Mailbag Status and Responder Search - Page 2

Alph · 01-20-2007, 12:28 PM

Sorry.

**Sean P Kelly** · 01-20-2007, 06:03 PM

Never take anything I post in this forum seriously

Chunky Kong12345 · 01-20-2007, 06:55 PM

But Sean, when's the one I responded to going up, anyway?

**Perrin Aybara** · 01-20-2007, 08:44 PM

I would guess sometime after never.-jay

Chunky Kong12345 · 01-20-2007, 09:24 PM

It's already been never, so when can I expect it?

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-20-2007, 09:49 PM

When I did mine, Sean sent it to me two months before he actually put it up, so just be patient. -CSM

Chunky Kong12345 · 01-20-2007, 10:42 PM

Well, hot damn. It's been exactly two months Since I sent the email back to the day.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-20-2007, 11:23 PM

Well I have no control over it. Go bug Sean. -CSM

Chunky Kong12345 · 01-20-2007, 11:29 PM

Sean's not here.

**Sean P Kelly** · 01-21-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

But Sean, when's the one I responded to going up, anyway?

If I get the answers from Kyle, I should be able to put the mailbag up.

That brings me to another thing:

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

And make a time limit. Two weeks. Anyone who doesn't respond by then: too bad for that mailbag.-jay

Jay, you keep on saying this. However, you should realize that A) I'm a fair person B) I don't like the idea of having the cumbersome task of always removing people from my mailbag template (in which I usually only have to cut and paste the answers), just because people didn't meet the deadline.

Jay, I should also point out that I get most responces within days of sending question. The ones I usually have to wait for are Kyle, EAM (who I'm just going to probably let go), and.....you.

Chop Chop Master Onion · 01-21-2007, 02:03 PM

I don't see why it should take a month to answer a dozen questions.

**Perrin Aybara** · 01-21-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean P Kelly

Jay, you keep on saying this. However, you should realize that A) I'm a fair person B) I don't like the idea of having the cumbersome task of always removing people from my mailbag template (in which I usually only have to cut and paste the answers), just because people didn't meet the deadline.

Jay, I should also point out that I get most responces within days of sending question. The ones I usually have to wait for are Kyle, EAM (who I'm just going to probably let go), and.....you.

Hey, I don't blame you, but I'm just saying, it gets silly to even bother having a mailbag if we only put them up once every two months.

Personally, my opinion is that it's time for a change.

And giving people two weeks would be PLENTY fair.

It doesn't take more than an hour to answer them.

It can't be that hard to modify the template slightly to allow for absent mailbaggers.

If you need help, let me know. Maybe I can come up with a better idea for the mailbag layout so it's not as hard to change.

I'm just saying the current system is stupid. It needs to change. Of course, that is 100% just my opinion.

Look at a good site that does mailbags reasonably, like rpgamer.com. They get mailbags up pretty much daily.

TMK is no better than us at getting mailbags done, so this could be one area we could really shine over them.

And yes, I know that I'm usually one of the people you have to wait for. And I'm telling you that I would have no problems with you putting up a mailbag after two weeks without me.

This isn't a criticism against you, Sean. It's against the system. Personally, I think we could do better.-jay

**Sean P Kelly** · 01-21-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

Hey, I don't blame you, but I'm just saying, it gets silly to even bother having a mailbag if we only put them up once every two months.

So, you think I should just end it? Because, there hasn't been anything close to a monthy (or even regular) mailbag for over 3 years.

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

Personally, my opinion is that it's time for a change.

And giving people two weeks would be PLENTY fair.

It doesn't take more than an hour to answer them.

You of all people should know how hard it can be to find time these days.

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

It can't be that hard to modify the template slightly to allow for absent mailbaggers.

Of course it's not hard. It's inconvient and time consuming (and time is something I don't have a lot of).

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

If you need help, let me know. Maybe I can come up with a better idea for the mailbag layout so it's not as hard to change.

I'm just saying the current system is stupid. It needs to change. Of course, that is 100% just my opinion.

If it was possible for everyone to telephone the answer without enormous long-distance bills, I'd go for that.

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

Look at a good site that does mailbags reasonably, like rpgamer.com. They get mailbags up pretty much daily.

I looked and noticed it's pretty much done by one guy, as opposed to seven.

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

TMK is no better than us at getting mailbags done, so this could be one area we could really shine over them.

A) I have never really cared about competing with TMK. They are a different kind of site. B) Even though they have lagged in the last year or so, they were very good with the mailbags before then.

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

And yes, I know that I'm usually one of the people you have to wait for. And I'm telling you that I would have no problems with you putting up a mailbag after two weeks without me.

I considered it a big accomplishment when you and Kyle started answering for the mailbag, since well...you created SMBHQ. I definitely would NOT like to put up a mailbag without, at least, you two.

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Originally Posted by Perrin Aybara

This isn't a criticism against you, Sean. It's against the system. Personally, I think we could do better.-jay

The only way we can do better is fire all but a few reponders and have a more condensed mailbag.

Chop Chop Master Onion · 01-21-2007, 03:40 PM

Just give me the mailbag. I'll have the questions answered in an hour.

**Perrin Aybara** · 01-21-2007, 03:52 PM

Sorry, but I disagree with most of your points.

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So, you think I should just end it? Because, there hasn't been anything close to a monthy (or even regular) mailbag for over 3 years.

No, I didn't say that.

I said we can do it better. I think having a mailbag is great. I still think it's a lot of fun, or else I wouldn't keep doing it. But right now, it's just terrible. I'm trying to offer constructive criticism, trying to make it better. Work with me here.

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You of all people should know how hard it can be to find time these days. Of course it's not hard. It's inconvient and time consuming (and time is something I don't have a lot of).

I realize it would be more inconvenient, I'm just saying it would be better. And it can't be *that* much work. I don't believe it. The pros would outweigh the cons. If you don't have time, find someone else to do it or to help. People like CSM seem like they would love to help. And I just offered to help look at the code to find ways to make it easier.

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If it was possible for everyone to telephone the answer without enormous long-distance bills, I'd go for that.

No, but making the mailbag better should be easily possible.

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I looked and noticed it's pretty much done by one guy, as opposed to seven.

I know that. I was just using that as a example of what I think is a great mailbag which updates often.

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A) I have never really cared about competing with TMK. They are a different kind of site. B) Even though they have lagged in the last year or so, they were very good with the mailbags before then.

Again, I know, I was just using another example.

And just because we were never consistant with the mailbags in the past is no excuse for us to continue to only make them once every 2 months.

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I considered it a big accomplishment when you and Kyle started answering for the mailbag, since well...you created SMBHQ. I definitely would NOT like to put up a mailbag without, at least, you two.

Yes, but I'm telling you this: Having 12-24 mailbags a year, 6 of them answered everyone (including me and Kyle) is a LOT better then just 6 mailbags a year answered by everyone.

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The only way we can do better is fire all but a few reponders and have a more condensed mailbag.

That wouldn't help anything. We'd still be waiting months for some people (like me and Kyle).

Like I said, I'm just trying to offer criticism because I think the mailbag could (and should) be better. If you don't want to take my criticism, that's fine, since like you said, I'm not one to judge, since I hardly have time to update myself. I completely understand that you have other things to worry about in your life.-jay

Chunky Kong12345 · 01-21-2007, 08:11 PM

lol arguements

**Sean P Kelly** · 01-21-2007, 08:55 PM

I just wrote a long response, but I accidently pressed a button and erased it all.

Let me summarize by saying that, I looked in the archives and, with the current "round table" system, I have had my best year with 8 editions in 2005. I blame the slow 2006 to both the procrastination of Jay, Kyle, and EAM (EAM being the only one not to really give a reason). I am also blaming the HUGE decrease in the quality of the questions I recieved and the fact that it's REALLY HARD to find 10 good question for each edition.

Now by playing judge, I shall make a deliberation:

I hereby decree that EAM will no longer be a mailbag responder. I also declare that MetalMan be reinstated to take up the slack.

Kyle and Jay will now be declared part-time responders and will answer questions at their own pace.

As for the Mailbag responder search. It will continue as scheduled, and at least one new full-time responder will be chosen as a result.

Case dismissed.

Gage LaMay · 01-22-2007, 03:27 PM

Keep me in mind but I'm not going to be the annoying kid to always bug you and ask if I could be a responder.

You know how to contact me.

PS - Sorry to not drop the case, heh.

**Sean P Kelly** · 01-24-2007, 11:09 PM

Quick update: I'm going to use that two week deadline thing as a formality (even though it's the same people I have to wait for) and I am going to give EAM a couple more chances before dropping him.

Gage LaMay · 01-26-2007, 10:42 AM

Hmm...

I do not think EAM was too happy to hear he was being dropped. In fact he had no previous knowledge you were dropping him. Don't you think you should consult him about it?

01-21-2007, 08:55 PM	#37
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,393 Thanks: 10 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts Points: 207,599.73 Bank: 152,388.02 Total Points: 359,987.75 Donate	I just wrote a long response, but I accidently pressed a button and erased it all. Let me summarize by saying that, I looked in the archives and, with the current "round table" system, I have had my best year with 8 editions in 2005. I blame the slow 2006 to both the procrastination of Jay, Kyle, and EAM (EAM being the only one not to really give a reason). I am also blaming the HUGE decrease in the quality of the questions I recieved and the fact that it's REALLY HARD to find 10 good question for each edition. Now by playing judge, I shall make a deliberation: I hereby decree that EAM will no longer be a mailbag responder. I also declare that MetalMan be reinstated to take up the slack. Kyle and Jay will now be declared part-time responders and will answer questions at their own pace. As for the Mailbag responder search. It will continue as scheduled, and at least one new full-time responder will be chosen as a result. Case dismissed.

01-20-2007, 12:28 PM	#21
Alph Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: MWAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!ha. Gender: Posts: 1,300 Thanks: 23 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts Points: 14,089.46 Bank: 838.19 Total Points: 14,927.65 Donate	Sorry.

01-20-2007, 06:03 PM	#22
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,393 Thanks: 10 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts Points: 207,599.73 Bank: 152,388.02 Total Points: 359,987.75 Donate	Never take anything I post in this forum seriously

01-20-2007, 06:55 PM	#23
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 464.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,407.46 Donate	But Sean, when's the one I responded to going up, anyway?

01-20-2007, 08:44 PM	#24
Perrin Aybara LLLUUUCCCCCCAAA!!! Ban HotD Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 11,888 Thanks: 191 Thanked 431 Times in 204 Posts Points: 47,257.42 Bank: 263,453.38 Total Points: 310,710.80 Donate	I would guess sometime after never.-jay

01-20-2007, 09:24 PM	#25
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 464.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,407.46 Donate	It's already been never, so when can I expect it?

01-20-2007, 09:49 PM	#26
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,261.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,036.69 Donate	When I did mine, Sean sent it to me two months before he actually put it up, so just be patient. -CSM

01-20-2007, 10:42 PM	#27
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 464.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,407.46 Donate	Well, hot damn. It's been exactly two months Since I sent the email back to the day.

01-20-2007, 11:23 PM	#28
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,261.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,036.69 Donate	Well I have no control over it. Go bug Sean. -CSM

01-20-2007, 11:29 PM	#29
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 464.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,407.46 Donate	Sean's not here.

01-21-2007, 02:03 PM	#31
Chop Chop Master Onion KICK, PUNCH, IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Either UN's bed or Andre's bed. Gender: Posts: 13,965 Thanks: 982 Thanked 1,691 Times in 809 Posts Points: 58.31 Bank: 123,250.75 Total Points: 123,309.06 Donate	I don't see why it should take a month to answer a dozen questions.

01-21-2007, 03:40 PM	#34
Chop Chop Master Onion KICK, PUNCH, IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Either UN's bed or Andre's bed. Gender: Posts: 13,965 Thanks: 982 Thanked 1,691 Times in 809 Posts Points: 58.31 Bank: 123,250.75 Total Points: 123,309.06 Donate	Just give me the mailbag. I'll have the questions answered in an hour.

01-21-2007, 08:11 PM	#36
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,429 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 464.42 Bank: 278,943.04 Total Points: 279,407.46 Donate	lol arguements

01-22-2007, 03:27 PM	#38
Gage LaMay Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,156.20 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,156.20 Donate	Keep me in mind but I'm not going to be the annoying kid to always bug you and ask if I could be a responder. You know how to contact me. PS - Sorry to not drop the case, heh.

01-24-2007, 11:09 PM	#39
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,393 Thanks: 10 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts Points: 207,599.73 Bank: 152,388.02 Total Points: 359,987.75 Donate	Quick update: I'm going to use that two week deadline thing as a formality (even though it's the same people I have to wait for) and I am going to give EAM a couple more chances before dropping him.

01-26-2007, 10:42 AM	#40
Gage LaMay Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,156.20 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,156.20 Donate	Hmm... I do not think EAM was too happy to hear he was being dropped. In fact he had no previous knowledge you were dropping him. Don't you think you should consult him about it?