Cat Cloned in US

random member · 12-26-2004, 11:06 PM

$50k for this cat. Would you spend that much money just to have one animal? (let's just assume you have this type of money to spend)
Details.

Madness.

Lord X · 12-27-2004, 07:18 PM

Pure idiocy on the part of a buyer trying to recreate his/her dead pet. There's absolutely no guarantee that the cloned cat will act anything like its deceased predecessor. Furthermore, even if the animal did act very much like the once loved pet, it remains a distinctly different and quite unique creature. The owner merely fools himself into a state of imprudent satisfaction wherein he lives under the delusion of having restored a part of a very dead animal.

Donezdude · 12-27-2004, 07:31 PM

^Agreed. Cloning is not like xeroxing an animal. It creates a unique creature. However, I do not really like the idea of pet cloning because, as the article said, there are so many pets that need homes that cloning is unnecessary.

[sage] · 12-28-2004, 02:08 AM

It comforts her. Let her have her cat, even if it was stupid to spend $50,000.

Jonathan Resop · 12-28-2004, 02:11 PM

This is the absolutely stupidest thing I have EVER heard.

There are 50 Bazillion cats in the world.

We do NOT need to start cloning the damn things.

People who want their pet cloned should be shot.-jay

**Cravdraa** · 12-28-2004, 02:56 PM

Even if it was the same animal, think about this: As the artical stated it takes many tries to get a clone right. In otherwords, you may be getting one animal but you're also sentencing dozens of copies of your beloved pet to die gruesome deaths in the process.

Not exactly something I'd want for my pets.

Jonathan Resop · 12-28-2004, 03:47 PM

This lady doesn't seem to have enough brains to figure that out.

She probably doesn't have two neurons to rub together.-jay

Auron · 12-28-2004, 10:25 PM

I amazes me how people can be so stupid. 50K for a cat? That's ridiculus.

Link2000 · 01-02-2005, 07:51 PM

Do I think it's stupid? Yeah, I do. But it's up to her how she decides to live her life, and no one should be able to tell her what to do.

[ January 03, 2005, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: Link2000 ]

Jonathan Resop · 01-02-2005, 09:38 PM

No, you see, we SHOULD have laws in place that prevent people from doing stupid things like that. Just think about it. If we just let people start cloning whatever the hell they want just because they "can", just imagine what problems we'll have. We already have enough problems with overpopulation as it is. People like this need to be stopped.-jay

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 01-03-2005, 04:48 AM

*Hands Jay Shotgun and ammo.*
Get to work.

Link2000 · 01-03-2005, 11:07 PM

This has nothing to do with human cloning. As for the issue of cloning humans, we certainly should look down that route to clone at least organs. I'm sure you're well aware of the shortage there is.

Jonathan Resop · 01-04-2005, 11:29 AM

Who said anything about human cloning? I was talking about overpopulation in general, for all species. Don't you know how many cats there are in the world? 500 Bazillion. Give or take a few bazillion. That's a problem. We don't need rich whores in Texas who lack a brain to start cloning the things. Overpopulation is a REAL problem that will start becoming real messy real soon. The world has a limit on the number of animals that can survive healthily on it. Too many and we start having famine, food shortages, disease, ect.

Plus, after losers start cloning their cats, you know this could eventually lead to allowing people to clone loved ones who died. Which would be beyond stupid.

I'm not talking about human cloning for organs. I don't know what my stance is on that, since I havn't really thought about it. But I know I would be much more willing to allow people to clone organs to let a little boy who needs a heart live rather then cloning another stupid cat.-jay

Codiekitty · 01-04-2005, 10:37 PM

Jay, something tells me you don't like cats.

Jokes aside, Jay's right. Cats are more commonly put down in pounds than dogs because of their high population. Dogs are easier to find homes for. Cats are just too common. All our dogs came from the pound or other adoption agency, and three of our five cats got dumped in our lap by people who couldn't keep them. Then there was that heartbreak with Fuddy, all because nobody wanted him except us, but when he finally found us he had already contracted a fatal illness.

Much as I love my kitties, when Simba's time comes, I'll mourn, then get another cat. On top of giving another animal a chance for love and care, it'll save my parents $49,990.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

[ January 04, 2005, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: CodieKitty ]

Jonathan Resop · 01-05-2005, 02:36 AM

Oh, sorry. No, you misunderstood me. My anger in my posts are not directed at cats specifically. I've never had a cat, but I don't hate them or anything. I have nothing against cats at all. My anger was directed at just the action of cloning a dead pet. (A pet of a species that is completely overpopulated). I would say the same thing if the person was cloning a dog. Sorry about the confusion.-jay

Link2000 · 01-05-2005, 04:42 PM

Or maybe it's because of your love for Monty Python? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

50 clones here and there isn't going to affect the population at all. If there is an overpopulation problem, then the cats will die out. Sounds horrible, but that's the way it has to go.

12-26-2004, 11:06 PM	#1
random member Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 6,239.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 6,739.00 Donate	$50k for this cat. Would you spend that much money just to have one animal? (let's just assume you have this type of money to spend) Details. Madness.

12-27-2004, 07:18 PM	#2
Lord X Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 990 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 993.14 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,493.14 Donate	Pure idiocy on the part of a buyer trying to recreate his/her dead pet. There's absolutely no guarantee that the cloned cat will act anything like its deceased predecessor. Furthermore, even if the animal did act very much like the once loved pet, it remains a distinctly different and quite unique creature. The owner merely fools himself into a state of imprudent satisfaction wherein he lives under the delusion of having restored a part of a very dead animal.

12-27-2004, 07:31 PM	#3
Donezdude Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Starbucks across the street from the Starbucks Posts: 304 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 3,318.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 3,818.00 Donate	^Agreed. Cloning is not like xeroxing an animal. It creates a unique creature. However, I do not really like the idea of pet cloning because, as the article said, there are so many pets that need homes that cloning is unnecessary.

12-28-2004, 02:08 AM	#4
[sage] Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Florida Gender: Posts: 18,074 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Points: 35,975.80 Bank: 820.30 Total Points: 36,796.10 Donate	It comforts her. Let her have her cat, even if it was stupid to spend $50,000.

12-28-2004, 02:11 PM	#5
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 37,825.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 38,325.00 Donate	This is the absolutely stupidest thing I have EVER heard. There are 50 Bazillion cats in the world. We do NOT need to start cloning the damn things. People who want their pet cloned should be shot.-jay

12-28-2004, 02:56 PM	#6
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,953.23 Bank: 2,045,029.55 Total Points: 2,074,982.79 Donate	Even if it was the same animal, think about this: As the artical stated it takes many tries to get a clone right. In otherwords, you may be getting one animal but you're also sentencing dozens of copies of your beloved pet to die gruesome deaths in the process. Not exactly something I'd want for my pets.

12-28-2004, 03:47 PM	#7
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 37,825.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 38,325.00 Donate	This lady doesn't seem to have enough brains to figure that out. She probably doesn't have two neurons to rub together.-jay

12-28-2004, 10:25 PM	#8
Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,834 Thanks: 6 Thanked 204 Times in 131 Posts Points: 4,897.66 Bank: 526,045.47 Total Points: 530,943.13 Donate	I amazes me how people can be so stupid. 50K for a cat? That's ridiculus.

01-02-2005, 07:51 PM	#9
Link2000 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 8,052 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 17,452.15 Bank: 804.22 Total Points: 18,256.37 Donate	Do I think it's stupid? Yeah, I do. But it's up to her how she decides to live her life, and no one should be able to tell her what to do. [ January 03, 2005, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: Link2000 ]

01-02-2005, 09:38 PM	#10
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 37,825.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 38,325.00 Donate	No, you see, we SHOULD have laws in place that prevent people from doing stupid things like that. Just think about it. If we just let people start cloning whatever the hell they want just because they "can", just imagine what problems we'll have. We already have enough problems with overpopulation as it is. People like this need to be stopped.-jay

01-03-2005, 04:48 AM	#11
Beam Yosho the Drunkard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The oversized rock of Hawaii. Gender: Posts: 5,664 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts Points: 24,570.39 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 25,070.39 Donate	Hands Jay Shotgun and ammo. Get to work.

01-03-2005, 11:07 PM	#12
Link2000 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 8,052 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 17,452.15 Bank: 804.22 Total Points: 18,256.37 Donate	This has nothing to do with human cloning. As for the issue of cloning humans, we certainly should look down that route to clone at least organs. I'm sure you're well aware of the shortage there is.

01-04-2005, 11:29 AM	#13
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 37,825.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 38,325.00 Donate	Who said anything about human cloning? I was talking about overpopulation in general, for all species. Don't you know how many cats there are in the world? 500 Bazillion. Give or take a few bazillion. That's a problem. We don't need rich whores in Texas who lack a brain to start cloning the things. Overpopulation is a REAL problem that will start becoming real messy real soon. The world has a limit on the number of animals that can survive healthily on it. Too many and we start having famine, food shortages, disease, ect. Plus, after losers start cloning their cats, you know this could eventually lead to allowing people to clone loved ones who died. Which would be beyond stupid. I'm not talking about human cloning for organs. I don't know what my stance is on that, since I havn't really thought about it. But I know I would be much more willing to allow people to clone organs to let a little boy who needs a heart live rather then cloning another stupid cat.-jay

01-04-2005, 10:37 PM	#14
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,143 Thanks: 121 Thanked 174 Times in 120 Posts Points: 51,309.72 Bank: 3,021,450.74 Total Points: 3,072,760.46 Donate	Jay, something tells me you don't like cats. Jokes aside, Jay's right. Cats are more commonly put down in pounds than dogs because of their high population. Dogs are easier to find homes for. Cats are just too common. All our dogs came from the pound or other adoption agency, and three of our five cats got dumped in our lap by people who couldn't keep them. Then there was that heartbreak with Fuddy, all because nobody wanted him except us, but when he finally found us he had already contracted a fatal illness. Much as I love my kitties, when Simba's time comes, I'll mourn, then get another cat. On top of giving another animal a chance for love and care, it'll save my parents $49,990. Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there! [ January 04, 2005, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: CodieKitty ]

01-05-2005, 02:36 AM	#15
Jonathan Resop Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 37,825.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 38,325.00 Donate	Oh, sorry. No, you misunderstood me. My anger in my posts are not directed at cats specifically. I've never had a cat, but I don't hate them or anything. I have nothing against cats at all. My anger was directed at just the action of cloning a dead pet. (A pet of a species that is completely overpopulated). I would say the same thing if the person was cloning a dog. Sorry about the confusion.-jay

01-05-2005, 04:42 PM	#16
Link2000 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Gender: Posts: 8,052 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 17,452.15 Bank: 804.22 Total Points: 18,256.37 Donate	Or maybe it's because of your love for Monty Python? [img]tongue.gif[/img] 50 clones here and there isn't going to affect the population at all. If there is an overpopulation problem, then the cats will die out. Sounds horrible, but that's the way it has to go.