FF7: Before Crisis - Page 2

Sim Kid · 05-14-2004, 08:56 PM

Back on topic people.

Erdawn Il Deus · 05-15-2004, 01:33 AM

What was it about again?

Oh yeah. The new game.

I'm debating whether I should preserve my own opinion's sanctifying of ff7 as a truly great game by not so much as touching a game sequel which would proably ruin it, and playing the sequel.

Curse me weakness.

Rattan · 05-15-2004, 10:14 AM

Yeah...cell phone games? Whats the ****ing point?

Sim Kid · 05-15-2004, 12:21 PM

Dunno how you can make an RPG on a cell phone, but Square-Enix found a way to Continue FF7 with Advent Children, and if they can do that, then they can probably find a way to make a Cell Phone RPG.

darkmagus46 · 05-15-2004, 01:26 PM

Well, I don't expect FFVII: AC or BC: FFVII to be very good. But I'll be seeing the movie anyways (I'm not gonna bother with the game.)

Rattan · 05-15-2004, 03:19 PM

The best they coulda done was sold it with FF12 and only tack on like...$5 extra or something.

NES Avenger · 05-16-2004, 09:50 PM

FF7 is crap. I've played it twice through and I cannot even begin to see why people prefer it over FF6. FF7 is pretty much the harbinger of Sqaure's games going to crap.

Bodacious · 05-17-2004, 02:35 AM

Why the hell didn't they just do this game for game boy advance?!

Rattan · 05-17-2004, 06:29 AM

Because the Square portion had an attack of the dumbass. Remember FFX-2?

Rattan · 05-17-2004, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NES Avenger:
FF7 is crap. I've played it twice through and I cannot even begin to see why people prefer it over FF6. FF7 is pretty much the harbinger of Sqaure's games going to crap.

Nope. that would be FFX. It's sequal does it's best to try and make it seem better. Thats what I think was the reason it was created. They knew people wouldn't like it as much. So they created a fat friend to make it look better by comparison.

Erdawn Il Deus · 05-17-2004, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Keymaster:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by NES Avenger:
FF7 is crap. I've played it twice through and I cannot even begin to see why people prefer it over FF6. FF7 is pretty much the harbinger of Sqaure's games going to crap.

Nope. that would be FFX. It's sequal does it's best to try and make it seem better. Thats what I think was the reason it was created. They knew people wouldn't like it as much. So they created a fat friend to make it look better by comparison. </font>[/quote]*kicks Nes Avenger in the gonads and watches him [i]bleed[í]*

FFX wasn't that bad, really. I enjoyed it. Wasn't the greatest but, eh.

Sim Kid · 05-17-2004, 10:46 PM

NES Avenger: Final Fantasy 7 wasn't THAT bad.

Rattan: *Gives you Peach rings and a Vibrosword*

Nekoscat · 05-18-2004, 06:45 AM

Ill post what i said before about FFVII

"Im just looking around and Im thinking everyone is saying Chrono Cross sucks, and so doesn't Final Fantasy VII, I dont know if its me.. but I just got the thought that there is extreame biased against these two games, Im sure that all of you enjoyed playing it when you played it (when you were not thining that it was a rip off, or it was stupid because Luca died..)"
Let me add...
There is no reason to say this game sucks and basicly flame people through little "fact arguments", and call people fanboys. I'm only posting my opinion- and i know none of you care, but anyways, Im a Final Fantasy VII "fanboy" to the ost hardcore extreames, and if you dont like it then go off doing something I care about.

I've been in the market for a cell phone for a long time now, and now that they are planning this game.. im probably going to buy that phone that it goes with so that i will be able to enjoy the prequal to the best Final Fantasy aside from FFXI ^_^ (they're getting to be even these days)

Neko^^

Tonberry2k · 05-18-2004, 09:13 AM

FF7 is where Square "Jumped the Shark". [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sim Kid · 05-18-2004, 09:50 PM

fyi, i wasn't saying the game sucks. I enjoyed playing it, it was fun, and it really has its moments (Primarily the Escape-Shinra on a motorcycle and protect everyone else's car mini-game. Pure ownage).

Bodacious · 06-07-2004, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neko:
Ill post what i said before about FFVII

"Im just looking around and Im thinking everyone is saying Chrono Cross sucks, and so doesn't Final Fantasy VII, I dont know if its me.. but I just got the thought that there is extreame biased against these two games, Im sure that all of you enjoyed playing it when you played it (when you were not thining that it was a rip off, or it was stupid because Luca died..)"
Let me add...
There is no reason to say this game sucks and basicly flame people through little "fact arguments", and call people fanboys. I'm only posting my opinion- and i know none of you care, but anyways, Im a Final Fantasy VII "fanboy" to the ost hardcore extreames, and if you dont like it then go off doing something I care about.

I've been in the market for a cell phone for a long time now, and now that they are planning this game.. im probably going to buy that phone that it goes with so that i will be able to enjoy the prequal to the best Final Fantasy aside from FFXI ^_^ (they're getting to be even these days)

Neko^^

Woah woah woah, hold it right there. FF7 doesn't suck by any means, it's a great game, but the best?! Have you even played any of the Super Nintendo games? As far as Chrono Cross goes, I did think it sucked, just for the fact that it was the sequal to what I consider to be the best game EVER made and it didn't really live up to it. I'll admit I haven't played through all of Chrono Cross and I would like to at least once.

DELICIOUS POISON · 06-09-2004, 09:33 AM

Chrono Cross raped the Chrono Trigger series of all that was good. Fighting system, characters, and storyline. As far as FF7 goes, I'll just say this.. Cloud wears hammer pants.

Katyrna · 06-09-2004, 02:36 PM

FFVII was a very good game. It was not the greatest, because there can not BE a greatest. It's all a state of mind. Making a game on cellphones--NOT the wave of the future. If you want a handheld game, go buy yourself a handheld gaming system. I see cellphone games as a fad that may last for a while, but in the long run are doubted to hold their own. Now, I CAN envision some sort of gaming system that doubles as a phone sometime in the future, but not now. That's my take. It seems as though they're trying to milk that game for all its worth--and although I'm looking forward to AC, I'm concerned with what it's going to turn out like. It might end up being just like BC and is just trying to suck all of us dry.

OFF-TOPIC BUT STILL SQUARE RELATED--Okay, I'm going to first say something that will utterly confuse some people. I really did enjoy playing Chrono Cross. (???) I liked it, plain and simple. Now, WHY???

That'd be because I played Chrono Cross through before I played Chrono Trigger.

I know as a sequel, CC ticked off a lot of people. In essence of gameplay, the creators screwed with the entire system. Yes, I agree. They did manage to work in parts of the storyline to CT, though--Now, don't get mad at me, but I'm still currrently working on CT. (Right now, I'm at the Mountain of Woe.) I don't know how well they integrated it though.

A lot of people say that CC, as a standalone, would have been a good game. See, I think it was a good game but it did NOT fulfill the expectations of those that played CT. They were expecting something entirely different. But, if you were like me, you couldn't be disappointed for the same points as CT veterans. There's a difference between fulfilling expectations and being a good game--that is what I personally believe. And if I'd played CT first? I'd probably feel the same as a majority of you here.

For once, this is an instance where it might have been better to have played the sequel first. Things might be clearer about the storyline if you'd played CT first... But you really aren't thrown THAT off course if you hadn't.--END OFF-TOPICNESS

And FFX? It struck out with some, scored with others. FFX-2 on the other hand--I can't say they made it to get better support for FFX. I'm sorry, I just CAN'T. FFX-2 was just an attempt by Square to attract a new audience. Attempt, anyway--I wonder if it actually attracted or repelled more people...?

Erdawn Il Deus · 06-09-2004, 11:08 PM

^I think it just disgusted alot of people. Myself included. They'd better not walk down that bridge again...

05-14-2004, 08:56 PM	#21
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,931 Thanks: 17 Thanked 72 Times in 37 Posts Points: 42,268.24 Bank: 597.55 Total Points: 42,865.79 Donate	Back on topic people.

05-15-2004, 01:33 AM	#22
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 2,990 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts Points: 24,317.11 Bank: 853.44 Total Points: 25,170.55 Donate	What was it about again? Oh yeah. The new game. I'm debating whether I should preserve my own opinion's sanctifying of ff7 as a truly great game by not so much as touching a game sequel which would proably ruin it, and playing the sequel. Curse me weakness.

05-15-2004, 10:14 AM	#23
Rattan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The current whereabouts of my being is here. Posts: 11,034 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Points: 13,248.15 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 13,748.15 Donate	Yeah...cell phone games? Whats the ****ing point?

05-15-2004, 12:21 PM	#24
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,931 Thanks: 17 Thanked 72 Times in 37 Posts Points: 42,268.24 Bank: 597.55 Total Points: 42,865.79 Donate	Dunno how you can make an RPG on a cell phone, but Square-Enix found a way to Continue FF7 with Advent Children, and if they can do that, then they can probably find a way to make a Cell Phone RPG.

05-15-2004, 01:26 PM	#25
darkmagus46 Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Not where you are. Posts: 902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 602.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,102.00 Donate	Well, I don't expect FFVII: AC or BC: FFVII to be very good. But I'll be seeing the movie anyways (I'm not gonna bother with the game.)

05-15-2004, 03:19 PM	#26
Rattan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The current whereabouts of my being is here. Posts: 11,034 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Points: 13,248.15 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 13,748.15 Donate	The best they coulda done was sold it with FF12 and only tack on like...$5 extra or something.

05-16-2004, 09:50 PM	#27
NES Avenger (Enter some pun with the word "Band") Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 527.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,027.00 Donate	FF7 is crap. I've played it twice through and I cannot even begin to see why people prefer it over FF6. FF7 is pretty much the harbinger of Sqaure's games going to crap.

05-17-2004, 02:35 AM	#28
Bodacious Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Up on yo mama! Posts: 497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,561.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 2,061.00 Donate	Why the hell didn't they just do this game for game boy advance?!

05-17-2004, 06:29 AM	#29
Rattan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The current whereabouts of my being is here. Posts: 11,034 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Points: 13,248.15 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 13,748.15 Donate	Because the Square portion had an attack of the dumbass. Remember FFX-2?

05-17-2004, 10:46 PM	#32
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,931 Thanks: 17 Thanked 72 Times in 37 Posts Points: 42,268.24 Bank: 597.55 Total Points: 42,865.79 Donate	NES Avenger: Final Fantasy 7 wasn't THAT bad. Rattan: Gives you Peach rings and a Vibrosword

05-18-2004, 06:45 AM	#33
Nekoscat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: http://www.theafterlifels.com/ Gender: Posts: 2,690 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 4,226.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,726.00 Donate	Ill post what i said before about FFVII "Im just looking around and Im thinking everyone is saying Chrono Cross sucks, and so doesn't Final Fantasy VII, I dont know if its me.. but I just got the thought that there is extreame biased against these two games, Im sure that all of you enjoyed playing it when you played it (when you were not thining that it was a rip off, or it was stupid because Luca died..)" Let me add... There is no reason to say this game sucks and basicly flame people through little "fact arguments", and call people fanboys. I'm only posting my opinion- and i know none of you care, but anyways, Im a Final Fantasy VII "fanboy" to the ost hardcore extreames, and if you dont like it then go off doing something I care about. I've been in the market for a cell phone for a long time now, and now that they are planning this game.. im probably going to buy that phone that it goes with so that i will be able to enjoy the prequal to the best Final Fantasy aside from FFXI ^_^ (they're getting to be even these days) Neko^^

05-18-2004, 09:13 AM	#34
Tonberry2k Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Pensacola, FL alternatively, The Spriters' Resource Gender: Posts: 5,227 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Points: 19,382.36 Bank: 673.00 Total Points: 20,055.36 Donate	FF7 is where Square "Jumped the Shark". [img]tongue.gif[/img]

05-18-2004, 09:50 PM	#35
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 6,931 Thanks: 17 Thanked 72 Times in 37 Posts Points: 42,268.24 Bank: 597.55 Total Points: 42,865.79 Donate	fyi, i wasn't saying the game sucks. I enjoyed playing it, it was fun, and it really has its moments (Primarily the Escape-Shinra on a motorcycle and protect everyone else's car mini-game. Pure ownage).

06-09-2004, 09:33 AM	#37
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,940 Thanks: 580 Thanked 1,786 Times in 879 Posts Points: 18,270.94 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,775.49 Donate	Chrono Cross raped the Chrono Trigger series of all that was good. Fighting system, characters, and storyline. As far as FF7 goes, I'll just say this.. Cloud wears hammer pants.

06-09-2004, 02:36 PM	#38
Katyrna Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hiding in the band locker from the man with an air bazooka... Gender: Posts: 243 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Points: 3,666.39 Bank: 592.15 Total Points: 4,258.54 Donate	FFVII was a very good game. It was not the greatest, because there can not BE a greatest. It's all a state of mind. Making a game on cellphones--NOT the wave of the future. If you want a handheld game, go buy yourself a handheld gaming system. I see cellphone games as a fad that may last for a while, but in the long run are doubted to hold their own. Now, I CAN envision some sort of gaming system that doubles as a phone sometime in the future, but not now. That's my take. It seems as though they're trying to milk that game for all its worth--and although I'm looking forward to AC, I'm concerned with what it's going to turn out like. It might end up being just like BC and is just trying to suck all of us dry. OFF-TOPIC BUT STILL SQUARE RELATED--Okay, I'm going to first say something that will utterly confuse some people. I really did enjoy playing Chrono Cross. (???) I liked it, plain and simple. Now, WHY??? That'd be because I played Chrono Cross through before I played Chrono Trigger. I know as a sequel, CC ticked off a lot of people. In essence of gameplay, the creators screwed with the entire system. Yes, I agree. They did manage to work in parts of the storyline to CT, though--Now, don't get mad at me, but I'm still currrently working on CT. (Right now, I'm at the Mountain of Woe.) I don't know how well they integrated it though. A lot of people say that CC, as a standalone, would have been a good game. See, I think it was a good game but it did NOT fulfill the expectations of those that played CT. They were expecting something entirely different. But, if you were like me, you couldn't be disappointed for the same points as CT veterans. There's a difference between fulfilling expectations and being a good game--that is what I personally believe. And if I'd played CT first? I'd probably feel the same as a majority of you here. For once, this is an instance where it might have been better to have played the sequel first. Things might be clearer about the storyline if you'd played CT first... But you really aren't thrown THAT off course if you hadn't.--END OFF-TOPICNESS And FFX? It struck out with some, scored with others. FFX-2 on the other hand--I can't say they made it to get better support for FFX. I'm sorry, I just CAN'T. FFX-2 was just an attempt by Square to attract a new audience. Attempt, anyway--I wonder if it actually attracted or repelled more people...?

06-09-2004, 11:08 PM	#39
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 2,990 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts Points: 24,317.11 Bank: 853.44 Total Points: 25,170.55 Donate	^I think it just disgusted alot of people. Myself included. They'd better not walk down that bridge again...