How/Why Do Computers Freeze?

imported_Andrew · 10-15-2004, 02:07 AM

Every computer I own, after a year or two of use inherits an annoying freezing problem. Without any pattern or anything, it decides to freeze in the middle of an important CS match or conversation. It only freezes when I am playing a game or on AIM or the internet, it never freezes if I'm just in Word or anything.

I'd never thought much of it, until recently it's been extremely ticking me off... so why do they freeze and how do I fix it (PC antifreeze)? And why does it seem like I'm the only one who's PC does it?

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 10-15-2004, 03:33 AM

Mine freezes too. Alot. Mainly because I think it over heats, which further supports I'm not meant to live here in Hawaii.

But anyways, it might be spyware and/or adware. Ever since I've reconnected to the Internet, my computer had been freezing up ALOT and most of the programs on my computer refused to even work. So, the Internet is no longer a safe place. Unless, of course, you have spent money on $300 programs that WILL fix problems and block against Adware/Spyware/Viruses.

imported_Andrew · 10-15-2004, 10:34 AM

I have and use spybot, adaware and spysweeper. And I remember my old PC freezing a lot, long before the days of pop up madness and such. So is there other possiblities? Thanks though.

ZIPPYDIPPY19 · 10-15-2004, 12:13 PM

Four Words:

Evil Mischievious Computer Gnome

***Ace Mercury*** · 10-15-2004, 01:57 PM

From what I know, it's probably because you have a lot of junk in your system. It freezes during games and when on the internet because those apps usually are very hardware intensive, at least compared to using Notepad or something. If you check your Task Manager, you may've so many foreign entities running away that one may decide "Hey, let's hog all of the resources so that nothing can run. That sounds like fun." Some of that may be spyware and malware, but it's just as likely that it's stuff you intended to install but is screwing up anyways.

Or, perhaps because of all the stuff that happens to a computer between harddisk formats, some files may be corrupted, missing, moved, MIA, whatever; the best cure for all of the above is to format the hard drive, backing the data files of course. You can try running some diagnostic and repair tools, installing new device drivers, but I find that too troublesome for just a 'maybe' solution.

'Course, it could be a hardware problem too. Maybe your RAM, CPU, motherboard, video card, hard drive, USB controller... heck anything physical could be the problem. I did a work term doing PC repair for Hewlett-Packard, and if a hard drive re-image didn't work, sometimes it was hell trying to pinpoint the source of the freezing. I had a dial-up modem that was killing the system somehow; took me a while to figure that one out. A common problem is the CPU overheating; just check the BIOS (or whatever fancy diagnostics you have) after your computer's been running for a while. If the CPU temperature is significantly above 50 C, you've got a problem.

But, as it sounds, since it's been running for at least a year without problem, it's likely to be just poor upkeep of your computer and it's various programs. I've been running Win XP for a while now and it rarely freezes (and if it does, it's because I did something stupid, like accidentally execute Winamp 137 times). If you're running Win 95, 98, or (the much derided) Win ME, I recall those have weird a memory pool where apps could take memory; it was really easy for apps to use memory that other apps were already using, resulting in much hilarity.

[ October 15, 2004, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Ace Mercury ]

Link2000 · 10-15-2004, 05:22 PM

It varies by the exact cause, but quite often boosting your system with more RAM will help the problem.

Parrakarry · 10-15-2004, 09:13 PM

Generally because your computer has all of its computing power being used by something "behind the scenes".

F-ZERO_X · 10-19-2004, 05:49 AM

Computers freeze to sell more, of course. Damn Microsoft!

Link2000 · 10-22-2004, 09:38 AM

^That is probably the most idiotic comment I've heard this month...

ZIPPYDIPPY19 · 10-22-2004, 09:39 PM

^ It can't even compete with my Computer Gnomes one [img]tongue.gif[/img]

F-ZERO_X · 10-23-2004, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link2000:
^That is probably the most idiotic comment I've heard this month...

Is it my comment you're talking aobut? If it is, why do you think it's idiotic?

DELICIOUS POISON · 10-25-2004, 09:41 AM

Because he hates you. Nearly as much as I hate you.

Evil Kirby · 10-26-2004, 11:26 AM

Your computer freezes because it sucks.

No, really. Mine hasn't frozen since the day I bought it last year.

F-ZERO_X · 10-26-2004, 03:28 PM

HEY! WHAT DID I DO? Why do you hate me? I don't even know you! People say that mods and amins must be respected by the other members; BUT They must respect us first! I refuse to respect a mod or an admin who treats me like garbesh! Just because they're mods or admins doesn't mean that hey have the right to insult us just because they have a higher rank than us!

DELICIOUS POISON · 10-26-2004, 03:37 PM

Well I'm afraid that's just too bad. Everyone hates you, and nothing's about to change.

Phenom · 10-26-2004, 04:37 PM

^^ If it helps...I hate you like poison too.

Link2000 · 10-26-2004, 04:50 PM

That's a least three mods against you... 5 and you'll get banned. A simple topic in the mod forum could easily do it.

Bowser314 · 10-26-2004, 04:59 PM

If that's the case, chalk me up as number 4.

REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS · 10-26-2004, 05:28 PM

^^^^^You have been pwned.

I don't like him either, But I'm not a mod. Sorry.

[ October 26, 2004, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: MELTMAN. WITH THE POWER TO.... MELT ]

Parrakarry · 10-26-2004, 10:22 PM

Moderator #000005, reporting for duty.

10-15-2004, 02:07 AM	#1
imported_Andrew Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 9,576.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 10,076.00 Donate	Every computer I own, after a year or two of use inherits an annoying freezing problem. Without any pattern or anything, it decides to freeze in the middle of an important CS match or conversation. It only freezes when I am playing a game or on AIM or the internet, it never freezes if I'm just in Word or anything. I'd never thought much of it, until recently it's been extremely ticking me off... so why do they freeze and how do I fix it (PC antifreeze)? And why does it seem like I'm the only one who's PC does it?

10-15-2004, 03:33 AM	#2
Beam Yosho the Drunkard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The oversized rock of Hawaii. Gender: Posts: 5,664 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts Points: 24,568.39 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 25,068.39 Donate	Mine freezes too. Alot. Mainly because I think it over heats, which further supports I'm not meant to live here in Hawaii. But anyways, it might be spyware and/or adware. Ever since I've reconnected to the Internet, my computer had been freezing up ALOT and most of the programs on my computer refused to even work. So, the Internet is no longer a safe place. Unless, of course, you have spent money on $300 programs that WILL fix problems and block against Adware/Spyware/Viruses.

10-15-2004, 10:34 AM	#3
imported_Andrew Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 9,576.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 10,076.00 Donate	I have and use spybot, adaware and spysweeper. And I remember my old PC freezing a lot, long before the days of pop up madness and such. So is there other possiblities? Thanks though.

10-15-2004, 12:13 PM	#4
ZIPPYDIPPY19 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,663 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 3,621.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,121.00 Donate	Four Words: Evil Mischievious Computer Gnome

10-15-2004, 01:57 PM	#5
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 19,173 Thanks: 379 Thanked 1,657 Times in 837 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 115,278.71 Bank: 31,567,564.03 Total Points: 31,682,842.74 Donate	From what I know, it's probably because you have a lot of junk in your system. It freezes during games and when on the internet because those apps usually are very hardware intensive, at least compared to using Notepad or something. If you check your Task Manager, you may've so many foreign entities running away that one may decide "Hey, let's hog all of the resources so that nothing can run. That sounds like fun." Some of that may be spyware and malware, but it's just as likely that it's stuff you intended to install but is screwing up anyways. Or, perhaps because of all the stuff that happens to a computer between harddisk formats, some files may be corrupted, missing, moved, MIA, whatever; the best cure for all of the above is to format the hard drive, backing the data files of course. You can try running some diagnostic and repair tools, installing new device drivers, but I find that too troublesome for just a 'maybe' solution. 'Course, it could be a hardware problem too. Maybe your RAM, CPU, motherboard, video card, hard drive, USB controller... heck anything physical could be the problem. I did a work term doing PC repair for Hewlett-Packard, and if a hard drive re-image didn't work, sometimes it was hell trying to pinpoint the source of the freezing. I had a dial-up modem that was killing the system somehow; took me a while to figure that one out. A common problem is the CPU overheating; just check the BIOS (or whatever fancy diagnostics you have) after your computer's been running for a while. If the CPU temperature is significantly above 50 C, you've got a problem. But, as it sounds, since it's been running for at least a year without problem, it's likely to be just poor upkeep of your computer and it's various programs. I've been running Win XP for a while now and it rarely freezes (and if it does, it's because I did something stupid, like accidentally execute Winamp 137 times). If you're running Win 95, 98, or (the much derided) Win ME, I recall those have weird a memory pool where apps could take memory; it was really easy for apps to use memory that other apps were already using, resulting in much hilarity. [ October 15, 2004, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Ace Mercury ]

10-15-2004, 05:22 PM	#6
Link2000 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 8,052 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 17,451.15 Bank: 804.22 Total Points: 18,255.37 Donate	It varies by the exact cause, but quite often boosting your system with more RAM will help the problem.

10-15-2004, 09:13 PM	#7
Parrakarry Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 10,684 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 9,809.87 Bank: 634.12 Total Points: 10,443.99 Donate	Generally because your computer has all of its computing power being used by something "behind the scenes".

10-19-2004, 05:49 AM	#8
F-ZERO_X Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nowhere Posts: 1,120 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 5,031.50 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 5,531.50 Donate	Computers freeze to sell more, of course. Damn Microsoft!

10-22-2004, 09:38 AM	#9
Link2000 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 8,052 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 17,451.15 Bank: 804.22 Total Points: 18,255.37 Donate	^That is probably the most idiotic comment I've heard this month...

10-22-2004, 09:39 PM	#10
ZIPPYDIPPY19 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,663 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 3,621.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,121.00 Donate	^ It can't even compete with my Computer Gnomes one [img]tongue.gif[/img]

10-25-2004, 09:41 AM	#12
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,940 Thanks: 580 Thanked 1,784 Times in 878 Posts Points: 18,264.94 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,769.49 Donate	Because he hates you. Nearly as much as I hate you.

10-26-2004, 11:26 AM	#13
Evil Kirby Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,252 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 866.00 Bank: 510.00 Total Points: 1,376.00 Donate	Your computer freezes because it sucks. No, really. Mine hasn't frozen since the day I bought it last year.

10-26-2004, 03:28 PM	#14
F-ZERO_X Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nowhere Posts: 1,120 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 5,031.50 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 5,531.50 Donate	HEY! WHAT DID I DO? Why do you hate me? I don't even know you! People say that mods and amins must be respected by the other members; BUT They must respect us first! I refuse to respect a mod or an admin who treats me like garbesh! Just because they're mods or admins doesn't mean that hey have the right to insult us just because they have a higher rank than us!

10-26-2004, 03:37 PM	#15
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,940 Thanks: 580 Thanked 1,784 Times in 878 Posts Points: 18,264.94 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,769.49 Donate	Well I'm afraid that's just too bad. Everyone hates you, and nothing's about to change.

10-26-2004, 04:37 PM	#16
Phenom Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Gender: Posts: 7,898 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Points: 5,715.01 Bank: 1,293.54 Total Points: 7,008.55 Donate	^^ If it helps...I hate you like poison too.

10-26-2004, 04:50 PM	#17
Link2000 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 8,052 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 17,451.15 Bank: 804.22 Total Points: 18,255.37 Donate	That's a least three mods against you... 5 and you'll get banned. A simple topic in the mod forum could easily do it.

10-26-2004, 04:59 PM	#18
Bowser314 Banned Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Abbey Road Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,224.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,724.00 Donate	If that's the case, chalk me up as number 4.

10-26-2004, 05:28 PM	#19
REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 7,008 Thanks: 391 Thanked 533 Times in 395 Posts Points: 1,591.83 Bank: 95,229.88 Total Points: 96,821.71 Donate	^^^^^You have been pwned. I don't like him either, But I'm not a mod. Sorry. [ October 26, 2004, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: MELTMAN. WITH THE POWER TO.... MELT ]

10-26-2004, 10:22 PM	#20
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