I need help in FFT. So help. - Page 2

PSYCHOKID909 · 07-06-2008, 07:06 PM

I don't recall what my exact levles are its either mid 40's or early 50s. It's been roughly half a year since i last played my FFT file as I was busy stoming on Magic emprorer Ghalion's ass in Lunar silever Star Story Complete. Hell I still need to finish Wind waker (had it for a year and ahalf and i'm lost in the final dungion) and KH2 (again had it about a year and ahalf, mostly I'm just annoyed at how overly long the final boss fight is.)

- You stupid dog!

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-06-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PSYCHOKID909

Okay I think at this point I just need to erease the file and start over. I don't have Beowlf, and aside from Ramza, cid, and Mustudio most of my heavy hitters are generic units and despite being at level 40ish I don't have any real speedster unitis. Hell I don't even have most of the jobs open.
The one complaint I have about FFT is how much you're expected to levle grind. As for ultima meh I've never been much of a completest I just want to see how the story ends Seeing how horribly uner prepaired I am though tells me that I'll just have to start new and get to levle grinding bah.

- You stupid dog!

If you don't have Beowulf, you can use an Oracle, I think. Not quite as effective, but should still work.

And yes, you have to GRIND. And you don't NEED to steal the equipment, it just happens to be your ONLY chance of getting some kick ass stuff. Though, lack of armor does make Elmdore easier to kill.

If you don't want Ultima, then just focus all units on Elmdore, have Agrias and Orlandu just their sword attacks, use someone to heal, and you may just be able to pull through - you ONLY need to kill Elmdore...though, once you do that, you have to fight the Lucavi, but if you just keep hammering away with holy sword attacks and long range weapons, equip the good armor to fight against vampirism and other status effects, and have and Oracle/Time mage to ensure you attack quicker than he does, you can do it. I didn't steal or learn Ultima my first time through the game.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-07-2008, 06:17 PM

Well, I thankfully have a save file just a single match before the Wiegraf fight so I can grind Ramza up. Geez, if I didn't have a second save file for such an occasion, I'd have to start over! I can't believe this, can't they game test this crap? I am actually Lv. 26 I think but not anything I do hits him, it either misses, is blocked or some crap...

Ultima huh? I recall that attack from some other FFs. What class learns it?

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 06:25 PM

^Only Ramza (and Luso, for the PSP) can learn Ultima, and they must both be in their original classes (so, Squire and Game Hunter).

And unfortunately, yeah, one of Tactics drawbacks is that it's much more battle-heavy; you NEED to level up substantially to beat Weigraf and other such enemies. Having a monk's preemptive support command is useful for that battle, but mostly if you use Ramza's yell ability to increase your speed, and then increase his strength, you should be able to land your hits on Weigraf.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-07-2008, 06:37 PM

Good info...Luso wasn't in the original huh? It was a neat cut scene he was in.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 06:47 PM

^Luso is actually from Tactics: Advanced. Like Balthier, he was added to the new version of the game (the old obviously could not have either character as their games were not yet created...)

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-07-2008, 06:50 PM

Haha, I guess not. He's cool though.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 06:53 PM

I LOVE Luso and Balthier... though, I'm depressed my PSP is still broken. I need to get on that...

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-07-2008, 07:50 PM

I got a broken PSP too, which with I surfs da nets.

Hm, Cloud is in this FFT too. Dunno if its THE cloud yet but...damn I wish Crono was in this game!

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 08:09 PM

^Yes, it's THE Cloud, the one from FF7. Unfortunately, if you want to use him at all, better get used to GRINDING... it takes ages to get him up to speed with everyone else.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-07-2008, 08:14 PM

Ha, I see grinding is a big part of this game...well, its a fun ass game in which to grind. Also, multiplayer rules.

Chunky Kong12345 · 07-07-2008, 08:14 PM

Luso's in A2, not Advance.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 08:22 PM

^Oops. My bad.

Chunky Kong12345 · 07-07-2008, 08:25 PM

Honestly, ZG.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 08:27 PM

Well, excuuuuuuse me, Chunky.

PSYCHOKID909 · 07-07-2008, 09:16 PM

I just started over today. i've yet to get to grinding but seeing how dorter slums is the next plot relivent fight I better get started, the stupid mages there always piss me off. Hmm someone refresh my memory what levels of thief and monk are needed to unlock lancer?

- You stupid dog!

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-07-2008, 09:39 PM

^I am not sure, but to be safe you probably need at least 4 for both... I think you can actually look using the select/analog button what you need to unlock lancers, but that might just be for the PSP version...

***Ace Mercury*** · 07-07-2008, 09:57 PM

Ah, FFT. I remember knights with a shield and mantle as being the only real threat; every attack has, like, a twenty percent chance of hitting. =\

In the end, though, calculators totally rocked the battlefield.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 07-09-2008, 06:40 PM

Hey...what's a good level to be at to securly beat the crap outta Wiegraf? I don't wanna save until I am sure I can win.

PSYCHOKID909 · 07-09-2008, 08:21 PM

That really just depends on that stargy you use to fight him. I always used the chemist plan that I found on gamefaqs it served me well and I was able to beat him in the mid 20's to low 30's range. Before I desided to just give up and star again I had about three file. I think I was near middle of chapter four, not quite sure about that though.

- You stupid dog!

07-06-2008, 07:06 PM	#21
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,477 Thanks: 91 Thanked 46 Times in 39 Posts Points: 6,950.48 Bank: 6,786.13 Total Points: 13,736.61 Donate	I don't recall what my exact levles are its either mid 40's or early 50s. It's been roughly half a year since i last played my FFT file as I was busy stoming on Magic emprorer Ghalion's ass in Lunar silever Star Story Complete. Hell I still need to finish Wind waker (had it for a year and ahalf and i'm lost in the final dungion) and KH2 (again had it about a year and ahalf, mostly I'm just annoyed at how overly long the final boss fight is.) - You stupid dog!

07-07-2008, 06:17 PM	#23
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,016 Thanks: 75 Thanked 81 Times in 68 Posts Points: 1,582.22 Bank: 38,886.97 Total Points: 40,469.19 Donate	Well, I thankfully have a save file just a single match before the Wiegraf fight so I can grind Ramza up. Geez, if I didn't have a second save file for such an occasion, I'd have to start over! I can't believe this, can't they game test this crap? I am actually Lv. 26 I think but not anything I do hits him, it either misses, is blocked or some crap... Ultima huh? I recall that attack from some other FFs. What class learns it?

07-07-2008, 06:25 PM	#24
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	^Only Ramza (and Luso, for the PSP) can learn Ultima, and they must both be in their original classes (so, Squire and Game Hunter). And unfortunately, yeah, one of Tactics drawbacks is that it's much more battle-heavy; you NEED to level up substantially to beat Weigraf and other such enemies. Having a monk's preemptive support command is useful for that battle, but mostly if you use Ramza's yell ability to increase your speed, and then increase his strength, you should be able to land your hits on Weigraf.

07-07-2008, 06:37 PM	#25
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,016 Thanks: 75 Thanked 81 Times in 68 Posts Points: 1,582.22 Bank: 38,886.97 Total Points: 40,469.19 Donate	Good info...Luso wasn't in the original huh? It was a neat cut scene he was in.

07-07-2008, 06:47 PM	#26
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	^Luso is actually from Tactics: Advanced. Like Balthier, he was added to the new version of the game (the old obviously could not have either character as their games were not yet created...)

07-07-2008, 06:50 PM	#27
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,016 Thanks: 75 Thanked 81 Times in 68 Posts Points: 1,582.22 Bank: 38,886.97 Total Points: 40,469.19 Donate	Haha, I guess not. He's cool though.

07-07-2008, 06:53 PM	#28
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	I LOVE Luso and Balthier... though, I'm depressed my PSP is still broken. I need to get on that...

07-07-2008, 07:50 PM	#29
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,016 Thanks: 75 Thanked 81 Times in 68 Posts Points: 1,582.22 Bank: 38,886.97 Total Points: 40,469.19 Donate	I got a broken PSP too, which with I surfs da nets. Hm, Cloud is in this FFT too. Dunno if its THE cloud yet but...damn I wish Crono was in this game!

07-07-2008, 08:09 PM	#30
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	^Yes, it's THE Cloud, the one from FF7. Unfortunately, if you want to use him at all, better get used to GRINDING... it takes ages to get him up to speed with everyone else.

07-07-2008, 08:14 PM	#31
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,016 Thanks: 75 Thanked 81 Times in 68 Posts Points: 1,582.22 Bank: 38,886.97 Total Points: 40,469.19 Donate	Ha, I see grinding is a big part of this game...well, its a fun ass game in which to grind. Also, multiplayer rules.

07-07-2008, 08:14 PM	#32
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 463.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,406.46 Donate	Luso's in A2, not Advance.

07-07-2008, 08:22 PM	#33
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	^Oops. My bad.

07-07-2008, 08:25 PM	#34
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 463.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,406.46 Donate	Honestly, ZG.

07-07-2008, 08:27 PM	#35
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	Well, excuuuuuuse me, Chunky.

07-07-2008, 09:16 PM	#36
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,477 Thanks: 91 Thanked 46 Times in 39 Posts Points: 6,950.48 Bank: 6,786.13 Total Points: 13,736.61 Donate	I just started over today. i've yet to get to grinding but seeing how dorter slums is the next plot relivent fight I better get started, the stupid mages there always piss me off. Hmm someone refresh my memory what levels of thief and monk are needed to unlock lancer? - You stupid dog!

07-07-2008, 09:39 PM	#37
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,850.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,417.27 Donate	^I am not sure, but to be safe you probably need at least 4 for both... I think you can actually look using the select/analog button what you need to unlock lancers, but that might just be for the PSP version...

07-07-2008, 09:57 PM	#38
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 19,173 Thanks: 379 Thanked 1,657 Times in 837 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 115,282.71 Bank: 31,567,564.03 Total Points: 31,682,846.74 Donate	Ah, FFT. I remember knights with a shield and mantle as being the only real threat; every attack has, like, a twenty percent chance of hitting. =\ In the end, though, calculators totally rocked the battlefield.

07-09-2008, 06:40 PM	#39
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 9,016 Thanks: 75 Thanked 81 Times in 68 Posts Points: 1,582.22 Bank: 38,886.97 Total Points: 40,469.19 Donate	Hey...what's a good level to be at to securly beat the crap outta Wiegraf? I don't wanna save until I am sure I can win.

07-09-2008, 08:21 PM	#40
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,477 Thanks: 91 Thanked 46 Times in 39 Posts Points: 6,950.48 Bank: 6,786.13 Total Points: 13,736.61 Donate	That really just depends on that stargy you use to fight him. I always used the chemist plan that I found on gamefaqs it served me well and I was able to beat him in the mid 20's to low 30's range. Before I desided to just give up and star again I had about three file. I think I was near middle of chapter four, not quite sure about that though. - You stupid dog!