does so it adds a plot twist or a character or SOMETHING that turns that cliche into something AMAZING. ...Or at least that's what I think. It seems that when it gets too cliche'd, it adds a twist later that just makes that cliche its own. ...yeah, I'm biased. What of it. :P

01-16-2008, 08:49 PM	#4
Sir Bolt the Dragoon Defender of Chrono Cross Join Date: Feb 2000 Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts Points: 357.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 357.00 Donate	Phantasia, the original, is by far the best. Symphonia was cliched, yes, but I enjoyed it. However... I CANNOT stand Abyss. That game itself was an abyss...good god. And we're playing through Legendia now and aren't too impressed. I think Namco has been losing its touch.

01-16-2008, 09:43 PM	#5
X-3 Empty Mage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Omega Superduper Ultra Land that Sucks Gender: Posts: 12,882 Thanks: 537 Thanked 758 Times in 529 Posts Blog Entries: 10 Points: 41,965.57 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 41,965.57 Donate	I've only played Symphonia. Cliche, but badass. I've played it two times, one time I went for Kratos, the other time Zelos. My party was usually Lloyd, Genis, Raine and Zelos/Kratos.

01-17-2008, 06:54 PM	#6
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	My first time I went for Presea, then Genis, then Raine. I'm working on Sheena now. I plan to do Regal next then get Colette out of the way, and save the two best... first Kratos, then Zelos... for last. Yes, I plan to play it eight times. Why? Because I frickin' love it THAT MUCH. ...Mania mode is HARD. I'm in Triet right now, and the 3 desians there have killed me at LEAST six times by now. My computer Genis is an idiot... ><

01-18-2008, 04:52 PM	#8
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,367 Thanks: 86 Thanked 462 Times in 279 Posts Points: 38,290.53 Bank: 90,706.32 Total Points: 128,996.85 Donate	Do all of these games come with co-op? I like playing games like this with a friend and it's really something me and SilverWind could get into.

01-18-2008, 07:11 PM	#9
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 7,894 Thanks: 47 Thanked 146 Times in 86 Posts Points: 116,581.22 Bank: 13,652.08 Total Points: 130,233.30 Donate	Yes, some of them have co-op. Abyss has co-op but only with two-players. (I'm sure that the rest of the ones on PS2/whatever have two-player co-op) ...BUT, Symphonia has four-player Co-Op. IMO that was a really nice feature for those of you who have 3 players willing to play. four players can score soem pretty nice combos with Lloyd and Regal + 2 others. (Dunno we usually had Genis and Raine be the other 2.)

01-18-2008, 09:12 PM	#10
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	^ I once fought Abyssion with me as Raine, a ten-year-old as Lloyd, and a seven-year-old as Genis. Our computer was Sheena. ... ToS is a great game... it's really fun single, but I have to say that playing with a group full of people at once is AWESOMELY FANTASTICALLY UBERNESS FUN. It's INSANITY... with everyone shouting out battle cries and trying not to cuss in front of the children. XD ... wait. Abyss has two-player?? SRSLY??!! That is awesome. I need to go find my sister now... ...yes, one reason I really liked the whole Tear/Luke scenario was the situation was REVERSED. No damsel in distress... she's a kickass soldier, while Luke is the ignorant whiny brat. (Well, the ignorance isn't his fault... but still.) Oh, and not to mention that Spoiler Below THIS HAPPENS AT THE GAME'S VERY END SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T READ Tear actually ADMITS that she loves Luke. That's really rare in games, and I really like it for some reasons. Obviously her feelings must be really strong for a tough woman like herself to admit that. ...Colette can be EXTREMELY annoying and defenseless at times, but you do have to admit that she's strong. She can be obnoxious, but she also can be adorable-sometimes-and also quite strong internally. (The same cannot be said about her exterior without Angel techniques. ZOMG LETS THROW OUR FRISBEE AT THE ENEMY AND SEE IF THEY DIE!!!1!111)

01-18-2008, 09:21 PM	#11
Chunky Kong12345 my avatar's not different at all is it Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: some kind of froody spaceship Gender: Posts: 19,790 Thanks: 105 Thanked 608 Times in 400 Posts Points: 17,317.81 Bank: 25,342,450.78 Total Points: 25,359,768.59 Donate	STARDUST CROSS

01-19-2008, 12:22 AM	#12
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	Oh, and also, the Mystic Artes were nice in Abyss. For Tales of Symphonia, the only characters with special attacks were Genis and Lloyd, and you had to do a crapload of stuff to get them. The biggest reason I'm so bent over Symphonia is, well, nostalgia, and as I've already mentioned, the eight different endings. I can't freaking WAIT to do Zelos's ending... it's amazing that I've played this game thrice and counting, but he's still a complete mystery to me. HOW AWESOME.... there are STILL spoilers in this game for me!!

01-19-2008, 02:43 PM	#13
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,146 Thanks: 892 Thanked 623 Times in 414 Posts Points: 286,146.15 Bank: 5,075,505.10 Total Points: 5,361,651.25 Donate	I have yet to play these, and I've only heard good things about them. I don't want to play ToS. Which one is the best? -CSM

01-19-2008, 03:58 PM	#14
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	Why don't you want to play ToS? Well, if you don't want to play that one... ( ) play Abyss. Well, I've heard great things about Phantasia, too.... just haven't played it meself. But seriously, don't play Legendia. It's tedious, obnoxious as hell, and just GAAH. So, since you don't want to play ToS, I suggest Abyss, and I'm sure others will give you their own opinions.

01-19-2008, 04:09 PM	#15
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,146 Thanks: 892 Thanked 623 Times in 414 Posts Points: 286,146.15 Bank: 5,075,505.10 Total Points: 5,361,651.25 Donate	Are they all for the Cube? -CSM

01-19-2008, 04:11 PM	#16
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	ToS is the only one for the Cube. God-awful Legendia is for PS2, and kickass Abyss is also for PS2.

01-19-2008, 06:54 PM	#18
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,146 Thanks: 892 Thanked 623 Times in 414 Posts Points: 286,146.15 Bank: 5,075,505.10 Total Points: 5,361,651.25 Donate	I can't play those then because the PS2 won't open. -CSM

01-19-2008, 06:56 PM	#19
Loot the Orphan Shover Has earned the achievement "Meanie" Join Date: May 2001 Location: At this point, in a DP factory. Gender: Posts: 8,958 Thanks: 132 Thanked 678 Times in 350 Posts Points: 5,464.43 Bank: 3,519,547.38 Total Points: 3,525,011.80 Donate	'Yup, Nibilim now has many Mystic Artes at her disposal. As well, not only do all of the characters now have second Mystic Artes, Luke's Radiant Howl has Ion helping him as well as Tear having an extension of Fortune's Arc.

01-19-2008, 11:10 PM	#20
CuccoLady Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: OOH YEAH, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DA.. BABY BABY, DA DANA DA DA DANA DA DAAA Gender: Posts: 6,394 Thanks: 1,994 Thanked 657 Times in 492 Posts Points: 25,435.93 Bank: 4,357,571.77 Total Points: 4,383,007.70 Donate	My sister made it sound as though Nebilim was fairly easy. She must've done it on easy... (I didn't have the patience to get Mieu Fire 2 and get all of the weapons. I plan to do that next playthrough) And, CSM, I'm cool with your opinion and not wanting to play ToS and all... but could you at least explain why you don't want to play it? I'm nosy and obnoxious and obsessed with this game, so I want to know.