Soulcalibur 4

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 05-27-2008, 08:32 AM

Why is Yoda a playable character in SC4?! Why not Darth Maul or Obi Won? Yoda just does not fit...Actually, Star Wars kinda came out of left field altogether. I recall reading Dante from Devil May Cry would be in it. Obviously, that fell through...

**Booyakasha** · 05-27-2008, 08:38 AM

To test the faith of believers before Armageddon.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 05-27-2008, 09:08 AM

Wow, quite a grand reason...

Swordmaster Link · 05-27-2008, 12:46 PM

I believe Yoda will be an unlockable character in the 360 version and Darth Vader is unlockable in the PS3 version.

1-up salesman · 05-27-2008, 04:03 PM

No, the magazine I was reading said that they would both be available at the beginning of the game.

Swordmaster Link · 05-27-2008, 04:20 PM

*shrug* Oh, I just assumed they would be secret characters.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 05-27-2008, 06:03 PM

Are they the only Guest characters in this game? SC2 was on 3 systems, sure, but had 3 characters. It wouldn't kill them to add Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia. SC3 had no special characters, they should make it up to us.

**Booyakasha** · 05-27-2008, 06:24 PM

Special characters are lame.

Swordmaster Link · 05-27-2008, 08:25 PM

^
^ Right, but there was one per version. (The Gamecube version only had Link, etc.) It's the same concept: one is one the PS3 version, and another is on the 360 version.

X-3 · 05-27-2008, 09:50 PM

Lloyd is in Legends, anyway. And I agree: special characters are pretty lame. Though, I admit I used only Link for the most part when I rented SC2 for my GCN. Man, I loved throwing guys off of edges.

Also, I guess this is relevant:

**Booyakasha** · 05-27-2008, 10:35 PM

You know what'd be even better than throwing unrelated characters from sh*tty outside sources into the next SC for no damn reason at all?

Not doing that.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 05-28-2008, 01:13 AM

Link was great in SC2! And WTF do you guys mean "special characters suck"?! That's like not having them in Smash Bros.!

**Booyakasha** · 05-28-2008, 01:35 AM

What's there not to understand? Special characters are f*cking lame.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 05-28-2008, 02:12 AM

Er, okay. What about cameos, hate them too? -_-

Vgfian/Guildmaster · 05-28-2008, 07:17 AM

I thought that yoda and darth vader died .
Anyway I've only played the ps2 version of Sc2 mainly because I was obsessed with tekken at the time.I think that heihachi was a decent choice,but when he started speaking English they kinda ruined it.
I would like to see how Link's and Spawn's stories were incorperated into the game.
As far as SC4 is concerned I think it'll be an interesting mix of worlds.
I'd also like to see how Darth Vader and Yoda are tied in with the story.
Too bad I don't have any next gen systems yet.

**Booyakasha** · 05-28-2008, 10:53 AM

I think adding characters from a totally unrelated source to an already-established franchise for no reason is a cop-out. I'm sure there's one or two fanfiction writers who would have squealed with glee if George Lucas had thrown Gundams and Predators and sh*t into the mix when he was crapping out the Special Editions a few years back--that doesn't mean they have any place in 'Star Wars'.

1-up salesman · 05-28-2008, 11:26 PM

[quote=Guildmaster;966246]I thought that yoda and darth vader died .
so? only in the movies. it's not like there's an exact timeline in soul calibur.
And it's not like you have to count starwars' vader and yoda fighting soul calibur in the star wars saga. there are like only a million novels and comics with darth vader.

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Originally Posted by Booyakasha

What's there not to understand? Special characters are lame.

Then don't call yourself a gamer. and I'm with 'I really hate pokemon', that's like not having anyone to play as in smash bros. guest character are awesome!

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-29-2008, 01:12 AM

There is a fundamental difference between Smash Bros/Marvel vs. Capcom/etc. & Soul Calibur/Mortal Kombat/etc.: The former group is based entirely on the concept of having unrelated characters fight each other, while the latter is based entirely on the concept of having a private core of plot-related characters fight each other.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Booyakasha** · 05-29-2008, 05:33 AM

Citing 'Smash Bros' in this instance is stupid. 'Smash Bros' doesn't have an established continuity and storyline unto itself; it's all well and good to add whatever the hell characters you want when the premise of your game is 'mascot characters curb-stomp each other for fun'. As of right now, the premise of SC4 seems to be 'characters from around the world continue to find their destinies shaped by the demon sword Souledge and its bane, Soulcalibur. Plus two chumps from 'Star Wars'.'

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Originally Posted by 1-up salesman

Then don't call yourself a gamer.

Die screaming.

Magnanimous · 05-29-2008, 06:36 AM

^ Spoken like a true noble warrior.

05-27-2008, 08:32 AM	#1
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05-27-2008, 08:38 AM	#2
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05-27-2008, 09:08 AM	#3
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05-27-2008, 06:03 PM	#7
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05-27-2008, 06:24 PM	#8
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05-27-2008, 12:46 PM	#4
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05-27-2008, 04:03 PM	#5
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05-27-2008, 04:20 PM	#6
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05-27-2008, 08:25 PM	#9
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05-27-2008, 09:50 PM	#10
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05-27-2008, 10:35 PM	#11
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05-28-2008, 01:13 AM	#12
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05-28-2008, 01:35 AM	#13
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05-28-2008, 02:12 AM	#14
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05-28-2008, 07:17 AM	#15
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05-28-2008, 10:53 AM	#16
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05-29-2008, 01:12 AM	#18
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